Psychology/Psychiatry is all a scam

a scam, people need to get over things themselves and come to terms with things themselves

All these doctors are just in it for the money

I tried to find a shrink, but none of them would listen to me because I didnt have the $100 an hour to give them

It is all a scam, people who have the money or have insurance just go to their shrink to let them listen to them babble about what is wrong with them

The Psychiatric industry creates all these illnesses because they are very profitable, the drug industry takes in billions and billions of dollars

It is all a scam, people need to come to terms with things themseves and they need to find peace with themselves, the biggest travesty of all is these psychologists are able to milk the ######6 insurance companies out of $100 an hour and they are able to sleep at nite that way, these psychologists are the biggest ######6 criminals out there, if they really cared about people they would let the market actually work and if people were only able to afford $5-$10 or even $20 a session that would work, but they need $100 an hour? Are they serious?

These doctors just want to fill their appointment book so they can enjoy the finer things in life, most doctors now are like any other capitalist businessmen and are more conerned with making a profit then actually helping people

Dog eat dog world, it is about making a profit, if you have any dignity you will not survive in this world, me I am not going to survive, I can either die a wimp or actually do something about it

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Hi,

I have to say that I completely disagree with you on this. Firstly, it's not a scam at all and many doctors offer genuine help. However, they also have to earn a living at the same time. Also, some people just cannot get through a mental illness without help from an external source. If I didn't get help a few years ago, I'd probably have killed myself by now.

People mature in life by learning from others. Indeed, genuine confidence entails having the belief that you can handle most situations/problems adequately, but with help if necessary.

Don't go it alone if you really can't.

Take care,
Kevin

PS - I do agree with you that consultants fees are very high. I took major issue with this a few years ago but what can we do? You're only going to make yourself worse by fighting it.

Chucky wrote:Hi,

I have to say that I completely disagree with you on this. Firstly, it's not a scam at all and many doctors offer genuine help. However, they also have to earn a living at the same time. Also, some people just cannot get through a mental illness without help from an external source. If I didn't get help a few years, I'd probably have killed myself by now.

People mature in life by learning from others. Indeed, genuine confidence entails having the belief that you can handle most situations/problems adequately, but with help if necessary.

Don't go it alone if you really can't.

Take care,
Kevin.

doctors have to earn a living? I agree, but when it comes to these psychologists who are supposed to be the last link between life and death for people who actually need help, and they wont take people because they cant afford it, where are the ethics in that?

And would you really have killed yourself or are you looking for sympathy?

Like I said people are ###$ up, I know I am ###$ up and wouldnt mind talking to someone, but when it comes to these shrinks who think they deserve $100 an hour for just listening to you babble, it questions my belief in the system

Again, I think people need to come to terms with things themselves, I dont believe in all these "mental Illnesses" people are all the same, some of us have ###$ up lives, some of us want sympathy

doctors have to earn a living? I agree, but when it comes to these psychologists who are supposed to be the last link between life and death for people who actually need help, and they wont take people because they cant afford it, where are the ethics in that?

That's a very interesting way to look at it, and I must admit that I agree with you on that. It's the same for physial illnesses too though: If you don't have money, then you won't be looked after. I have major issues with money and can source many of the problems in the world to it.

Of course, no-one is worth $100 per hour. Compared to what I pay here though, that's actually good value. I used to pay 100 Euro to see my psychiatrist and he'd only keep me for 10 - 15 minutes. 100 Euro equals roughly $150, by the way. I currently pay the same amount to see another doctor.

I wasn't lying about the suicide thing though. I was on an active and determined path to kill myself before seeking help. I had tried it twice before going to a doctor.

Kevin.

Chucky wrote:

doctors have to earn a living? I agree, but when it comes to these psychologists who are supposed to be the last link between life and death for people who actually need help, and they wont take people because they cant afford it, where are the ethics in that?

That's a very interesting way to look at it, and I must admit that I agree with you on that. It's the same for physial illnesses too though: If you don't have money, then you won't be looked after. I have major issues with money and can source many of the problems in the world to it.

Of course, no-one is worth $100 per hour. Compared to what I pay here though, that's actually good value. I used to pay 100 Euro to see my psychiatrist and he'd only keep me for 10 - 15 minutes. 100 Euro equals roughly $150, by the way. I currently pay the same amount to see another doctor.

I wasn't lying about the suicide thing though. I was on an active and determined path to kill myself before seeking help. I had tried it twice before going to a doctor.

Kevin.

DO you have UNiversal health care where you are? Does that go for psychologists if you do have it?

I myself have never paid for treatment, I have only gone to doctors that are covered by OHIP, I don't think it's a scam myself ,as I don't think i'd stil be here if it wasn't for the help of my old pdoc.

But everyone is intitled to their opinon, sorry you had such a bad expierence.

K222: Yes, I have health insurance that covers all of these costs. The only fee I ultimately have to pay myself is a monthly fee for my medication (80 Euro ($125)). However, the actual cost of my medication is very high, roughly 350 Euro ($540). So, for people who are not on insurance here, there is virtually no chance that they could afford all of these costs.

What is the OHIP Butterfly?

I have gotten a great deal of help from self-help groups who just pass the hat. The others understand you because they have all had troubles with mental illness. The people in the groups taught me how to face myself and accept life on life's terms. I probably go to a hundred hours of meetings for the price that many people pay for one hour from a professional. Professionals did not help me much compared to the people in self-help groups like Recovery, Inc.
Jim S

OHIP means: Ontario Health Insurance Plan

Every Ontario resident with his or her primary and permanent home in Ontario is entitled to free access to emergency and preventive medical care under OHIP

See, now that's where I need to be living.