Me Too Movement for victims of psychiatry

RottenFish wrote:What's even worse: Some of these victims are further abused by psychiatrists and their therapists.

I want a MeToo Movement for victims of psychiatry.

That is genius ! Let it start right here. You are its founder.

I believe most victims of psychiatry think they are an anomaly and that everyone else is being helped. This needs to change cause its not true.

The idea that somehow, someday they will "find the right meds" is the great obsession of many victims of psychiatry. The persistence of this belief is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.

The persistence of this belief is especially astonishing in those child drugging forums for parents of "mentally ill" children. There are no success stories. After a poster writes about how the latest round of drugs did nothing but cause awful side effects on their child they go to the next thread and essentially write "psychiatric drugging has done nothing but harm my child but keep trying it on yours don't give up hope."

I really like this idea for a Me Too Movement for victims of psychiatry, it can even have an off shoot #MineToo psychiatry harmed my child or family member too. I need to think about this more.

How can we get this to grow from here ? I think I need to learn to do Twitter.

Social media is key I think. The victims are out there, many to afraid to speak because of the animosity they face when admitting how psychiatry hurt them. The rest need to be awakened. Simple real world stories are most effective. Assuring victims and dissenting voices can speak no matter how crazy their story may sound.

Riccola wrote:Social media is key I think. The victims are out there, many to afraid to speak because of the animosity they face when admitting how psychiatry hurt them. The rest need to be awakened. Simple real world stories are most effective. Assuring victims and dissenting voices can speak no matter how crazy their story may sound.

I understand that fear to speak but I do it anyway at AA meetings.

Inevitably I know I am going to offend someone because the majority of people in attendance went to drug and alcohol treatment centers and in those places most people get a label and put on psychiatric drugs. How ironic the worlds worst drug dealer, psychiatry controls the drug and alcohol treatment industry but anyway.

I start my share with a disclaimer that there might be some people in here that feel that psychiatry is helping them and maybe it is BUT... Then I go on a nice rant about what sacks of crap they are explaining the serotonin scam, did anyone in here get their serotonin tested ? First the drug the hell out of Americas school children with amphetamines NOW they have the solution to addiction ?

At first do no harm unless that 6 year old won't sit still ??

Last meeting I did that 3 people came up to me and said "Me too" those quacks screwed me up drugged me in school ect.

I shared this because we were reading the AA book and they read the part recommending doctors and psychiatry so after the 'disclaimer' I started my share by pointing out how that when the AA big book was written we did not have the several hundred billion dollar a year psychiatric pharmaceutical industrial complex trying to get everyone on pills and if the AA big book was written today it would likely contain a warning about psychiatry instead.

Psychiatry controls the literature, both positive (adding things to books steering people toward psychiatry) and negative (withholding the truth).

What you said is a big part in not speaking up. Psychiatry destroys people, and when the rest of society sees these hurt people, society immediately assumes the egg came first. Its that chicken vs egg debate which deflects wrong doing away from psychiatry. For that I would use opiates as an example in online activism. Countless people were not addicted and functioning only to wind up at the bottom all done by the painkillers themselves.

businesses are by their very nature are corrupt. they care about money, not people. and the medical profession is no different. it's organised from the top down in such a manner that you are made responsible for their mistakes. even this website is complicit in that we as members are not permitted to contradict medical advice. everyone is too scared to stand up to these business interests.

the bottom line here is that whilst we live in a world that prioritises money over people nothing will change. and a good part of the reason for this is that money has broken down society. we don't live in a society anymore. we live in a service industry. no one needs other people if they can buy everything, except the people left behind that those with money don't care about.

on a personal note, having blown out my career for the sake of the greater good, i often find myself feeling distinctly resentful of those that now treat me with utter contempt. they weren't worth of my sacrifice. it's perhaps no great surprise that few choose to do what i did.

only when people truly believe that they can't get ahead by screwing others over will the world actually change for the better. i don't see that happening any time soon. and there may not be much time left.

and i will just add that the way that many people choose to screw others over is to hide behind procedures and processes, as if this absolves them from any responsibility for their actions. we are what we believe, and few of us now believe that we have any responsibility for the welfare of others.

All very well put- so spot on.

shock_the_monkey wrote:
and i will just add that the way that many people choose to screw others over is to hide behind procedures and processes, as if this absolves them from any responsibility for their actions. we are what we believe, and few of us now believe that we have any responsibility for the welfare of others.

Procedures and processes themselves inadvertently dehumanize. They assume the person is an object much like a soiled cloth being run through a wash machine in hopes of getting it clean.

Riccola wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:
and i will just add that the way that many people choose to screw others over is to hide behind procedures and processes, as if this absolves them from any responsibility for their actions. we are what we believe, and few of us now believe that we have any responsibility for the welfare of others.

Procedures and processes themselves inadvertently dehumanize. They assume the person is an object much like a soiled cloth being run through a wash machine in hopes of getting it clean.

... there's undoubtedly an element of this. however, i tend to agree with m. scott peck, who claimed in 'people of the lie' that the underlying reason for evil is actually laziness. we simply don't care enough unless it's us that are suffering.

Oh wow. Thanks Copy_Cat for this thread! I haven't been on the Anti-Psych forum for 4 days, and was happy to see that the idea was taken seriously.

Thanks to everyone who responded. We are all victims of psychiatry. Some of us just don't know it yet. As long as we share our stories about the abuse we've received, we can help others from becoming victims too.

Including the family members of victims is a wonderful idea, Copy_Cat. Because when a family member or friend is on psych drugs, we suffer too. They're no longer the person we once knew, they become someone else.

shock_the_monkey wrote:

Riccola wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:
and i will just add that the way that many people choose to screw others over is to hide behind procedures and processes, as if this absolves them from any responsibility for their actions. we are what we believe, and few of us now believe that we have any responsibility for the welfare of others.

Procedures and processes themselves inadvertently dehumanize. They assume the person is an object much like a soiled cloth being run through a wash machine in hopes of getting it clean.

... there's undoubtedly an element of this. however, i tend to agree with m. scott peck, who claimed in 'people of the lie' that the underlying reason for evil is actually laziness. we simply don't care enough unless it's us that are suffering.

I think thats a big part of it. Ignorance of cause and going straight to a "solution" is another one. Thinking you have all the answers. Thinking to know whats best for others. Being afraid of what you don't understand. Believing people are less then you.