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I'm being threatened

Postby Raiquil » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:24 pm

I'm being threatened with forced psychiatric care. I mean being sent away from my home to an (institution?)

I don't know if this is the right place to put this but my parents want to send me to some hospital for me to get help to fix my somatization disorder. They say if I do not go they will force me to go someplace "worse". I'm more than a little bit concerned. Right now I'm 16 btw.

Nothing is really wrong with me though... it just seems that way because when they do things like this to "help" me, I usually resist.

I'm not thinking too clearly right now so forgive me if I'm not making sense. I know they have legal rights and $#%^ over me but this is...

They won't let me go to school anymore because I won't go to the learning disorder school they wanted me to, even though I've been told the diagnosis was wrong and I don't have a learning disorder...

If I go to wherever it is my life will get a lot worse... And the way they tell me these things is somewhat odd... they seem so completely assured that what they are doing is right...

That's all I have to say... Any response/advice/anything appreciated.
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Postby Chucky » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:05 pm

Hi,

Considering that you are 16, your parents have the legal right to admit you to a psychiatric hospital. However, I have spent time in one before and they are not bad places at all. Rather, they can be quite beneficial to people. You can always go back to school when you get out of the hospital, right?

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Postby Raiquil » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:00 am

It sort of pains me to hear people take their side.

Let me make this clear- every one of my parents attempt at helping me has made me worse. This, I am quite sure, is no different. I DON'T need to go to a mental hospital and I DO need my parents to stop interfering, and making things much worse.

Hell, I don't even need help... I can live with somatization disorder. But everyone thinks I'm depressed, emotionally unstable, violent, social phobic who is in big trouble. I'm not. If people treated like I was normal (medically I very nearly am), sent me to a normal school, stopped threatening to send me to a mental hospital for no good reason... I'd be fine.

The REAL problem is what people try to do to help... forced psychiatric care. No one will listen to what I say, or will totally misinterpret it.
Every time I talk to my parents they think I am in more need of help...
How do I say I'm fine...? What do I do?
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Postby whero » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:16 am

I would run away if I had the chance. Sorry it's a stupid thing todo, I've already ran away from home once and I ended up in a Psychiatric Facility in another country and then you end up getting deported and not allowed back which sucks if you like that place. I would go to this place your parents are talking about. I'm sure they want to help you.
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Postby aquagurl119 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:22 am

Raiquil wrote:It sort of pains me to hear people take their side.



Heh no offense to those people, but me too! K it's plain and simple that if you naturally refuse help, yer not gonna get any better! People who beneft from psych hospitals are the ones who either want to go there or don't mind. All I know is I never listen to people. I don't care how good your intentions are, if I disagree with ya, I won't do what you say. I'm independent and I do not listen to people period. Now, I don't wanna sound mean, but it's the way I am. I appreciate them trying to help, but I just don't wanna do it any other way but my way. I'm stubborn.

If yer a person like me, getting treatment by somebody else's way aint gonna work, period. You gotta get help your way. Plus, if ya don't want help and don't think anything is wong with you, then seriously, what's the point? As long as you are seriously happy with yourself the way you are then there's no need to get a cure. A disorder is only a disorder when YOU can't handle it! If ya can handle it on your own, yer fine!

I know I shouldn't be sayin this on a psych forum, but I have a lot of negative feelings toward professional therapy. I rarely see any good coming out of it. I think friends and ppl you are close to give you the best therapy. I'm sorry but even tho these people are pros, they have standard ways of doing things and people are individuals. and psych drugs??? Well that's a whole nother story! I've only seen people get more messed up after taking medicine!

You don't need to go to a hospital period! I'm a strong believer in that. Sorry if I offended anyone, but those are my true feelins and I aint gonna change em no matter how much people try to persuade me!
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Postby Chucky » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:24 pm

Wrong, Raiquil, you only don't like it when people take a side that you disagree with. If you came here expecting everyone to agree with you, then you are mistaken - That won't happen.

Aside from the fact that you feel you don't need to go to the hospital, what could have possibly made your parents make this decision?; and please don't say 'nothing', because there is obviously some reason why.

Ultimately, you are going to have to sit-down with your parents and try to have a conversation with them about this without any of you raising your voices. The purpose of the conversation would be to make them see that you don't need to go to a hospital, but you are going to have to make promises to their worries about you.

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Postby Raiquil » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:48 pm

Uh, Chucky, I don't know why you think that I "only don't like it when people take a side I disagree with". If that were true I wouldn't be here...

But then I wasn't very clear... I meant that it specifically pained me to hear someone take a stance identical to my parents. I didn't really mean anything by it.

What would make them want to send me? Ok, imagine a little kid gets, say, sniffles at the age of five. No one really notices, the kid's fine. Now at the age of ten, those sniffle didn't go away- they got a bit worse. This kid now has a few other minor symptoms, like a decrease in energy. The parents are getting worried, so they try many treatment options, all of which fail.

Now the parents remove the kid from school because they think homeschooling is a better environment for the sniffles kid. This kid is very quiet... he doesn't talk much and doesn't seem to miss the company of others. This further concerns the parents... now not only does the kid have sniffles, and a slight lack of energy, they say... now his emotional growth is impared.

(This is long, I know) The parents don't understand though, that the kid is exactly the same as back at the age of ten. No worse. The failed treatments, social isolation, and pissed-off attitude of the kid as the parents continue to execute painful treatment options... make the kid seem much worse off. Sure, the kid still has sniffles, but doesn't feel what the parents are doing is quite right; the kid is not as bad as they think.

After refusing some of the measures taken to help the kid, as many are painful and unnecessary, parents believe kid is "over the line".
Forced hospitalization is imminent... Yeah, that's *sort of* what happened.

Whero, what happened to you sounds awful. But you say they want to help... want to help and *can* help are very different things... I looked at a brochure for the place they want to send me... it has nothing to do with my problem at all... btw do you live close to a border or something?

Aqua, I agree with your view very much but still believe there are people out there who are incapable of making a good decision for themselves... it's a problem that some well-meaning people do not know who they are and often mistake people who do not need such help for people who do.

Also... I talked with my mother... I might be able to convince them of my point of view. I doubt it but maybe. Anyway, thank you for responses everyone.
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Postby whero » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:21 pm

You sound pretty normal to me and yes I do live near a border. You might want to go to this place and get a quick discharge just to prove to your parents your Ok.
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Postby Chucky » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:28 pm

Raiquil,

I'm sorry for the confusion and it is my fault because I was stressed earlier when replying to your message. I am substantially more calm now. You sound fairly normal to me now too and, by the way you have constructed your messages here, it is apparent that you aren't exactly the stupidest person in the world. The feeling I'm getting is that your parents are the type who are so overprotective that it's harmful, but I'm not sure if this is just because that's the way you've portrayed them. I can't believe that they took you out of school though.

whero, if his parents admit him to the hospital, then a quick discharge would be off the cards. When I went in, I was 21 and self-admitted myself. Thus, I was able to leave whenever I wanted to (giving 3 days' notice). This option would not be available to Raiquil though.

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EDIT - Sorry, forgot to mention again that it's imperative you talk to your parents about this so that you can present your case to them that you can cope with life.
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Postby whero » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:51 pm

Chucky wrote:
whero, if his parents admit him to the hospital, then a quick discharge would be off the cards. When I went in, I was 21 and self-admitted myself. Thus, I was able to leave whenever I wanted to (giving 3 days' notice). This option would not be available to Raiquil though.



If he can prove to the Doctor he is capable on his own and his parents allow him to come back home he should be able to be discharged quickly. I saw that happen often when I was in the hospital, and by quick I mean 1-2 weeks which is normal time in the hospital.
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