An Open Letter to All Who Will Read It

sleeplesswillow wrote:I don't know whether to agree with you ior be worried for you. But for the most part I agree with you because for years i have been struggling with prolonged bleeding and that isn't being helped. My symptoms include fatigue, pain in legs, back, lower abdomen, infertility, headaches, and depression. I have been to doctor after doctor and with barely any help. I am still having this problem know. When it was getting treated I was happy, loving, I even started looking for work, and exercising on a regular basis. But when treatment stopped I went into a deep depression and was only treated for psychosis, slapped in a mental institution and forced to take Anti- psychotic meds, but until this very day my REAL problem has been ignored. My family even believes that I tend to act like a Zombie, I am no longer hyper and joyful, I don't have any drive like I used to. Because i am on this crap I believe I am crazy and people around me think it too. Well one but hole did tell his child not to play with me because I was crazy- but that was because I was freaken depressed so screw him. And as a result I am trying to fix my REAL problem so I can prove to them your medication that you gave me just added to my anxiety and depression. I think I am crazy because that is how you treat me with your stupid therapy breathing exercises and making me talk about my worse fears in front of strangers, and when I don't I get looked at like I have lips on my forehead. I get dubbed as antisocial. I wouldn't be antisocial if every time I was sad I was thrown into a psych ward- its freaking embarrassing. Every time I walk down the street I wonder if I am going to bump into a nurse that saw me there, or are they going to tell a person that I know I was there. I wish they did house calls instead. By the way I still feal SAd, Depressed, Angry,- the for human feelings doesn't work or cure nothing- it is supposed to just numb these feelings.

If I were raped or abused I should have every right to feel bad, its only natural to feel that way after trauma. Only time can heal wounds.

I feel the same way too. We get well, we do well. We fall down, we just fall down and deal with it. Ain't no getting up. I'm worried about when or if I'll see the people I once associated with they'll ask how I am now. I'm scared and embarrassed to admit to my own family I'm struggling. I have to throw that on my college instructors and the counselor and mentor I have there.

Honestly, I don't blame you for comparing them to nazi's. There's lots of people who aren't ill who think that way, and I've seen like a dozen psychiatrists over time, and none of them cared much for me. But I don't think it's "nazi germany" or anything like that...but ;/ Good luck with everything! I hope you can live well off the medication.

A so called nurse who decided to enlighten me to the virtues of modern western medicine at my fiances death bed in intensive care ward at a hosptial would disagree with a few assertions here, pertaining to Nazi Germany. I knew already and was quite surprised that the fellow verified most of what I thought about so called modern medicine. This was 7 years ago.

The Doctors I spoke to walked away when I asked a simple request that a certain type of juice was used with all the other chemicals, from German laboratories, by the way, that were used. The standard protein pack that churns away into your loved one is assumed on basic standards of physiology and nothing to do with an individuals present condition at any time.

When I cried as she passed on, with her robotic father asking me, actually demanding, I get off my knees, I kind of realised then and there that most medical health is steered toward population control as touched upon in previous posts.

The Nurse who spoke of how medical technology was derived from Nazi's on Polish children, mostly, I never saw again on those nights at her side in ICU.

The solution is be informed and make healthy choices in your living, and definitely know and oppose anything that demeans those rights. This includes the mind. Your mind is totally open if you don't know how it works.

My Fiance at the time had many complications from a condition called in a few circles the 'Spanish Flu', which took down many people in WWII. By the time I just recounted of course, they had many labels and drugs to experiment with. I just hope my fiance's death helped others live and realise the value of their own life. But I think it was some sort of viability of some scheme or other, personally.

She was very well to do by the way but I only took a few thousand of any such inheritance, whatever. And only because it was offered and my extenuating circumstances could not justify any other means at the time. Her Father mainly decided the preceedings of any legal matters and because I was kind of young at the time and ignorant of the law, which I wasn't informed of conversely by such 'healers', at the time, I could not demand certain things and could not make that particular medical instituion, which is famous worldwide, to comply with my wishes.

I was crippled for years after the incident and trusted no one.

I loved my fiance with all my heart.

She was the only person I met who knew myself better than me. She could even predict what I was going to do at times of trouble. Yet hadn't seen me deal with much trouble because I always protected her from affairs that shouldn't have involved her. 'Affairs' such as family, work, etc..

So friend, and tohers who have posted here, I agree from direct experience. Look at what you take into your bodies and HONESTLY try and find a different way to live if one is so troubled mentally or otherwise.

Medicine has its virtues, but they are usurped for other things these days. If you happen to like television for instance, I saw a report about fish oil tabs being best for ADHD, but in the report they didn't sate what sort of acids (DHA/EFA balance) should be in the tabs for best effect. So, don't live on 'hearsay'. 'Seek and ye shall find', even if eventually.

The euphemism of side effects needs to be dispelled. There is no such thing as a side effect! Any chemical has a number of effects, some may be perceived as desirable, and others deleterious. The term side-effect is a marketing ploy. Secondly, I have been a psych patient my entire adult life, and I am much worse now than I ever was before I was diagnosed and "treated". And the spray and pray approach of psychiatry is to blame. It isn't a matter of try this drug, and if it doesn't work, we'll switch, because most if not all psych drugs are neurotoxins that induce long term iatrogenic harm. And where is the differential diagnosis in psychiatry. It is non existent. You walk into a shrinks office and tell him your symptoms over the course of thirty minutes and walk away with a script. Criticizing psychiatry isn't criticizing the entire medical community, because psychiatry is beyond the realm of empirical, evidence based medicine. The entire canon of of psychiatric research consists of poorly designed, biased and largely corrupt drug trials. There are no good psychiatrists, because the only tool they have is psychotropic medications. And knowledge of medications?!! Please!!! All of their "knowledge" is speculation. The oldest psych drug is lithium, and after thousands of years of use, the mechanism of action has yet to be elucidated. In fact, the etiology of all mental illnesses is still unknown. It doesn't matter how nice they are, how much they care about you and your "health". None of their approaches work, in fact, in every case, they harm. And some of you on here who praise psychiatry for having "saved your life", I wonder how long you've been taking your medications for. Continue to take those meds for a couple of years, and then see how you feel. I'll bet you not too good. And the Nazi comparison is sound, psychiatry has some if it's roots in eugenics. And forced hospitalization is a human rights violation. You are locked up without due process without having committed a crime, and are forcefully medicated, which has no benefit and creates or exacerbates the very mental illness they are trying to "treat". And preventing someone from going down the road of psychiatric poisoning is providing a service to society. We are warning others of the inevitable dangers of the road we have previously travelled. If you have mental issues, by all means, see an internist to rule out physiological causes, and if none are found, seek therapy from a psychologist, but under no circumstances see a psychiatrist or take any psychiatric medications, as your life and mind will more than likely be destroyed in the process.

I too have a message: get yourself some help.

Psychiatrists/psychiatry played a major role in eliminating the "useless", unwanted, in Nazi germany. It is true.

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:Psychiatrists/psychiatry played a major role in eliminating the "useless", unwanted, in Nazi germany. It is true.

So did a particular government. Should we get rid of all governments as a result? Your argument is painfully weak because it moves from the particular to the general without solid grounds for doing so. Some men are rapists. Should we get rid of all men? Seriously, learn how to construct arguments properly.

So did a particular government. Should we get rid of all governments as a result? Your argument is painfully weak because it moves from the particular to the general without solid grounds for doing so. Some men are rapists. Should we get rid of all men? Seriously, learn how to construct arguments properly.

Haha, considering it wasn't a argument. Sorry, person.

Yeah, i'll stay cold on this one. Regardless, I believe this person, all to a T.

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:

So did a particular government. Should we get rid of all governments as a result? Your argument is painfully weak because it moves from the particular to the general without solid grounds for doing so. Some men are rapists. Should we get rid of all men? Seriously, learn how to construct arguments properly.

Haha, considering it wasn't a argument. Sorry, person.

Yeah, i'll stay cold on this one. Regardless, I believe this person, all to a T.

It presents an argument by implication because of its context (this thread).

The person is right.

My argument is as subtle and firm as, "I believe it", because I do.

Conviction.

Take from it what you will.