Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Here is what I got Googling Adam Curtis and his BF Skinner documentary:

Skinner ran experiments with humans to show this. Here is film of one experiment in a mental hospital where patients' behaviour is being modified. Followed by Skinner talking about the political implications.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/ ... ost_1.html


What people are never told about BF Skinner's behavioral modification techniques is that they actually rely (exploit) on the mechanisms of PTSD and structural dissociation. The idea is that if you etch a trauma around a particular state of mind which manifests a targeted behavior and then create a "seal in" component (no resolve-ability) (preventing collapse of the created loop or neurosis) then the person will avoid the behavior on the basis that subconscious pain will start to flood back into waking consciousness leading to avoidance of the targeted behavior.

Reward and punishment is simply a sugar coated term for a profoundly twisted idea that most behaviorists themselves would reject if they knew the real workings of their modus operandi.

And to add, what truly makes it so twisted being that most mental health patients are survivors of the most horrific, depraved abuse well beyond what most are remotely capable of grasping.


Psychiatry's true aim has always been about adding more trauma... not resolving it.

If behaviorists actually add trauma.. that one's new on me. I had a therapist once who told me he dealt in behavior modification for years, but looking back i view the entire experience (all three rounds of sessions) as basically negative along with also feeling a sort of admiration for him, despite being hospitalized several times under his care and actually feeliing compelled to yell at him over the phone. the following session he very calmly said "I learned more about you from that phone call than from our sessions."... i dont know what to make of that.. he called his method "affective-behavioral" but i havent found such a term anywhere in any of the literature.. i wonder to what extent all of this is/was by intention given what you stated here.

jevang9 wrote:If behaviorists actually add trauma.. that one's new on me. I had a therapist once who told me he dealt in behavior modification for years, but looking back i view the entire experience (all three rounds of sessions) as basically negative along with also feeling a sort of admiration for him, despite being hospitalized several times under his care and actually feeliing compelled to yell at him over the phone. the following session he very calmly said "I learned more about you from that phone call than from our sessions."... i dont know what to make of that.. he called his method "affective-behavioral" but i havent found such a term anywhere in any of the literature.. i wonder to what extent all of this is/was by intention given what you stated here.

Thats how operant conditioning is really meant to work. Over the years the terminology has only become more sugar coated, its techniques disguised and its practitioners hiding behind a friendly/respectable veneer. Its only become more subtle, disguised and innocent looking in nature. But fundamentally at its core the ideas are much the same.

For future reference, I mentioned this at the beginning:

I mean in a lawsuit a Canadian psychiatrist openly admitted this- and that psychotropics were just to lower defense mechanisms.

Here is the link and thread to that:


https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/06/do ... th-centre/


anti-psych/topic196641.html


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/na ... e35246519/

The techniques used on the patients between 1966 and 1983 included solitary confinement, as treatment and as punishment; the administration of hallucinogens and delirium-producing drugs, including LSD; and brainwashing methods developed by the CIA, according to Justice Paul Perell of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice.

The psychiatrist's own words:

"If the process were one of eradicating a set of disapproved ideas and washing in different social values, then we would be committing offences as grievous as those involved in setting up the Third Reich – indeed, the more sinister, because of their subtlety." The difference, he wrote, was that the patients had not chosen their values. "On the other hand, if our patients did not choose to deviate from society's norms, but rather were driven to such deviations by internal unresolved conflicts, then we should help them to resolve such conflicts by every means at our disposal, including force, humiliation and deprivation, if necessary."

My personal belief is that BFSkinner was just a tool, a figure placed in academia; and his operant conditioning merely a cover for trauma based mind control techniques practiced by both well meaning professionals and those who were part of CIA mind control experiments.

Or perhaps it may be simpler than that. The beliefs which lead Skinner to behaviorism are also what lead the CIA to use torture as a means of control and interrogation. Once these two prominent entities became both respected and established their ideas were taken to seriously by countless individuals who blindly followed in their lead. Applying what they learned everywhere from schools, to inpatient facilities, prisons, group homes and of course foreign policy.