suspended by *title edit* and I'm being conspiratory.

Years ago, some random dude posted on **mod edit**, that he is taking one Antipsychotic (I suppose Abilify) and one Antidepressant (celexa or something), and he doesn't like the Abilify and wants to stop taking it and just take the Antidepressant.
I replied something like this: It's a bad idea, because 1. you are psychotic 2. Antidepressants can worsed (or cause) psychosis on themselves 3. therefore it's a bad Idea to go off Antipsychotics and taking a strong antidepressant while psychosis is actually the problem, as antidepressants worsen or cause psychosis in rare cases.
For this, I was suspended. Because in their opinion my claims were not backed by research and generally crap. The fact that 3 psychiatrists have told me so, that the exact thing happend to me and I know 2 people who actually got psychotic on antidepressants didn't matter much.
So my suspicion is that they are kind of too much pro medication, or maybe **mod edit** is run by pfitzer or some other crappy pharma company, and they whitewash side effects and suspend people who argue.
BTW: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11235925
What do you think?

The name of the forum was removed by the mods. I suppose this post by me doesn't make any sense anymore without the name of that forum. I really like you to add it back because like this my post is basically useless.

Omid,

"I replied something like this: It's a bad idea, because 1. you are psychotic 2. Antidepressants can worsed (or cause) psychosis on themselves 3. therefore it's a bad Idea to go off Antipsychotics and taking a strong antidepressant while psychosis is actually the problem, as antidepressants worsen or cause psychosis in rare cases."

It is possibly because you are diagnosing someone without any professional expertise. Granted that you may not agree with some professional psychological experts' prescriptions or pharma companies' drugs and that you have had bad experiences with such drugs, it still doesn't make you the expert. Let others give you the benefit of the doubt, by just relating your experience versus describing pharma industry, etc, as a conspiracy.

Your experience of a drug carries more weight than any conspiracy theory you propose.

Every individual responds to drugs in different ways, and no one person is the same as you.

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Omid wrote:The name of the forum was removed by the mods. I suppose this post by me doesn't make any sense anymore without the name of that forum. I really like you to add it back because like this my post is basically useless.

I could guess what forum that was.

Send me a private message with name maybe I will sign up and screw with them.

You wrote

"It's a bad idea, because 1. you are psychotic 2. Antidepressants can worsed (or cause) psychosis on themselves 3. therefore it's a bad Idea to go off Antipsychotics and taking a strong antidepressant while psychosis is actually the problem, as antidepressants worsen or cause psychosis in rare cases."

Just play games by adding disclamer words and say the exact same thing.

That could be a really a bad idea, because 1. you may be psychotic 2. I read online that Antidepressants can worsed (or cause) psychosis on themselves 3. I think that might be a bad Idea to go off Antipsychotics and taking a strong antidepressant while psychosis is actually the problem, as I have read so many times that antidepressants worsen or cause psychosis in rare cases.

Others in the forum may have backed up what you said if you did it that way.

Also

"When you deprogram people, you force them to think...But keep them off balance and this gets them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they've been programmed to believe. They realize that they've been duped and they come out of it. Their minds start working again."


This forum is a front for the pharmaceutical industry they run the whole thing !!

Vs

Is this forum run by the pharmaceutical industry ? It sure seems like it when they won't allow any discussion that goes against the official narrative. Maybe they are worried if we discuss these things profits from selling pills will go down.

Get them to start questioning.

spell it backwards , something I can google
and I will let you know if it works

You guys are more than welcome to PM each other, but just as a reminder we do not discuses moderator decisions out in the open forum. If you have any concerns regrading a moderator's decisions, please private message that moderator with your concern.


As for the name of the other forum being removed, this is not to sensor, but rather to keep this forum on topic. We don't want any public rivalry breaking out between forums, possibly identifying members or specific incidents from other forums, nor do we want AP turning into a review board or complaint section for other websites.


However in other regards you are welcome to discuss this topic further.

I think we could kick the other forums asses and steal their members and I have done it before, old timers here remember the thread, but if you guys are not in the mood for a troll war I guess we can skip it.


I got 2 forums I would love to take out, One of them as soon as you go against the official narrative at all they pounce, they sell ads to hospital and treatment centers on the site, start talking about inpatient abuse or forced drugging they call it an "agenda" I hate that website, its real hate, I should just put aside $1000 and take my chances with "hire a hacker" and gamble to see if I get $1000 worth of laughs if they can do some extreme computer geekery to carpet bomb that website with anti psychiatry !! 500 screen names from 500 different IPs boom boom boom non stop never stopping anti psych truth raining down on them faster then they can press the delete button.

Make it like the hyrda The Lernaean Hydra the Hydra of Lerna. Its lair was the lake of Lerna in the Argolid, which was also the site of the myth of the Danaids. Lerna was an entrance to the Underworld.

Copy that monster's capacity to regenerate lost heads in the computer geekery hacker program, for each screen name and post they delete 2 more grow back just like the Hydra monster !! As they hit the delete and ban button more and more and more more more anti psychiatry rains down on them and never ever stops until complete defeat !!!!

Take THAT !!!

the reason people in mental health forums / maybe all forums - argue ;
is because that is what the shrinks wants . they are experts in manipulation and mind control .
they have unquestioned power . anyone who tries to complain is labeled paranoid .

divided and conquered , and $hrink$ are laughing at all the victims they blank too death.

I do sometimes wonder if all mental health forums are just continuations of mk ultra stuff. I genuinely cant figure out any other reason for some things.

sabotage3 wrote:I do sometimes wonder if all mental health forums are just continuations of mk ultra stuff. I genuinely cant figure out any other reason for some things.

Not saying you are wrong, but I'd argue that its just a continuation of the main stream thinking. Most forums are full of ordinary people, and those who have been in- or a still being treated by psychiatry, hold the common thinking that goes along with it.

One thing which absolutely made me worse by far- and angered me by far- was when other forums silenced or punished me for speaking about how psychiatry harmed me or failed to help me. I mean you had people who could freely speak about abuse, violent thoughts, pedophilia, all types of delusions, elaborate conspiracies against them as a person, hallucinations, ect in that it was an attribute to the illness they were suffering from. And there is certainly nothing wrong with that in terms of peer support and gaining a deeper understanding of symptoms people were suffering from- but as soon as I brought up misdiagnosis in general, human rights or the short falls of psychiatry I was met with both extraordinary hostility and animosity from both members and moderators. When I brought up the known and listed side effects of medications to those who wanted to know them I was accused telling others not to take prescribed medication- simply because someone else beside the OP might read the thread. When I brought up pharmaceutical influence in psychiatry I was accused of trolling. When I brought up the lack of evidence to support a chemical imbalance I was accused of deliberately triggering others. I was accused of being unsympathetic. I had members with psychotic diagnosis flat out tell me I was insane. The list went on and on. And in general it was like walking on egg shells.


There was absolutely nothing healthy about it for me and I felt as the only possible place that could possibly understand me was turning their back on me. I mean society doesn't understand it, so you'd think a mental health care forum would, only to have that hit you back even harder. To be frank it felt like being a sexual assault victim and then getting banned for expressing the trauma said sexual assault gave you.

But here is the thing. For the sake of the argument, lets say AP people are delusional as claimed by others. If so, then why would a forum where delusions are expected to be expressed and discussed, ban people for holding AP views if they indeed are just delusions? From everything that I have seen all it does is fuel the long standing notion of conspiracy.