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Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

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Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby FreakOfTheDemonDoll » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:22 pm

I don't know how people will feel about this but when it comes to the rising of diagnoses the researchers reasonings are "a change in diagnosis."
I don't 100% believe that.
I actually think there are a lot of people who do legit have ADHD or whatever.
I mean, I think it's half and half.
Half of people do indeed have said disorder and the other half don't because doctors over look for things these days.
I have met people online and real life and have seen for myself that a lot and I mean a lot of people claiming they have, or been diagnosed with disorders like ADHD, Asperger's, Borderline PD, etc and I don't get why.
I understand why Depression & Anxiety rates would go up, but why certain disorders like these for example?
Like I said, if it is a change in diagnosis or whatever, that makes sense, but if more people in this world legitimately have these disorders, then what on Earth is going on?
People will get offended, but I have a conspiracy as to why people are getting mental disorders but I said too much and people already hate me.
I live in a "sick" world and I just want everything and everyone to be clean because I want a picture perfect life because not even I am clean.
I'm not saying people with mental issues are "wrong" but rather I want a perfect life of people getting along with no issues.
So it's a good thing.
I'm sorry if I always come off as "offensive", I have no therapist so I vent online, if I am an evil dictator for all of my "controversial" opinions then it won't matter in the end.
I'm sorry guys, I just don't know why mental illness or disorders in general rates are going up.
Something is going on and that's just how I think.
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Re: Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby Alucard » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:42 am

I see it this way, from what I've experienced myself, in research, and working in respite houses.

When a child gets diagnosed at, say, age nine with ADHD or any disorder at all, the likelihood of them encompassing the actual characteristics of the disorder sky rockets. What I mean is the diagnosis influences how they behave as well. So as more and more children have trouble coping in classrooms that take away recesses and play times, and as more and more teenagers and adults have trouble coping with the stresses of life and their own emotions (which this world is just drenched in now), more and more disorders get diagnosed. I feel people are getting diagnosed younger and younger.

Take that one study for example where they took two groups of children, ages 8-19 or whatever. All of them had experiences of hallucinations and hearing voices. They had controls too, I forget what they were. They took half and put them in psychiatric care and got them diagnosed. They took the other half and helped them deal with their emotions, their voices, and life. Four years later, those who were diagnosed were significantly worse. Those who were not--well, the majority had their voices and experiences disappear completely--or at least to a point they could manage pretty damn well compared to the other group.

I'm not invalidating anyone's experiences and I'm certainly not saying mental health issues don't exist. I hear voices, I have hallucinations, I have a lot of experiences. I think what's going on is that people with these experiences are struggling in coping more so than ever now, and suddenly they feel something is wrong with them for this. So they get diagnosed. And then that gets reported and then the media blows it up and researchers take bribes and suddenly everyone is scared their cat is going to give their children schizophrenia.

That's the way of the world.

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Re: Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby Contemplation » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:08 am

the DSM makes it possible to "diagnose" all human behaviour.

And sell you all the nice meds. Hue hue. It's extremely funny ; )
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Re: Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby Snaga » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:02 pm

Given the direction this may be headed we've moved it to Anti-Psych. That being said, human nature being what it is, sometimes it may be hard to deescalate something once it's become a trend. Or abolish something when it's no longer needed, instead new things will appear to take its place. Especially if people need a reason to be in the line of work they are. People must justify their existence, after all. And things snowball.
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Re: Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby Contemplation » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:01 pm

I wasn't making too much sense there. Just the usual paranoia, not very constructive. Medication can prove helpful, one has to look at the individual case, as always.

The reported rates are definitely going up because the dark figure/estimated number of unreported cases is decreasing as more people begin therapy and/or society's stigma is dissolved.

To sum up my theory: The ratio of reported vs unreported issues is most likely tilting towards the reported side while the ratio of mentally healthy people / those having issues might be more or less stable.

If so, we could safely talk about progress.
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Re: Why are the rates for mental issues going up?

Postby MsSchadenfreude » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:57 am

Firstly, I like your Joy Division pic. I'm new here and can't figure out how to get a small enough pic...but that's okay I'm fine with generic.

Your post isn't offensive, in my opinion. You're simply philosophizing. Nothing wrong with that!

I like a certain PodCast called ScienceVs. You might enjoy this one: https://soundcloud.com/science-vs/antidepressants

There is a very particular point in some discussion that your post reminded me of...it's something to the effect of; the inconsistent way improvement on medication is measured, the severity of depression many years ago that indicated prescribed medication, vs. the symptoms of today that are liberally prescribed medication is markedly different. Also, there is a lot of discussion about placebo effect.
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