Silenced Psychiatry Role in Holocaust

There is huge amount of literature on Holocaust. Systematic and ruthless murder of millions makes people to ask why it has happened. Many people try to perceive who were the ordinary SS men, the concentration camps guards, cruel barracks supervisors, cold-blooded Auschwitz doctors and others, the pawns of the Nazi murdering state machine, without their obedient participation Holocaust would be impossible.
The only thing I know about them that they were perfectly normal individuals according to the psychiatry standards of that time. I'm absolutely sure about my claim because I cannot imagine the Whermacht, the army of the Nazi Germany, without sophisticated psychiatry service controlling conscription especially to such elite unites as the SS. There is no doubt that medical science was developed in the Nazi Germany and according to their ideology all kinds of mentally disturbed people had to be expelled from the society and exterminated.
I believe only a few people in the world know the nomenclature of mental illnesses used by the WWII Germany doctors in conscription centres, but I'm sure that it contained at least the basic mental disorders like schizophrenia, and probably some kinds of psychopathy.
So such outrageous abnormality of human history was carried out by normal people, according to all psychiatric standards. I feel this is a very disturbing fact psychiatry wants to silence by all costs because it rises the question what mental, or so to speak, human defect is.

The thing about psychiatry is that it perverts even sane individuals because suddenly any person can become non human on the basis of ideology. That in itself distances the perpetrator from the victim removing moral restraint giving justification to the treatment and the end results from it.

Its well known that many do not feel the same level of sadness when an animal dies as apposed to another human, and we often do not feel the same level of pity when tragedy strikes far away as apposed to close by. Our perception of equality or distance relative to our-self and someone else often plays a role in how we feel empathy.


Second, there is the known cult aspect. Psychiatry creates groups of psychiatrists, researchers, ect who all hold similar beliefs. Any fallacies or faulty logic is far less likely to be challenged because people re-enforce each others beliefs. Misinformation repeated over and over becomes the truth (in belief), and then evidence supporting those myths are spotlighted while evidence against them are either ignored or not searched for ('why look, we couldn't find evidence thus far') because said misinformation often dictates it can not be challenged in the first place. Ie, theory X say it can't be anything else but theory X so why challenge that? To me thats as laughable as the logic 'we haven't had a fire in 20 years, so we don't need smoke detectors anymore'


Third psychiatry is often such that the authors will never appear to be at fault. After all, the authors view themselves as the sane, defining what is insane. Someone seeking to use psychiatry as a tool of control will always make sure they do not fit the description, and those writing it will make sure their own behavior is not listed or listed that of a hero.


This book is a good place to start on the subject:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/138 ... ind_Hitler

Riccola wrote:Third psychiatry is often such that the authors will never appear to be at fault. After all, the authors view themselves as the sane, defining what is insane. Someone seeking to use psychiatry as a tool of control will always make sure they do not fit the description, and those writing it will make sure their own behavior is not listed or listed that of a hero.

This book is a good place to start on the subject:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/138 ... ind_Hitler

Riccola, thank you for shearing your ideas on that subject and giving the link to this book. According to the headline it gives unprecedented interpretation of Nazi phenomenon. Just a few people claim that psychiatrists played any significant roles in the times of Hitler's regime. Al least such widely recognised philosophers explaining the nature of Nazism as Erich Fromm and Hannah Arendt never mentioned them.

Riccola wrote:Third psychiatry is often such that the authors will never appear to be at fault. After all, the authors view themselves as the sane, defining what is insane.

I believe that was a great fault of humanity not to question in 1945 why psychiatry, its German branch presenting the sate of art physiologic science of the time, failed to recognise the Nazism as anti-human ideology, why it served so readily to the Nazi regime, why it never proclaimed people committing hideous crimes insane although even from the most primitive and naive perspective they look terribly abnormal, at least unspeakably cruel.
It is remarkable that the victim of Nazism the German Protestant philosopher Karl Jaspers, also a renowned psychiatrist, issued the book "The question of German guilt" but he never issued the book the question of psychiatry guilt...
I think we must understand it clearly according to psychiatry the SS men killing people in the concentration camps are mentally healthy, sane individuals, and people saying that see something others dont, lets say aliens, are insane and unhealthy.
The question is how such institution claiming to be scientific and serving to the end of curing humanity still exists...

Riccola, thank you for shearing your ideas on that subject and giving the link to this book. According to the headline it gives unprecedented interpretation of Nazi phenomenon. Just a few people claim that psychiatrists played any significant roles in the times of Hitler's regime. Al least such widely recognised philosophers explaining the nature of Nazism as Erich Fromm and Hannah Arendt never mentioned them.

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I believe that was a great fault of humanity not to question in 1945 why psychiatry, its German branch presenting the sate of art physiologic science of the time, failed to recognise the Nazism as anti-human ideology, why it served so readily to the Nazi regime, why it never proclaimed people committing hideous crimes insane although even from the most primitive and naive perspective they look terribly abnormal, at least unspeakably cruel.

Or why humanity did not question psychiatric hospitals brutalizing patients since the 1990s and earlier. Even prior to 1945 there were things hideously wrong with psychiatry- the almost bully and retaliatory like nature psychiatry:

http://numberonelondon.net/2017/05/trea ... n-therapy/

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-chjiZPtSEFA/T ... ir-SPL.jpg




To me psychiatry was simply continuing its status quo when it was adopted by the nazi regime and latter failing to recognize them as insane.

It is remarkable that the victim of Nazism the German Protestant philosopher Karl Jaspers, also a renowned psychiatrist, issued the book "The question of German guilt" but he never issued the book the question of psychiatry guilt...
I think we must understand it clearly according to psychiatry the SS men killing people in the concentration camps are mentally healthy, sane individuals, and people saying that see something others dont, lets say aliens, are insane and unhealthy.
The question is how such institution claiming to be scientific and serving to the end of curing humanity still exists...

Both of these IMO are questions that everyone should be asking.

Here is another link on the subject in regards to eugenics:


http://www.cchr.org/videos/psychiatry-a ... caust.html

I believe that psychiatry perfectly fits totalitarian, ruthless regimes for which tormenting people is one of their primary goals. This is just another way to torture and humiliate human beings; not in prisons, but in hospital wards.
But as I've already mentioned on that forum I was shocked that in the US and other democratic societies psychiatry not only exists it flourishes medicating, and labelling millions.
For me it was a very sad news. It seems that humanity itself is caught in a vicious circle of mutual hatred and despicable cruelty. However there is still the option to enhance. The world has become significantly better in the recent 50 years; so we still have a chance to wipe out the legacy of cruel past.