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"mental patient"

Postby Auxiliary11 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:14 pm

I have some severe qualms with how certain therapist/psychiatrists treat the person who they're working with, and I would like to see if anyone else here holds the same opinion...

Do certain MH pros call their clients this as a way to dehumanize them and keep them at an emotional distance? Make their 'mental patients' easier to control? Do they get get pride from "successfully medicating" someone? Because last time I checked, these amazing human beings weren't zoo animals who need to be "restrained and drugged up".

"I have to get back to the other patients"; maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but when someone says this it's pretty clear to me that they see you as nothing more than a sick puppy, therefore putting the practitioner in a position of power, the "savoir complex". Where are all the ones at who treat you like a person? Ones who don't hide behind the diagnosis? Ones who don't try to gaslight you into thinking your delusional so they can feel better about themselves?

To some, to a certain extend, anything you say is just passed off as "crazy talk by a crazy person". If you come into contact with one of these MH pros -- run, and find another.
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Re: "mental patient"

Postby FreakOfTheDemonDoll » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:52 pm

I see a lot of therapists and mental health doctors in general to be uncaring, not wanting to give you all of the answers, and if you don't want to take meds, they just keep insisting you take some.
A lot of therapists played mind games with me, it was a waste of time.
They saw me nothing more than a quick buck.
I swear, if doctors see "some traits" of something, they wanna say it's "mild" even though you have like, 2 or 3 symptoms, give you medication, and doctors just want to keep it up and with saying the same things over and over again.
It's like taking a chimp away from his jungle, putting him in a cage, and when the chimp acts "aggressive", they give him medication and when all is doing well, they want to "bump it up" a little.
This then makes the chimp even more aggressive.
He starts to pace, stays up for days, loses consciousness here and there, thus having to go to the hospital.
His mind will never be the same.
It may be helpful for some people, but for that chimp, living beings like him just can't handle that.
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Re: "mental patient"

Postby Gomba13 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:54 pm

Auxiliary11 wrote:"I have to get back to the other patients"; maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but when someone says this it's pretty clear to me that they see you as nothing more than a sick puppy[...]

Maybe I wouldn't go as far as accusing a psychiatrist who does this of seeing me as a sick puppy, but this has happened to me once, and my take is that when a psychiatrist wants you to take into account how valuable their time is (as if mine weren't) by making you overly conscious of the existence of other patients needing care (you have two minutes tops to tell me your life story, hurry it up), it makes me feel like they just don't care about my well-being. Isn't my well-being the very reason the profession was created for?

My advice to anyone whose psychiatrist makes them mind the time they take to figure out their issues with their help, which are often just as debilitating as multiple sclerosis, or just as potentially deadly as advanced cancer, or just as damaging as the amputation of a limb (see if patients suffering from these medical conditions get booted as fast by their doctors) is to run and never look back.

Also, psychiatric clinics always have a code of conduct by which psychiatrists and all other personnel must abide. Read that code carefully. If your psychiatrist strays from it, don't be afraid to quote that code. If you make a formal complaint after an incident (which you should, to help protect other patients who seldom have anyone else to help protect them and their rights), do quote the relevant portions of that code in your complaint form. If nobody formally raises the issue, nothing will change. In fact, I think if we are frequently faced with such incidents involving psychiatrists, it is probably precisely because many of them know that nobody will raise the issue.

I understand and agree that the psychiatrist must keep a certain distance, but some of them either don't know where the limit is, or don't care, or take that too literally and overdo it. Don't they know that if they get you to feel like they are on your side, they will be better able to help you?

Sometimes, I wonder if that psychiatrist is more in need of help than I am. I see a lot of grandiosity...
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