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Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:43 am

I came across an interesting, yet candid conversation. "Every psychology student knows punishment works"

https://imgur.com/a/EcyhgQR




One is left to wonder how many mental health professionals and psychiatrists put this thinking into practice. Viewing patients and inpatients as rats without verbal reasoning abilities that can only be corrected through inflicting pain or negative emotions. I mean in a lawsuit a Canadian psychiatrist openly admitted this- and that psychotropics were just to lower defense mechanisms.

With that said I will say this dogma may even be behind mass shootings. A large percentage of mass shooters were at some point in time in a behavioral health school and/or psychiatric treatment.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... story.html

Who will ever say these mass shooters traumatized by broken homes and peer bullying misbehave in a cry for help or from mental illness only to be placed in environments where they are treated like animals breading festering rage and feelings of betrayal to the point of lashing out at the same society which literally hurt them in every way possible? Few stop to think what role psychiatric or behavioral services play in these mass shootings. When all the evidence says they should take front and center stage.

Personally I don't believe any of the atrocities in psychiatry over the past 100 years were accidental. When one understands that psychology and psychiatry is built upon the notion people are animals, that treatment is specifically engineered with the intent to destroy or inflict pain, and psychotropics lower self control it becomes blatantly obvious why the world is the way it is.


What do others think?
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Polozker » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:12 pm

Riccola wrote:
Personally I don't believe any of the atrocities in psychiatry over the past 100 years were accidental. When one understands that psychology and psychiatry is built upon the notion people are animals, that treatment is specifically engineered with the intent to destroy or inflict pain, and psychotropics lower self control it becomes blatantly obvious why the world is the way it is.



I would add that all the psychiatric atrocities were not accidental. Pain has always been the cornerstone of psychiatric treatment since the middle ages when psychiatry came into being as a social institution. Basically, psychiatry has just a few other instruments of treatment. Understanding this we can realise the essence of so-called psychiatric drugs. They are nothing more than sophisticated chemical instruments of torture which were invented with the purpose to inflict pain and develop in patients desired attitudes via causing obvious, agonising, and severe punishments.
Moreover, since psychiatrists consider their patients as sub-humans in one way or another, they cannot rely on verbal conviction. They need something more fundamental, something universal for all relatively developed living creatures. This ubiquitous tool of persuasion is definitely pain.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:37 pm

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Suicide watch is an intensive monitoring process used to ensure that a person cannot attempt suicide. Usually the term is used in reference to inmates or patients in a prison, hospital, psychiatric hospital or military base.

Inmates are often placed naked in suicide cells, which are usually bare concrete, often without bedding (to prevent hanging by using bedsheets), and under frequent or continuous observation by guards. Unsanitary conditions are also common since toilet paper, underwear and tampons (all potential means of choking) are restricted. Being exposed without any way of covering oneself, coupled with being under constant observation, can aggravate mental distress, particularly if the inmate has been a victim of sexual abuse. These harsh conditions came to light in 1998 when Elizabeth B., an inmate of Framingham prison in Massachusetts, USA, called a radio talk show to describe how she had been treated while on suicide watch:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_watch

Well the only reason for all that is punishment, unless the person has a loaded gun I would imagine its rather difficult to kill oneself wile being under constant observation.

Unless maybe your Jeffrey Epstein.
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Fits perfectly with my original post. Its not about safety, but punishing an individual for having thoughts that go against social and religious constructs. Who cares why a person might be suicidal, according to psychology if we brutalize them enough the behavior will extinguish and the person will be less likely to think suicide again.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby rhinobeetle » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:24 pm

I want to mention that I recently had reoccurring memories of a conversation I had with a therapist in an IM chat years ago. He claimed that Asperger's don't exist, and are actually psychopaths, and accused me of being a psychopath, was also manipulative, and very disturbing. He said vaccines are not making people Aspergers but psychopaths, since there are no Aspies, only psychos. If these memories are true, he left me deeply disturbed even despite the fact that I did not see him in person. Claims to be a victim of a bad childhood but may be seeking to make things worse for people as an outlet for revenge. He has a youtube channel, and I feel like I did talk to him many years ago. I think he used a lot of the same wicked tactics that many of the abusers we talk about on this forum do, even though he claims to be in the 'alternative' camp of mental health (i.e.; rebelling against the consensus, but he was a very unsettling individual). I felt like I was harassed.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:20 pm

Are you sure he is a therapist? If he actually is, he is doing a profound disservice due to the media needing to attach Asperger's syndrome to mass shootings. I'd hate to see joe public being told by an "expert" the media is somehow right in this regard.


In regards to the same tactics: I've noticed a pattern where psychiatrists/psychologists/therapists will all say the same things word for word and respond in an identical manner for a given subject or topic.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby rhinobeetle » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:10 am

Riccola, please delete my previous post in this thread. I do not want to give any clues in case the person out there is reading this and picks up on it.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby AArgon » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:32 pm

Details of those services were presented to the commission behind closed doors.


The privacy aspect of mental health treatment makes abuse more likely. You can do or say anything to someone and not have to worry about it being known to the public.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:24 pm

AArgon wrote:
Details of those services were presented to the commission behind closed doors.


The privacy aspect of mental health treatment makes abuse more likely. You can do or say anything to someone and not have to worry about it being known to the public.



Yup- and not just privacy- but also the fact no one takes you seriously neither authority or the general public. Remember that psychiatry made sure text book cases of delusions and psychotic disorders included CIA persecution. Then it comes out the CIA did actually experiment on people on US and Canadian soil. The entire profession is designed to discredit human beings on every level possible conceived by wicked men.
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Re: Whats behind all the abuse in Psychiatry?

Postby jevang9 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:03 pm

I think it's quite possibly the height of arrogance on the part of these professionals' to so routinely and without seemingly any second thoughts to readily resort to "behavior modification" i.e. another way of saying breaking people down. there are some decent documentaries that expound on this and the implications behavior modification/conditioning has had on society as a whole e.g. adam curtis documentaries on bf skinner
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