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The truth

Postby AquaGuy » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:20 am

When people go to a psychologist and they get diagnosed with "psychosis", or related mental health conditions, that is nonsense. Psychosis doesn't exist. I've always sensed things that most people cannot sense or understand.

The truth is, people who experience psychosis are actually future evolutions of humanity and when they give people medication they are not "curing" them, they are brainwashing them essentially into believing that what they experience is just in their minds, but the people are actually sensing things that exist all around us, always have done, always will do, that most people cannot (consciously, at least. They do subconsciously, which is why our dreams seem so "weird").

Years ago, millennia ago, everyone understood, what we now call "fiction", to be reality. It's a fact, ask any decent quantum physicist, historian, and psychologist and they will tell you.
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Re: The truth

Postby Infinitude » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:50 am

What do you mean by saying "psychosis doesn't exist"?

It is a real thing. I have experienced it many times, so I know it is real. (Though, you go on to say "people who experience psychosis...", so I guess you are not saying it isn't real, you're just not expressing yourself clearly).

In psychotic states, the mind falls prey to many cognitively formed distortions. A picture of reality emerges wherein many messages are sent to the mind, and these messages are discovered to be false, or largely false, when the psychosis subsides.

However, there is truth to the idea that in psychosis we are experiencing aspects of the world which are in fact real, although given the nature of them, are generally understood in a confused manner.

Lahunken writes in a thread in the anti-psych forum that psychosis involves using more than 10% of one's brain, perhaps you would be interested.

The important thing to note, is that whether psychosis involves legitimate discoveries into the nature of the mind and reality (although I wouldn't say these are "future evolutions", they are just a difference in individuals), the treatment given to these people is incredibly insufficient and damaging.

I have been through the system, the "mental health" system, and there is a severe lack of actual attempts to guide one into mental health - the primary focus is on forcing medications which have a host of side effects which lessen the quality of one's life, and while they do result in a subsiding of psychotic symptoms (along with a subsiding of thought and motivation in general), this is only temporarily, and the long-run effect is that psychosis rates even out to the same as those not treated with the drugs, but functional outcomes are worsened. They are damaging the brain, essentially.

And lastly a note that I am not encouraging any particular line of treatment, or lack thereof, but rather stating the facts as I understand them to be.
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Re: The truth

Postby Tyler » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:28 pm

Hi, just a heads up, this kind of discussion isn't allowed here. Please take all Anti-Psych discussions to the Anti-Psych forum - anti-psych/
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Re: The truth

Postby Tyler » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:54 pm

Upon further discussion with fellow mods, we've decided to unlock the thread and move it to the Anti-Psych forum.
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Re: The truth

Postby Aikenhead » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:07 am

Psychosis does exist, but that doesn't mean you suffer from it. It's possible to be incorrectly diagnosed. It would be wise not to discount the existence of something because you yourself do not suffer from it.
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Re: The truth

Postby epthe » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:53 pm

Sadly, I know psychosis is all too real. I freely admit I am a broken person (but I don't want to be fixed by their current methods). I am mentally ill, but I also know that the meds just made me feel worse and terribly dimmed my personality and caused cognitive problems. The meds were a crutch to get me through a very difficult time when I was a teenager and had my first psychotic break and I had no idea how to cope with it and deal with it. To me, the side effects from the meds were far worse than coping with and dealing with my mental illness on my own. I was first diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and I attended DBT group therapy classes, then they diagnosed me with schizophreniform, then paranoid schizophrenia, then schizoaffective bipolar subtype. I've been through DBT, CBT, ACT, and Mindfulness classes/therapy. I have the coping skills to still function, without the meds. In full disclosure, I do have a prn from a private psychiatrist for Xanax, but rarely ever use it, just in a time of crisis, and then I stop taking it so I don't get addicted to it and so that it still works as a rescue med when I really need it. And I do use high CBD marijuana and mdma.
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