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Mind-Altering Psych Drugs for a 7-Year-Old

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Mind-Altering Psych Drugs for a 7-Year-Old

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:43 am

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mind-altering-psych-drugs-year/story?id=15066848


If any of you anti psych activists need ammunition, that is a good link to throw at them.

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Re: Mind-Altering Psych Drugs for a 7-Year-Old

Postby artemys » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:14 am

I understand that many people have had adverse effects with psychiatric treatment, and have developed trauma surrounding that. So have I, and people around me. My boyfriend, in particular, suffered significantly due to being medicated as a young child. I'm sensitive to the subject (though I don't agree with the antipsych perspective). But this article is trash.

First-off, it uses the term "mind-altering drugs" as a scare tactic. This is not journalism, this is furor-incitement. If a person's mind -- even a child's -- is not functioning properly (i.e., is causing unnecessary suffering), then isn't altering their mind exactly what we want to do?

Foster children are medicated with psychotropic drugs up to 13 times more than other kids. Michael Piraino, the chief executive of the National CASA Association, a foster children's advocacy group, said that, as a population, foster children tend to be more troubled than their peers.

Of course foster children are medicated more often than other kids -- their lives are less stable, leading to more trauma, leading to higher incidence of mental illness in the first place.

Delaware Sen. Tom Carper held a congressional hearing Thursday, demanding changes in the foster care system.

"In my judgment, no children in this country should be taking at the same time five different kinds of psychotropic drugs," he said. "None."

When it comes to what drugs a child should be taking, the judgment of a senator is utterly irrelevant -- the judgment of the child's doctor is what matters. I know a young man on a regimen of antipsychotics, SSRIs, benzos and anticonvulsants to manage the side effects of the other drugs. It sucks. But if the medication improves his quality of life more than it detracts from it, then it is a net positive.

In short, this article is an indictment of bad doctors. The mere fact that some psychs suck at their job does not invalidate the entire field of psychiatry. Some people are going to get hurt by those bad doctors -- the treatment for that is not dismissing the field, but finding good doctors instead. I'm glad this family seems to have found a better doctor. Though a lot of people confuse "good doctor" with "says exactly what I want them to say", which is probably the single most useless possible trait in any mental health professional due to the nature of the job.

Given how terrible an article this is, it's probably not good ammo for anti-psychers.
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Re: Mind-Altering Psych Drugs for a 7-Year-Old

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:08 am

artemys wrote:But this article is trash.


Its a video. One you did not watch.

artemys wrote:Of course foster children are medicated more often than other kids -- their lives are less stable, leading to more trauma, leading to higher incidence of mental illness in the first place.


I thought it was a "brain disease" and "chemical imbalance" bad DNA... like psychiatry claims.

artemys wrote:bad doctors -- the treatment for that is not dismissing the field, but finding good doctors instead.


You mean like good cops and bad cops ?

You know where the bad cop with anger issues is beating someone brains out and the "good" cops just stand around and watch. Then more 'good' cops help cover it up back at the station.

If there were good doctors in any numbers they would have stamped out the bad ones by now.

Why Doctors Stay Mum About Mistakes Their Colleagues Make https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt5FLzq4wA8 https://www.propublica.org/article/why- ... agues-make

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Re: Mind-Altering Psych Drugs for a 7-Year-Old

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:29 am

artemys wrote:First-off, it uses the term "mind-altering drugs" as a scare tactic. This is not journalism, this is furor-incitement. If a person's mind -- even a child's -- is not functioning properly (i.e., is causing unnecessary suffering), then isn't altering their mind exactly what we want to do?


When it comes to people 'suffering' its the lazy ass teachers who don't want energetic children in their boring ass class , it is the teacher that is 'suffering' cause they would rather be in the breakroom bitching like the unions train them to do then deal with the kids so they send them off to be labelled and drugged.

In the United States, at least 9 percent of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5 percent. How has the epidemic of ADHD—firmly established in the U.S.—almost completely passed over children in France?

Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD
French children don't need medications to control their behavior.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/su ... -have-adhd


French children don't need mind altering drugs to control their behavior !
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