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Rx Meds, Interactions, Side Effects, and Misdiagnosis

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Rx Meds, Interactions, Side Effects, and Misdiagnosis

Postby LovelyLeoBrokenHeart » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:41 am

I am so lost anymore when it comes to the helpfulness of psychiatry and the facilitators of said practices. Here are a few of my most recent experiences w/ psyche health in the last year, (since I have been court mandated to pscyhe care).

I currently do what is called EMDR therapy w/ a great lady who holds a masters in psychology. She is employed by a well known facility in my area. So being that she is an employee of this facility, her schedule is dictated by her employer. Well, I am beginning to think that EMDR is not a type of therapy that you spend 30-45 minutes doing one day, and don't see your therapist again for another 1 to 4 weeks. (I am partially to blame, since my schedule has been hectic over the last few months). But she has had to cancel sessions, because her employer needed her to attend a meeting. Meanwhile, I am stuck with the relived traumatic event, that we were rushing through at our last session, fresh in my head. I don't care where I lock it away, it's effects are still prevalent to my life.

So I carry this trauma into my daily life, and it causes great problems in my relationship with my husband. We both go to this facility. Our counselors are great, don't get me wrong. They are limited to what their superiors directives are though. For an example, when my counseling started about 9 months ago, my counselor believed me to have BiPolar 2 (from what I explained to her about my emotional roller coaster).

I did my psyche eval with a different person, at the same facility, who never met me before. So I spend an hour and a half with a total stranger that holds a N.P. is psychology, and this person decides that I need risperdal, depokote, and Trazadone (which I actually manipulated Trazodone into my medication list). I like to take it when I'm depressed to help me sleep. You see, when I'm depressed, I don't sleep well.

Well a couple months into the medication I was having extreme moments of mania (they lasted anywhere from a few hours to 2-3 days) and my usual paranoia was extremely heightened. Come to find out I was also going into to black outs and having absurd fits of rage. Apparently I stabbed my husband with my car keys one night, and a knife another night. There was also a knife hole in the bedroom door where he got the door closed before I got the kitchen knife in his leg. I guess I would scream at him calling him a pedophile, well HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE!!.

However, men in my family (who I had been seeing more of at that time) ARE. Was I having a psyche med induced psychosis and harming my husband for an offense committed against me as a child. An event that we were going over in my EMDR??

I literally stabbed this man. =(

I love this man, why would I stab him??

Anyways, I tell my counselor that I need to talk to the lady that issued me that medication cocktail. I talked to her and told her I want to go off the meds, because I was lactating, extremely paranoid, and stabbing people without any recollection of it.

She decides that we just need to up the dose on the depokote and change the risperdal for something else. When I refused that option, she decided that their facility is not equipped to handle someone like me---SMI. Now.... I am SMI (which I'm sure there is truth too) however, why am I now SMI and not bipolar 2 when I disagree with a complete strangers decision about what is good for me and my mental and emotional welfare?

So I get a new eval done at a different facility. The person at this facility took the time to listen to and address my concerns before we started the eval. She also (somehow) found a way to have me liking here and trusting her by the end of our meeting that day. (THAT NEVER HAPPENS) It takes me a while to warm up to someone. Her diagnosis -- was the same as what I was given when I was 21 years old, I am 37 years old now. Borderline Personality Disorder. So, I educated myself on BPD. I handed my husband a BPD checklist (if you will), asked him to read it and then asked him who or what does he think of when he reads that. Of course his reply was -- YOU--meaning ME 100%, that list is ME.

Could you imagine, if I hadn't of spoke up for myself with the 1st evaluator where I would be today?

So my major issue is this, my husband who also gets care at the 1st facility is on several rx's that they prescribed to him for being EXTREME Bipolar. What ?? Is there even such a thing?? Isn't being Bipolar EXTREME enough?? They have him on Lithium, Zoloft, Seroquel, Hydroxzine Paomate (something like that for ER anxiety fits). And he is not getting better. He becomes like a robot, no more mania's followed by rage, then followed by depression..But no more joy either, his little favorite joys do nothing for him. He stopped the meds on his own for a while, but that was disastrous. So he is back on them.

However, about a month into being consistent on this medication cocktail, he has become very depressed. Stays in bed for days, and if I get him up starts raging and smashing up the house and even me. His personality characters are more magnified as well. I told my counselor and his about his 3 very distinct, different personality characters months ago. They even have their own names. Well one of his characters can't stand me, and hurt me physically (again) a few weeks ago.

I told my counselor about the incident, and she got him an ER appointment to do a SMI referral eval with his counselor. And his counselor sends some paperwork work to somewhere to have him classified as SMI. Guess what?? He was denied!!! Can you freaking believe that??? I am classified right away, because I refused meds, but my husband gets denied, because "there was not enough supporting evidence" of him being SMI. They took 3 days to gather "their evidence". Such BS. He has been on meds since he was 11 years old. In and out of institutions for assault and substance abuse. ARE THEY SERIOUS????



Sorry about the book... I just feel better getting this off my mind. I am really at a lose as to what to do.
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Re: Rx Meds, Interactions, Side Effects, and Misdiagnosis

Postby epthe » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:42 pm

Let me tell you from my experience of being labelled s.m.i., you don't want it. They will force you into treatment, even if you no longer want it. Your husband should keep that in mind and think about it carefully.

About the diagnosis, there is no physical medical test for mental illness, it's all subjective, based solely on what you say to them, and what others say about you, and the bias of each evaluator. Their diagnosis means really very little because it is so subjective, but it can ruin your life. Think of how different it is for a medical doctor to make a diagnosis for diabetes based upon blood tests. There's nothing close to that for mental illness, so they are wrong a lot of times.

Also, be very careful what you say to them. Anything you tell them can and will be used against you. They're not cops, but they still have the power to take away your freedom to come and go as you please, and to force you take medications with very dangerous side effects like AKATHISIA and TARDIVE DYSKINESIA and DIABETES. And if you stopped taking them without tapering down off them, they have horrible withdrawal symptoms that can be life threatening. Do yourself a favor and do an internet search for all the side effects of the drugs you're on and the withdrawal sympoms from them as well.

Also, psych drugs have been known to actually cause rage and violent behavior.
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Re: Rx Meds, Interactions, Side Effects, and Misdiagnosis

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:46 pm

LovelyLeoBrokenHeart wrote:Sorry about the book... I just feel better getting this off my mind. I am really at a lose as to what to do.



Dr. Peter Breggin’s concept of medication spellbinding provides insights into why so many people take psychiatric drugs when the drugs are doing more harm than good. Psychiatric drugs, and all other drugs that affect the mind, spellbind the individual by masking their adverse mental effects from the individual taking the drugs. If the person experiences a mental side effect, such as anger or sadness, he or she is likely to attribute it to something other than drug, perhaps blaming it on a loved one or on their own “mental illness.” Often people taking psychiatric drugs claim to feel better than ever when in reality their mental life and behavior is impaired. In the extreme, medication spellbinding leads otherwise well-functioning and ethical individuals to commit criminal acts, violence or suicide.

www.google.com/search?q=medication+spellbinding

My problem was I forgot what I was like before taking psychiatric drugs and willingly took more to try and correct the damage done by taking more.

I am not going to say just quitting all drugs is the awnser but when they start ramping up these cocktails is usually when things go bad.

insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result. but it does not stop the psychia-quacks from continuing to keep trying the massive drug cocktails no matter how many bad results.

LovelyLeoBrokenHeart wrote:and Trazadone (which I actually manipulated Trazodone into my medication list). I like to take it when I'm depressed to help me sleep. You see, when I'm depressed, I don't sleep well.


I think low dose seroquel is best for sleep and makes a good rescue drug if things get sh-itty. I don't believe in that take every day plan the pharmaceutical psychiatric industry likes to make billions in profit. As needed is where it is at.

You found this forum. 'Anti psychiatry' that was the thing that lead to my recovery from the psychiatry nightmare. The truth will set you free.
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Re: Rx Meds, Interactions, Side Effects, and Misdiagnosis

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:02 pm

LovelyLeoBrokenHeart wrote:And he is not getting better. He becomes like a robot, no more mania's followed by rage, then followed by depression..But no more joy either, his little favorite joys do nothing for him. He stopped the meds on his own for a while, but that was disastrous. So he is back on them.


his little favorite joys do nothing for him - The name of that is anhedonia

Anhedonia is the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. exercise, hobbies, singing, sexual activities or social interactions. While earlier definitions of anhedonia emphasized pleasurable experience, more recent models have highlighted the need to consider different aspects of enjoyable behavior, such as motivation or desire to engage in activities (motivational anhedonia), as compared to the level of enjoyment of the activity itself ("consummatory anhedonia")

Anhedonia is no joke, drugs did that to me, you just can't feel enthusiasm about anything. Its evil.

He stopped the meds on his own for a while, but that was disastrous.

I stopped too and it was a withdrawal nightmare disaster. ER visits al that. I ended up goin on benzos for the withdrawals from the "non addictive" zombify your ass crap, long story but I made it back from the psychiatry nightmare.

“All psychiatric drugs have the potential to cause withdrawal reactions, including the antidepressants, stimulants, tranquilizers, antipsychotic drugs and ‘mood stabilizers’ such lithium. When the individual’s condition grows markedly worse within days or weeks of stopping the psychiatric drug, this is almost always due to a withdrawal reaction. However, misinformed doctors and misled parents, teachers and patients think that this is evidence that the individual ‘needs’ the drug even more, when in fact he or she needs time to recover from withdrawal effects. https://breggin.com/brain-disabling-tre ... sychiatry/ "



Problems that arise upon quitting medications are often medication withdrawal effects, and can be minimized by tapering down slowly. Also, if you have been relying on medications to solve emotional problems, you may need to learn effective alternative solutions to these problems in order to accomplish a successful withdrawal.
It's your choice. It is important not to stop taking medication before you are ready. But for at least some people, getting off medication, even against a prescriber's advice, may be the best solution. For example, long term studies show high rates of recovery among people diagnosed with "schizophrenia" who have gotten off medication successfully. Getting off medication can mean avoiding long term health risks (including risks of early death) associated with many of the medications. http://www.mindfreedom.org/truth/truth-flyer-text

Sorry about all the paste but I am a "copy cat" it is easier to find and paste what I want to say then to type it all out.

But anyway it takes work to come back from the massive drug cocktails and if you have been relying on medications to solve emotional problems, you may need to learn effective alternative solutions to these problems in order to accomplish a successful withdrawal.

If husband has problems with anger rage but doesn't like psych drugs to control it he better learn to do it himself. None of this "I am bipolar" and can't help it bull $#%^.

And like I said earlier take rescue meds as needed not this zombie all day long bull-shyt the industry likes to make billions on pills.
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Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:28 pm

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