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Postby KLWizard » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:29 pm

Yeah, changing thought is a skill, as any physical skill, everyone has a different pre-disposition and ability to learn.
If you don't know how to strengthen your abs, exercise, and eat right, you will have a flabby belly all of your life.

Don't downplay habits. Habits are the brain's form of keeping in practice. Habits are a bigger deal than anything else you can think of. Bigger than a fatal car crash, bigger than suicide, bigger than murder. Why? Because the 'mental habit' led to it.

Your brain is in the habit of waking you up, making you walk, making your thoughts into specific words, deciding what you will eat, worrying about things, judging appearances, and other things most people hardly think about, like speeding or going through that red light.

Anyways, yeah, the brain is highly plastic, thinking makes it more rigid, thinking a lot makes the thought stay in your mind like steel. Once you decide to think about something else for a while, depending on the (re/de)generation cycle in your brain, the strong thoughts will soften and loosen.

Some people simply have very healthy brains, they either create really strong new thoughts, or their old thoughts soften quickly from disuse. Just as with any skill, do not fool yourself into believeing that it is so simple for everyone. For instance, some people are scrawny non-muscular and more technically minded all of their lives, some are more the muscular manual labor types.
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Postby bigpecker » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:04 pm

I agree it is possible to snap out of it, I use to go into depression for weeks or months at a time.
But I've taught myself to just snap out of it, usually it only takes me a few days maybe a week to get back to normal.
I briefly tried an Anti Depressant called Aurorix a few years back, didn't find it did much so I threw it out.

Generally speaking I think anti depressants are utter #######4 you can get through it with sheer will power.
Some people do require them because they've dug themselves a hole so deep theres no other way out.

I blame society for a lot of mental health problems, giving people ideals on how they should live.
Bombarding them with images of so called normality.
Of course people are going to feel inadequate if they are made to believe they are different.

See through the layers of #######4.
Be who you are (within reason, if being who you are involves physically harming other people well maybe it's time to think about why), Say what you think and ###$ anybody who doesn't like it.

Ask yourself why you are afraid to act or behave in such a manner, is it because you are afraid what people will think of you?
I'd much rather keep company with honest critics over false friends.
I hate how we are conditioned to put on this phony act around other humans no wonder we are all going out of our minds, having to act one way around work mates, another way around friends, another way around family and another way around strangers.

I have a few different personalities, but my friends and family know the real me, they know I'm a bit bonkers and they love it.

end of my rant
Pick up the phone, all again.
Set your alarm, all again.
Switch on the box, all again.
A show about cops, all again.
The bread and the circus, all again.
Again and again, all again.
Come up for air, feels like this life slipping away.
Slipping away our lives, all again.
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Postby jdnewell » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:13 pm

bigpecker wrote:..

I blame society for a lot of mental health problems, giving people ideals on how they should live.
Bombarding them with images of so called normality.
Of course people are going to feel inadequate ...


I agree with that: society -- all 5000 years of it -- is to blame. The Commandments expressly denounces the peddling of imagery for the populace to venerate, yet this is done routinely on 300+ TV channels 24-7.
Thou shalt have no other gods before
Me. Thou shalt not make unto
thee a graven image, nor any manner
of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath,
or that is in the water under the
earth; Thou shalt not bow down unto
them, nor serve them; for I the Lord
thy God am a jealous God ..."


The Mayan calendar was right.
My views on this are well known.
God'll unceremoniously squash our race like a bug tomorrow
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Postby SmallTalkRed » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:39 pm

Remember 6 degrees is all that is needed to turn the whole
world into a different planet for us to live on.

When looking at the Realm and Reality of Quantum Laws,
6 degrees is so minute compared to other things.
A large eruption from a dormant volcano, there are many of these around the world.

For some reason I too think the Mayans have it right on the
calendar.

We find "Near Earth Objects" flying by our planet and we never even seen it coming because it is coming from around Sol our "name" for our star=the sun.
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Postby Chucky » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:26 pm

That's true Red. I mean, I have the feeling that the next big asteroid / comet that hits us will be one that just appears 'out of nowhere' and gives us virtually no time to evacuate. Even with all of our ground- and space-based telescopes, these things are very hard to find.

We are too busy being greedy here to notice what is happening in space anyway. We fight over fuel and such silly things. Oh - yes - some of us also try to put others down by dressing 'better', driving more expensive cars, etc, etc.

I agree with jdnewell and bigpecker about society. It's gone in completely the wrong direction. In fact, one of my favourite personal quotes is: "We are one of a long list of evolutionary sidelines destined for extinction".
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Postby radames » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:34 am

I think that December 2012 has something huge in store for all of us. As you all have said, the Mayans are onto something. Also, if you research Egyptian history, there is a significance in the eye with Isis and Osiris. I am not sure how it fits, but all of this building toward a new age or something.
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Postby jdnewell » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:19 am

It won't be about volcanos or meteors if my assessment is right. No, because that would harm flora and fauna, and we've already wreaked habitat destruction ENOUGH. No, I think this will be about The Almighty gently walking us up to the sad Truth -- that it's simply time for a species that has run amuck to politely step aside and return this Earth to its proper Landlord, and leave His most wondrous creatures in Peace.

It's no joking matter! Left to our devices, we are poised to denude the Earth and turn it into a house of prostitution and gambling (and other terrible evils). They paved Paradise, and put up a Parking Lot!
In reality there's only one true mental illness, and that's choosing Psych as your major.
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Postby Chucky » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:32 pm

Nice way of looking at it jdnewell! :)

Despite our collective arrogance, I suspect that the human race will have no overall bearing on anything that happens in the Universe; or indeed what happens to Earth in the long term. We like to think that we're powerful, but my God we are not.

We are a puny race that has not been alive long, and won't be alive for much more. When we are gone, nothing will remember us and there will eventually be no record of our every existing. That is just the way it should be because we are the most invasive species alive on this planet.

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Postby radames » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:40 pm

As Agent Smith so gravely put it, in the Matrix, "human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague . . ."
It is sad, but we really do exhibit these characteristics.
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Re: generated by the mind

Postby Wise Guy » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:23 am

Serpicor wrote:Mental illness is ultimately generated by the mind which is trying to turn you into some direction. Depression is simply a fabrication of the mind that you can simply snap out of instantly if you want. But some people want to hold onto their mental throes simply because they think that's the way they are supposed to act. If you look back you can see a point in your life where you weren't mentally imbalanced and you can return to that point. I don't see how the mind can be so unstable as to self destruct unless that's what you want to believe.

i agree, the mind can't self destruct but its not about that, people are weak and therefore want to be happy.
To be happy is to not change and to be stupid.
With experience people can change and improve but not on their own will.
###$ feelings they are bad for us.
Everyone has feelings but emotionlessness is another and better way of handling change and to improve.
Emotionelessness is the way to change without experience.
To crush ones filthy happiness and be strong.
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