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Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:58 am

3 key terms will be explained below: psychiatry, mental health, pharmacological torture:

It all depends on the way you want to see something or someone. You can color the situation or behavior in a favorable or unfavorable light.
The clearest way to see people and events is to be non judgmental - to just see and record the facts without coloring them with "this is right" or "this is wrong" or telegraphing the desired reaction to other people.

We should never think our way is the only way.
Sometimes we don't know how long or how hard someone has worked to achieve something.
The bottom line is results are what matter.
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Definition of terms could be another way of saying "negotiation".
I disagree with each and every term defined by psychiatry, including the term "psychiatry" itself, as each and every term is deceptive and highly debatable.
A truthful term for the cruel practice of deceiving people, defaming people, imprisoning people, and damaging their brain without a fair trial and without any crime would be "witch-hunt".

Charlatans who perform daily these human rights abuses are motivated by a love of violence.
Others are deluded and believe they are helping. "a frightening example of how morally motivated action can lead to massive suffering"

From at least the 1930s, the term "witch-hunt" has been used figuratively to describe activities by governments (and, occasionally, by business entities) to seek out and expose perceived enemies, often apparently as a means of directing public opinion by fostering a degree of moral panic.
psychiatry has been employed as a method of repression. Psychiatric abuse.

mental health is unrelated to health, and misused as an extension of political power.
Pharmacological torture - the use of psychotropics or other drugs to force compliance by causing distress, which could be in the form of pain, anxiety, psychological disturbance, immobilization, disorientation, and much worse effects of drugs: swollen muscles+inability to breathe, inability to have any deep thoughts, low blood pressure, impotence, brain damage, restlessness, parkinson's symptoms, ...

Indefinite detention is another form of torture to force confessions to nasty false allegations and to force acting compliantly and say to others the pharmacological torture is a "help"

Without the indefinite detention or the pharmacological torture people would be able to argue for the truth. With the indefinite detention + pharmacological torture people get brain damaged and cannot argue anything, cannot even leave when being fully compliant and reciting all false allegations and all lies. The longer the pharmacological torture lasts, the bigger and more severe the brain damage.

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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:12 am

The DSM-5 diagnoses behaviour not diseases and is a behavior control system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ZVZbm9e7c


"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." -Ayn Rand
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:44 am

Yes, that is what the government does with it, the government exposes innocent people to pharmacological torture and by inflicting a serious brain damage, the government controls their behavior. Of course inflicting brain damage is a way to stop every behavior.

But the political power of the government to inflict brain damage on innocent, unwilling people is a big problem. It is legalized and ongoing in every country. Nobody should have a right to do anything with our brain without our consent. We should have a basic human right for bodily integrity, and countries have violated the human right by involuntarily inflicting brain damage, and made it worse by lying throughout.

If we see the government as the authority that has ordered the service of psychiatrists and allocated budget to it, we will understand the government uses it deliberately to disable perceived enemies, and by fostering moral panic (lies such as the existence of mental illnesses), the society then exposes those who are perceived as misbehaving. It is the political witch-hunt, facilitated fully by the government, aiming to get rid of all misbehaving people, incl. the elderly, women, and children.

I think we need to expose the government because every year the government increases the budget dedicated to disabling people. Clearly, the government wants a world where everybody is disabled or jailed, controlled and monitored 24/7, rather than free. And this is how the government interferes with the human right for privacy and with the human right for security. Pharmacological torture and involuntarily inflicted brain damage have become an integral part of every modern government.
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:48 pm

The US is pretty bad but I have seen many posts from people in Australia and they have some wicked psychiatry there too.

Children and youth in the United States are leaving hospitals with a diagnosis of bipolar disorder 72.1 times more often than children and youth in the UK, according to a study led by University of Oxford researchers published in the Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry. US children receive a diagnosis of bipolar at a rate of 100.9 per 100,000 population compared to 1.4 per 100,000 in the UK. http://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/us- ... -often-uk/



Lola12345678 wrote:Clearly, the government wants a world where everybody is disabled or jailed, controlled and monitored 24/7, rather than free.



Have you ever seen this website "prison planet" ? http://www.prisonplanet.com/ Its alot of the same stuff as Infowars but it was named after them wanting to make the whole world a like a "prison planet"

I think things *may* get a little better, people are waking up, maybe we are having a little renaissance from all the "zero tolerance" dark ages that seem like they started in the 1990s.

I just hope Crooked Hillary doesn't get elected, And WTF is wrong with people wanting socialism ?

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Crooked Hillary !

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Venezuelan People Feel The 'Bern' As Real Socialism Destroys Their Country http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2016/06/07/venezuelan-people-feel-the-bern-as-real-socialism-destroys-their-country/

Screw that,

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And Trump 2016 , crooked politicians and lobbyists and special interests your fired !
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:31 pm

That is spot on. Politics is the study subject that explains what is happening at home and in the world, such as psychiatry. History [of politics and government] shows governments have extended their power via psychiatry, or some other witch-hunt, in every century. It is not getting better. It is getting allocated a higher budget every year to disable more people.

I admire much about Trump. He has his own special interests. He has bought the way to presidency, literally, and his interests are in building buildings for America's money to transform how America looks, to outcompete countries that have modern newly built buildings, like China or Dubai, to force Americans to pay extra taxes for any businesses that are abroad and outsourced to force them back to the US, and I foresee how everything American gets more expensive internationally, and how Trump really outcompetes other countries by screwing them on deals.

Trump is a tough guy. His position on psychiatry is to use it much more than now. I like a lot about Trump, but at the end of the day he has been only advertizing his business and only strategizing to create money, by whatever means, for himself to make more terrific deals on new buildings, from public money or internationally for different countries.

The bottom line is, Trump strategizes to achieve his vision of being much richer, much more powerful, and building many more buildings. He has been doing everything for himself, and always strategized to say at every step who the step helped. But if anybody benefits from Trump, it is only as a side effect of Trump helping himself. Do you know what I mean? I like Trump because I believe I understand him and he is a great mentor, very smart, very experienced. But the disadvantage is Trump is too smart, and like others he says one thing and does another. Specifically, he says he is making America great again, at times he substantiates the claim as making America rich again, and I believe instead he is making himself richer, more powerful, and known by everybody in the world, so that is a great deal for him and others can benefit only as a side effect.

My conclusion for today is that every deal with Trump is good for him while others may benefit as a side effect, or it may be completely bad for them. That includes the deal of making Trump the president. In my opinion there should be nobody for a president, politics and government should not exist, and when they exist it is always a rigged system.

The pragmatic ideology of authority/governance is that person A with the authority/dominance/power exploits all others without. It's always bad for the majority. It is the case of Trump being at the top of the food chain predating on everybody else because Trump is more experienced and more educated, more cunning, than most people. He can screw every reader of this post on any deal he makes with the reader.

Since Trump has been just screwing people on deals for a living, guess what he does when he is the government. And everybody else who will be the government will do the same since all these people have been screwing others for a living. Trump is better than other politicians at that because he has been screwing people on deals every day, for many many years. Politicians were more talking while Trump has been doing more action.

I can benefit from Trump by learning from him. I cannot learn that well from any other politician because they are stupid and illogical, do not seem to have any strategy, and they do not think like a businessman or scientist, but rather like theoretical debaters who do not know what they are doing, they seem to me like arguing points they do not believe in, only to outargue the opposition at any cost. They will readily argue that black is white and white is black just if they can outargue the other side. And Trump is different, he argues whatever fulfills his vision of making himself super rich, super famous, super powerful, almost like a dictator of America. Let's see if that happens. My position is still nobody for a president, but the more I see about Trump the more I learn. There are some great skills.
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:38 pm

Lola12345678 wrote:Trump is a tough guy. His position on psychiatry is to use it much more than now.


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Donald Trump and Dr. Ben Carson Discuss Vaccinations and Autism ...
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I disagree that Mr.Trump wants to use more psychiatry, if he knows and cares enough to call out the medical mafia on causing autism on national TV he knows what a more harm than good scam psychiatry is. Mr Trump will not be a friend to the psycho pharmaceutical industry. He doesn't like crooks.


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“We are not here to bash the use of these medications,” Clinton said. “They have literally been a godsend to countless adults and young people with behavioral and emotional problems.” Left untreated, such conditions as ADHD prevent children from reaching their full potential in life, Clinton said.

She also said the National Institute of Mental Health would dedicate more than $5 million to research ADHD and Ritalin use in preschoolers. The institute also released a fact sheet to help parents of children with emotional and behavioral conditions understand their options. http://articles.philly.com/2000-03-21/news/25604458_1_adhd-ritalin-psychotropic-drugs



Little children, preschoolers on drugs that are just like cocaine a "Godsend" - Crooked Hillary Clinton.


I don't like that Hillary Clinton , no string of obscenities can describe it, lying POS politician , lies and scandals and more lies fake and phony liar, no honor, no integrity and disgusting person.


And this can be new topic Hillary Clinton wants more kids on drugs or something like that. I am going to make one later.
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:31 pm

I agree on not wanting crooked Hillary. I like Trump a lot. I have seen the debate you are linking much earlier, and he made my day. But, do you remember his debate on gun control and references to the extension of the power of the government?

Trump mentioned his position on mental health as following: the shooters were very sick people, some people are very sick, and that he will dedicate more millions on "mental health" / the governmental power to inflict brain damage upon unwilling innocent people until they are permanently disabled. And as we know, pharmacological torture and involuntarily inflicted brain damage are what created the shooters. I see the debate on gun control as a big one.

Trump on one hand says he came to dislike doctors, and in his book he describes them as "money grubbing dogs" who ruin lives by selling unnecessary treatments without which the person would recover naturally and be healthy, whereas now after those treatments the person has a hard time recovering.

On the other hand, Trump said the shooters were "very sick". I disagree. The fostering of moral panic by lying about nonexistent mental illnesses is what I have strongly condemned in my initial post as a political "witch-hunt". The fact is the shooters were victims of a government tyranny.

Mental health / the extension of the power of the government to inflict brain damages is not the solution to any problem. Mental health / the power of the government to inflict brain damages is the problem. Trump, unfortunately, is about to increase the budget for inflicting brain damages by the government. To get rid of shooters the budget has to decrease until there is no brain damage inflicted upon anyone except those who ask for having it inflicted, and give a fully informed consent.
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:57 am

Trump has recently clarified that the shooters "were sick...sick with hate". Awesome!

He has made my day again. Trump has been honest and did not jump on the bandwagon of charlatans.

In my opinion, all the shooters were protesting against government tyranny. I can give many examples where the government tyrannized them to the extent the government has made shooters out of them. One example is through the political witch-hunt on bad behavior and torture inflicted to these innocent people radicalized them, made them sick with hate.

Another example is the Orlando shooting, where I believe a male genital mutilation (fraudulently called circumcision) is the reason the shooter had his life ruined, has been deprived of pleasure from a normal sex, and by the time he figured he was not gay and had a mutilated genital by the government (by charlatans), it radicalized him and he protested against government tyranny. He must have found out from those gay people about his genital mutilation.

But the Orlando guy is not the only one who has been tyrannized by the government in this way. Like him, Ted Bundy was. But Bundy did not know about his genital mutilation. He had a circumcision (male genital mutilation), like millions of others, as a baby. If you have a genital mutilation, chances are your genital is not working, no orgasm from a normal sex, and the government has deprived you of all pleasure from intercourse forever before you even had any sex at all, at a youngest age. Can you imagine the suffering?

It is done to innocent babies and boys every day, usually without anesthetics, and it is the biggest pain known to a man, most painful torture that lasts around 20 minutes while being strapped to a chair. Some of the victims never know why their genital is not working. But, it is because 80% of all erotogenic tissue was brutally cut off without any medical need, and the frenulum damaged by cutting and burning, and the rest is now a stumpy, only good for raping. The stumpy gets keratinized and damaged from exposure to the environment.

It is very well possible the Orlando guy was a victim of circumcision who could not feel pleasure from sex with women, he tried to be with gay men, and figured he was not gay, tried desperately everything he could, and at some point found out from the gay people the government genitally mutilated him as a baby. Because of his genital being mutilated, he realized it will never work and that was the triggering point to use his 2nd amendment against government tyranny and go shooting.

I can also explain Ted Bundy was genitally mutilated as a baby, had circumcision, and has been too deprived of pleasure from a normal intercourse. He never figured out he had a circumcision causing his problem. He, like everybody else there, figured there is a pleasure from making someone else suffer. And, he figured that is the only pleasure he can have. So he did just that because his genital was mutilated and he needed pleasure. And he was a lawyer and a very nice guy, but people damaged his life by inflicting a genital mutilation. He just did what he had to do to get pleasure like naturally every man needs. I blame doctors of medicine and the government for doing this, and for all the mass shootings.

And I have no doubt the Orlando shooter was a very nice guy too like Bundy, a victim of tyranny. A victim of male genital mutilation inflicted by doctors of medicine as allowed by the government.

By the way I do not have any religion. But I know ever **mod edit** has a genital mutilation, brutally inflicted in childhood. All **mod edit** have it, and that is the part of the formula that forces **mod edit** to inflict torture and violence on others for pleasure. There is usually no other pleasure genitally mutilated people can have. Imagine as a man, you see a hot woman, and you know in advance there cannot be anything with her because you are genitally mutilated, and any intercourse will suck, no pleasure [unless you get your pleasure from violence].

Look it up, maybe you are circumcised too and that has been ruining your life for 20+ years or whatever age you might be. Countless lives have been ruined by doctors of medicine. Every day, new genital mutilations are inflicted to more victims, and these genital mutilations are then behind most cases of violence and torture inflicted by people, and especially behind all torture done by isis. All **mod edit** have a genital mutilation, so they only have pleasure from violence. They feel more pleasure from torture than from sex because they are mutilated. Being genitally mutilated is a torture in itself. Everything in the world is about sex every day, and you get to hate women. That is why **mod edit** hate them. Genitally mutilated people typically cannot have a good life.

I also believe this is a breakthrough in understanding the truth. What if most people who misbehave are doing so because they have a genital mutilation?

Are your genitals intact, or circumcised?


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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Wheterly » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:20 pm

I think that the very concept of psychiatric disorder is very problematic. How can one person judge another and say that his thoughts and feelings are less valid ? It is only an opinion, but it cannot be made into a law. If a scientist explores some river system, he never says that this river is good or bad. That would be considered highly subjective and inappropriate. But while studying human behaviour, this is the norm. By the way, voluntarily taking medication and participating in therapy is clearly OK in my book, as long as there is no coercion.
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Re: Psychiatry is an extension of the power of the government

Postby Lola12345678 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:51 am

I agree and I promote the scientific truth. There is a political witch-hunt on bad behavior, not any disorder, not any illness. And bad behavior, as I have learned, is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS caused by some problem the person has. And that personal problem can be unknown to the person, to be still discovered, identified, learned about through awareness and education.

So, I maintain 1) everything is a political witch-hunt on bad behavior.

2) I argue against all torture and all violence inflicted on people with bad behavior. That means against beating kids and against torturing adults.

3) I provide a solution as follows: every diagnosis of a behavior is a misdiagnosis. You have your own personal problem causing you to misbehave. That personal problem may be physical, or it may be lack of some specific skills or knowledge. That personal problem you have may be unknown to you, i.e. you cannot pinpoint it, or name it, so you do not know what to do about it.

To solve your problem, you need to yourself correctly identify how to name the problem, and then it will be very easy to find how to solve it. And I have identified my problem as a genital mutilation done to me when I was 7 years old. That was something I have identified via coincidence as I found pictures of intact men and wondered why their genitals look different from mine. Then I found on wikipedia about circumcision and based on the photos I figured quickly this is what I have. Then I have attributed the exact problems that have ruined my life, and are still ruining it, as problems related to damaged / mutilated genitals.

And I have no doubt that every misbehaving person in the world is misbehaving for a reason! Nobody in the world will help you identify your reason. You have to ignore all the medical scams and BSes, and study business and politics, areas that none of you probably ever studied. And you will never learn what your problem is if you do not ever study business and politics.

I have pinpointed (or say identified, or say diagnosed) every problem thanks to studying things I have never studied before. And let me be honest with you. Medicine has no answer to any problem. Doctors are money grubbing **mod edit**. Business and politics have answers to most problems.

Bottom line: study what you never studied before, and you will get the knowledge which helps you understand what your biggest number 1 problem in life is, and its root cause. I hope most people will have a gap in knowledge rather than discovering something has been done to them, such as torture like genital mutilation. By the way in America at minimum 50% are genitally mutilated and do not know anything about it.
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