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Postby Chucky » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:13 am

Yes, you're right. I just thought that you meant he could self-discharge whenever he wanted to (which he couldn't). What would you think of doing this, Raiquil (i.e. - going into hospital, proving you're stable, and then getting a quick discharge)?
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Postby Raiquil » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:38 am

It sounds... risky. It seems like a good thing to do, though, if it comes to that. It's just that... I'd a hard time trusting people to essentially keep me captive for two weeks... I have bad experiences with people who try to work with me like that- they tend to act like I'm right and everything is fine and then say I should do whatever and then it gradually devolves into 'do what we say or else'.

But yeah, you guys are definitely right, going there to prove I'm stable... I'll do that if I can't convince my parents I that am fine.

You said they sound overprotective Chucky... that's what I was thinking too, they do seem that way very much, but only with me (and in regards to my health)- my brothers get treated pretty normally. And it's not like I'm the favorite or anything (thank god).

And what if being in the hospital stresses me to the point of appearing mentally... unwell? That would be a problem, and I do not handle stress well at all. Just a thought.

So, yeah, I'll see how it goes, thanks for talking everyone-
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Postby whero » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:47 am

Raiquil wrote:

And what if being in the hospital stresses me to the point of appearing mentally... unwell? That would be a problem, and I do not handle stress well at all. Just a thought.



In my experience people who seem stressed out by the hospital get out quicker because they are usually the ones being forced to go simply because maybe they were having a bad month or not doing well at work or something. I don't know their personal stories. The ones who enjoy it generally stay longer. I really don't know why on that one, maybe because we are mentally weaker? That is one on probably for an arguement 'What is "normal".

Just show them yourself, have lots of confidence, like at a job interview and prove to the doctor you are fine and don't need any help.

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Postby aquagurl119 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:36 pm

Raiqul, I didn't mean to say that no one should be helped. I mean, yeah some people do need help, but I cringe at professional help. In the cases that you mentioned I think family members and friends should be their therapy. If the person really does need help (unlike you) then certainly of course ya help em - I mean, I wouldn't be on this forum if I wasn't tryin to help all you guys! Just pplz in yer case and mine don't need it cuz it ain't really a problem!

There are a lot a kids who don't have direction in their lives and they're goin to jail all the time. I never meant to say that those kinda pplz shouldn't be helped. I'm pretty good at determining who does and doesn't need it...and what they need it for!

Yer problem isn't yer base thing - that disorder I never heard of, yer problem is that everyone's makin it out to be worse than it is. The more you believe something is bad, the worse it will become. If ya yer grieving the loss of someone and you believe that it will make you become depressed and ruin yer life, then yer problem will become much worse. If you say it's sad but it happens to everyone and I will surely move on soon, then ya will. I aint saying that you are doing this, raiquil, it seems to be that yer parents have fallen into this trap. omg he has a disorder! We need to do something because it's terrible! Not all people with disorders have it bad.
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Postby Raiquil » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:05 pm

Whero, I can't resist saying this... maybe the crazy people like being in an environment designed for crazy people. Just a thought... (by crazy I of course mean mentally unstable)

Aqua, I'm glad you don't think I'm one of "those kids", though I guess if I was it would be absurd to come here to try to prove I'm not... and what you said is basically what I'm trying to tell my parents- maybe they are overreacting. In fact your argument is strikingly similar to what I have said to them.

Uh, anyway, nothing has happened and nothing is on the horizon that I can see... I don't understand how my parents can think not doing anything for this long is acceptable- no school, now no treatments, no anything really... I'd probably go to school out of sheer boredom by now. The tell me they are looking for "the right school for you"...

I don't seem at the moment to be in immediate danger of hospitalization at the moment though. As always, thanks for talking-
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Postby whero » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:03 am

You should be going to school... if your capable goto your school and get into some online courses or get back where you left off. I don't really understand this part.
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Postby Chucky » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:08 pm

Raiquil wrote:Uh, anyway, nothing has happened and nothing is on the horizon that I can see... I don't understand how my parents can think not doing anything for this long is acceptable- no school, now no treatments, no anything really... I'd probably go to school out of sheer boredom by now. The tell me they are looking for "the right school for you"...

So, do you think that it was just like an idle threat from them?; perhaps to make you see what they are capable of doing if you don't 'improve'. I have 'improve' in apostrophes, if you'll notice, because it doesn't sound like you need much improving. Only in their eyes, perhaps, do you need to improve. Have you any siblings? If so, what are their opinions?
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Postby H3lix » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:36 pm

Ok seriously man, ###$ your parents.


At 16 you are of legal age to leave and live on your own. Call child services, say its abuse cuz frankly I would consider it abuse. Im not too sure what state of mind you're really in so this is my opinion from your side of the story.

If they're forcing $#%^ like this on you and you dont need it, get out and get out now. Thats personally what I would do, and what im doing right now that im 18. Except for different reasons.

Best of luck man, take care eh
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Postby Raiquil » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:58 pm

Helix, I don't think I am of legal age yet (18 in US), though I think some places have ages as low as 14 (like Puerto Rico) for being considered an adult. And, I don't think what they are doing can be considered child abuse. Also, sadly, I could not live on my own anyway, as I lack resources. Wish I could.

Whero, I don't understand any more than you why they won't let me get any education, not even online courses as a temporary measure (I have asked). They seem to be looking for some mythical "perfect school", I don't really know, and I can't really talk them out of this.

Chucky, I know pretty certainly that they, at one point, intended to send me to a mental hospital. It seems, however, they are a little... is erratic the word?... about the measures they take to help me. They have recently told me about some other obscure theory they have latched onto... some virus that apparently causes many symptoms similar to mine.

For measure, in the past they have tried heavy metal therapy (pills), IVs (with some sort of antitoxin), electromagnetic therapy (caused major depression), seriously considered sending me to a mental hospital, given me antibiotics for some stomach condition they thought
I had (during many of these I was referred to as a guinea pig, as my mother exhibited many of the same symptoms and wondered if any of this would help her) ... yeah... I'm not too excited about this new thing.

What do my brothers say? I don't know... they probably don't know anything is wrong, except during the rare times I yell obscenities at my parents...

Meh, at least forced hospitalization seems no longer to be an issue (thank god)... ... ... sometimes my house seems like a mental hospital though... with the patients playing "doctor" with their kid.

Eh, ignore the bitter tone-
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Postby Mithotyn » Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:59 am

I had this problem my entire childhood, but it was the state (mainly the school system and social services) and not my parents doing it all.

Ruined my life completely. It's amazing I didn't just kill myself and now I drink myself to death.

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