Psychiatrist wants to take mother off of all psychotropics

My mother has been diagnosed with Bipolar Type II for 5 years by her treating psychiatrist. However, recently, she has been falling all over the place, and had to see a neurologist. The neurologist said that she did not have Parkinson’s, but had Parkinsonism. She takes Geodon, Lamictal, and Klonopin for her Bipolar Disorder. She has for many years. The neurologist said that my mother needed to get off the Geodon immediately after tapering down enough to nothing. He said Lamictal and Klonopin were fine to take.

However, my mother’s psychiatrist it trying to take away all her psychiatric medications…Lamictal and Klonopin. She downgraded my mom from 4mg of Klonopin to 3mg with a plan to completely ween herself off of it. She plans to do the same with Lamctal. But if she does either, my mom will go into the hospital for panic attacks or attempting suicide or suicidal idealizations if stopping Lamictal. What my mother did was schedule another appointment with another psychiatrist in November so her meds would not be taken away.

She also scheduled an appointment with her regular psychiatrist at a date after the new psychiatrist so that her regular psychiatrist does not get suspicious of anything and thinks my mom is still her patient. My mom is down to 60mg of Geodon. Can her treating psychiatrist, two months earlier she has an appointment scheduled with her, cancel all her refills of all her psychotropic medications until then? My mom has 4 refills of 4mg of Klonopin when she should be taking 3mg. Can her psychiatrist call the pharmacy and change it? Basically, does her psychiatrist have the power to cancel out the rest of her refills of Lamictal (crucial drug).

My mother is afraid if her psychiatrist takes her off of all her Bipolar meds, Social Security will no longer deem her disabled.

ut2005 wrote:My mother is afraid if her psychiatrist takes her off of all her Bipolar meds, Social Security will no longer deem her disabled.

Its not worth destroying your nervous system for a monthly check. That fight has been fought and won by others, you don't need to take drugs to qualify for disability.

Chances are she won't be disabled anymore anyway.

Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter- ... 85828.html

ut2005 wrote:However, my mother’s psychiatrist it trying to take away all her psychiatric medications…Lamictal and Klonopin. She downgraded my mom from 4mg of Klonopin to 3mg with a plan to completely ween herself off of it. She plans to do the same with Lamctal. But if she does either, my mom will go into the hospital for panic attacks or attempting suicide or suicidal idealizations

That was me going to hospital ERs for panic attacks, never enough clonopin combined with having my head screwed up by all the other "meds" .


I believe your mom has iatrogenic psychiatric illness, it means caused by the treatment.

http://www.google.com/search?q=iatrogen ... ic+illness


Bipolar II is the biggest scam in the DSM put there cause too many people were saying they were not bipolar so they made up bipolar II.

That is called disease mongering http://www.google.com/search?q=disease+mongering

I don't know exactly what to tell you about how to get through all those withdrawals so your mom can take her life back but you are lucky to have a psychiatrist that can recognize iatrogenic mental illness and very very lucky to have one willing to do something about it.


I was stuck in that place keep taking the pills or have panic attacks and manic meltdowns but I got through the withdrawals and got my life back.


"All psychiatric drugs have the potential to cause withdrawal reactions, including the antidepressants, stimulants, tranquilizers, antipsychotic drugs and 'mood stabilizers' such lithium. When the individual’s condition grows markedly worse within days or weeks of stopping the psychiatric drug, this is almost always due to a withdrawal reaction. However, misinformed doctors and misled parents, teachers and patients think that this is evidence that the individual 'needs' the drug even more, when in fact he or she needs time to recover from withdrawal effects."



"the concept of medication spellbinding provides insights into why so many people take psychiatric drugs when the drugs are doing more harm than good. Psychiatric drugs, and all other drugs that affect the mind, spellbind the individual by masking their adverse mental effects from the individual taking the drugs. If the person experiences a mental side effect, such as anger or sadness, he or she is likely to attribute it to something other than drug, perhaps blaming it on a loved one or on their own “mental illness.” Often people taking psychiatric drugs claim to feel better when in reality their mental life and behavior is impaired."

That spellbinding thing happened to me, I completely forgot that the only problem I had before going to those doctors was insomnia cause I am a total night owl and nagging anxiety from trauma growing up. I got so effed up as the pills were piled on over the years I forgot what I was like before so I kept taking them cause the withdrawals convinced me I needed them. Hospital ERs inpatient psych but here I am off all that crap and fine.


Keep posting, I know how this story goes I lived it (and made it) I am fairly certain your mom is putting up a fight at this point cause the clonopin reduction hurts and is claiming she 'needs' the pills. The next thing that happens is ....


One post poster, lets see if you ever come back. Hope so I know this thing.

ut2005 wrote:My mom has 4 refills of 4mg of Klonopin when she should be taking 3mg. Can her psychiatrist call the pharmacy and change it? Basically, does her psychiatrist have the power to cancel out the rest of her refills of Lamictal (crucial drug).

Protect protect protect the supply, that is clonopin dependency behavior. Been there done that.Of course you need the lamical to try and fight off the "tolerance withdrawal" from the clonopin.


""Tolerance Withdrawal". This is the very difficult situation in which you continue with your medication as usual, but you experience withdrawal symptoms. Again, an increase in medication may well alleviate these symptoms, but it is unlikely to last. Plainly, both of these situations are unsustainable, and at some point withdrawal may well be the only viable option left to you." http://www.benzobuddies.org/benzodiazep ... ependency/

Lamictal is not a "crucial drug" or the doctor would not be reducing it.

You have a doctor trying to rescue your mom from the psychiatric nightmare, don't fight it. I also involved other people in protecting my "crucial drugs" supply before I escaped the nightmare. I know this story.

I know this story well enough to think the best thing to is to go inpatient to detoxify from all this crap and have a bed and meals along the way but no one ever wants to do that. The hospital bills it as benzodiazepine dependency treatment.