The shocking truth!

Mental illness is merely a social construct like Santa Claus or Bogey man. There is no illness. No medical findings. Nothing can be found on x-ray, mri, or ct scan.
Treatment is a deception. Doctors of medicine do not treat anything. They receive a complaint about somebody's behavior and take it as a right to inflict brain damage.

People are harmed with toxicity which damages their brain tissues, bones, and organs. Toxicity kills brain cells, and causes a severe and disabling injury.

Brain disability is deliberately inflicted because doctors claim it is better than any misbehavior.
Disability is inflicted upon normal healthy people via toxicity to make them unable to freely behave or misbehave as they become permanently brain-damaged (disabled) via brutal and long-lasting exposure to toxicity which fiercely damages their healthy brain tissues, and inflicts losses of normal brain functions. There are no abnormal brain functions in the brain. Everything is an assault, as well as a fraud, also a cruel and inhumane treatment and criminal means.

It is extremely painful, very crippling and debilitating. People are not treated with respect and dignity, are routinely lied to, are gravely injured. It does no good to anyone. This scam is brutal, abusive, there are so many levels of slander, libel, fraud, and exploitation of normal healthy people by for profit greedy and corrupt doctors. The originators of those complaints about behavior tend to be from close family or authoritarian, powerful places like colleges, universities, police, councils.

Nobody in the world has ever seen a Santa and his horses coming to your home on Xmas, a Bogey man coming through the wall, or a mental illness. There is nothing in medical findings, and there always will be nothing. Do you/did you believe in Santa/Bogeys/Mental illness? You were BSed and brain-damaged for your misbehavior on purpose. Will the misbehavior ever reoccur? They will damage you more or even kill you, they do not care how much toxicity and for how long you get. These corrupt doctors would shove an ice-pick up your eye sockets and damage your brain thoroughly without blinking an eye. They love damaging people, as they are sadists, rapists,
sociopaths, sickos, charlatans, fraudsters, scammers, bilkers, abusers, heavy drinkers, drug addicts, sexual perverts, all themselves. That is why they love to do it.

I'm afraid that you're talking nonsense. Someone that's severely disturbed and so dilusional that they're carrying a weapon to protect themselves from imaginary tormentors and enemies isn't just behaving oddly. He's off his rocker and needs help. People aren't conned into believing that chronic depression is something that they suffer from. Neither are anxiety or panic attacks or nervous breakdowns merely eccentric behaviour. It's not society saying that I feel ill when I go to my doctor with psychosomatic symptoms. Hyperventilating isn't an affectation that people indulge in or enjoy in any way.
 
How does prescribing Indorol for anxiety fit with the brain damage theory when that's a drug that they usually prescribe for high blood pressure? Is high blood pressure also just behaviour that's not socially acceptable and patients complaining of that are being scammed as well? Why was I coping with my problems more successfully and feeling happier when they put me on a script? Am I now a retard after I've come off it? I mean more than I was before?
 
You could make a similar argument about alcohol. Has knowing the truth about the damaging effects that drinking causes put people off from doing it? Is alcoholism merely behaviour or an example of social control or both?
 
Why does it have to be an elaborate conspiracy when any fool knows that there are risks and complications associated with pharmasutical drugs? If Big Brother is trying to pretend that they're safe then why do they keep making them controlled substances when it becomes apparent that they're not? Do the cops have less or more trouble with dope addicts? Did you know that I become less socially inhibited and disciplined when I'm on downers and just stop giving a crap about anything in a similar way that drunks do?

TruthSpeaker wrote:There is nothing in medical findings, and there always will be nothing.

Not saying we are just computers but its still like hardware vs software medical being hardware and thinking and beliefs being software.

NoM8s wrote:I'm afraid that you're talking nonsense. Someone that's severely disturbed and so dilusional that they're carrying a weapon to protect themselves from imaginary tormentors and enemies isn't just behaving oddly. He's off his rocker and needs help. People aren't conned into believing that chronic depression is something that they suffer from. Neither are anxiety or panic attacks or nervous breakdowns merely eccentric behaviour. It's not society saying that I feel ill when I go to my doctor with psychosomatic symptoms. Hyperventilating isn't an affectation that people indulge in or enjoy in any way.
 
How does prescribing Indorol for anxiety fit with the brain damage theory when that's a drug that they usually prescribe for high blood pressure? Is high blood pressure also just behaviour that's not socially acceptable and patients complaining of that are being scammed as well? Why was I coping with my problems more successfully and feeling happier when they put me on a script? Am I now a retard after I've come off it? I mean more than I was before?
 
You could make a similar argument about alcohol. Has knowing the truth about the damaging effects that drinking causes put people off from doing it? Is alcoholism merely behaviour or an example of social control or both?
 
Why does it have to be an elaborate conspiracy when any fool knows that there are risks and complications associated with pharmasutical drugs? If Big Brother is trying to pretend that they're safe then why do they keep making them controlled substances when it becomes apparent that they're not? Do the cops have less or more trouble with dope addicts? Did you know that I become less socially inhibited and disciplined when I'm on downers and just stop giving a crap about anything in a similar way that drunks do?

TruthSpeaker, NoM8s, you have raised many important points. This post uniquely addresses them:

1. Firstly, you said, Someone 'severely delusional', meaning someone who is very wrong about things in life but believes to be totally right.
If this person is carrying a weapon, I will assume a pistol, to protect himself from 'imaginary tormentors and enemies', he is 'not just behaving oddly'. Correct as he is behaving oddly + endangering the public with a pistol.

2. When you say he needs 'help', by 'help' you mean a forced brain damage (via toxicity, electroshocks, lobotomy, or using other way)?
If so, I disagree as nobody has a right to get onto someone and assault thim with a dangerous chemical to deliberately mutilate his brain. Under no circumstances his odd behavior or his endangering of the public gives someone the right to detain and brain damage.

Here, I propose only to address the actual confusion. When a person protects from 'imaginary tormentors and enemies', I understand he is fearful and fear has to be addressed first. Take him to safety where he feels comfortable and nice, and help the person to meet other people and to talk to other people so that the person will have somebody to talk to, and will not be alone. Just being alone is enough to become extremely fearful.

Weapons have to be temporarily seized until the person is again feeling strong and confident, sharp, and assertive. (i.e. he is back with people, not singled out anymore).

3. People are conned into believing that their emotions are 'chronic' or pathologies, and that cannot be true because emotions are always felt in reaction to something being percepted at that exact time when the emotion is felt. You watch something very sad and you may feel very sad, you watch something very stimulating and you may feel very happy. It is impossible to have any 'chronic' emotion or pathological (which means diseased) emotion. Impossible.

That is not to say one cannot be overwhelmed by some emotion, meaning some specific emotion is felt too often and gets too intense. When overwhelmed by an emotion such as fear, anger, depression, anxiety, happiness, sadness there is some need or some want not getting
achieved. A person desperately needs or wants something to be how he wishes it to be, and it is just not happening. Then the emotion can be felt stronger and stronger, more and more often.

Like in my reply in @2, by 'help' do you mean a forced brain damage? If so, I disagree as in @2. And the solution I propose is to address the actual thing or things the person want to happen. There is always something overlooked for too long by the person himself which the person might not even realize at all, and others who know him can actually see it that the person is missing it. Awareness is the first step toward getting what you need. The second step is strategy (i.e. devise how you will achieve it), and the third step is execution (do it).

4. Depression, anxiety, anger, happiness, sadness, etc. are emotions as explained in @3. Please give it 5 minutes, try to see it as your feelings in response to situations. I feel depressed when I do not achieve what I want. I feel anxious when I try to be perfect in front of people. I feel angry when I get mistreated by someone. I get happy when I get what I want. I get sad when I lose something of value to me.
Are you aware of your feelings? Many people are not at all aware and do not realize what they feel, or why they feel it, or that it is OK and normal to feel emotions, weak or strong. It is what makes us human.

5. It is society saying you are 'ill' when you are healthy. The society is stupid and BSing each other since childhood through adulthood, we will even BS each other when we are 70 or 80 years old. That is how the society works, one takes advantage of another by BSing. Those who work as doctors of medicine are greedy and will do everything and anything to damage your health for as long as they get money. There are harmful and useless treatments for 'illnesses' that do not exist, and harmful and useless procedures that are carried where nothing is needed. For every invasive procedure the scammers get paid, and this is their business, they do everything to make more money, prescribe harmful and useless drugs, carry harmful and useless operations, maximize the problem to make the biggest possible money on it. They do not care about health! And the society are BSers, they do not care about truth unless it is something that happened to them and they are extremely intelligent or have an extreme perseverance to keep investigating it.

6. You have feelings and your feelings have an impact on your life. But calling them 'psychosomatic symptoms' is a social construct, not the truth, and it is very misleading, harmful, and a deceptive term. Greedy doctors who invented the term 'psychosomatic symptoms' scam people for living.

7. When feeling overwhelmed, you may be breathing heavily or as scammers say 'hyperventilating', but it is a social construct from scammers, and it is again very misleading, harmful, and a deceptive term. You know who invented it and why. Being overwhelmed is normal and happens to everyone who does not have awareness of his needs and wants. It also happens when you do not succeed meeting your needs and wants. You may be breathing heavily, but you may have no clue what you have been ignoring for so long that it makes you feel so intense. If I knew you in person I would have probably told you I have noticed your weaknesses are in certain areas that you need to work on. Of course you have many strengths too. Can you find for yourself what your weakest area is? That will be the one which gets neglected for so long that it causes intense emotions now.

8. Indorol is a dangerous drug which damages the brain via toxicity. Generic name is propranolol. It is highly toxic, damages also heart and other tissues. http://www.drugs.com/sfx/inderal-side-effects.html Those effects of the toxic drugs described as 'side' are not side, they are primary effects and if you get exposed to toxicity it will always damage your tissues, there is no good in toxicity. See the skull and crossbones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicity You do not wish to know this, but in case of a high blood pressure they expose you to this toxicity because while you are poisoned it slows down your heart and all other organs as they will be attacked by the toxicity and they will be fighting. You may think it is something good for blood pressure while instead you are getting all your organs damaged incl. your brain and heart and genitals. Toxicity has been damaging to sexual functions very much, but also to thinking, muscles, etc. Terrible.

9. Blood pressure can be associated to just a behavior, and often is. Specifically when you are very angry, it goes up. When you are very anxious, it goes up. When you are very happy, it goes up. Any intense emotion makes heart pressure go up. It is directly linked to that emotion and if it is, then it is not anything pathological (not any disease), and you should not mutilate your body with toxicity.
Just because some scammer can scam you to attack your heart and organs does not mean that he is telling you the truth. All he is doing is being greedy and making money on anything that can be sold or prescribed. Solving @7 removes the overwhelming emotion and with it the blood pressure will be the usual. Your body is right now under attack of a dangerous toxic chemical which does you no good.

10. When they put you on a script, and the toxicity started damaging your brain, you could not realize what was happening because you were intoxicated with the toxicity and your thinking was not clear for all that time. It is like when being drunk, while drunk you cannot realize the head ache or thirst or that you are acting retarded, but only when sober you can see that you are acting retarded, that you have some problem, etc. While being intoxicated it can give you an illusion that you are better, but the opposite is the truth. You are better when you are sober, and you can achieve anything you set your mind on. Now that you have sobered up after the long intoxication with brain damaging drug, only now you have realized what it has done to you. Please, stay sober. Work on your problem, intoxication will kill you if you continue and it will never solve your problem. If you really need to, please get a beer instead which is much less toxic and feels much better, it also damages your brain and organs, but is much better than the other chemicals.

11. The point is not about drinking or not drinking. The point is that it does not solve any problem. It instead creates more problems on top of your problems, and it makes you behave retarded but when you are constantly drunk you cannot realize what is happening, and one day you will just lose your life because you will be that desperate. If instead of drinking or damaging your brain with a toxic chemical, you start being aware of your emotions, and you start listening to them, i.e. when feeling too sad you deliberately choose to do something that makes you very happy, then you win. Your job is to understand your own strengths and weaknesses, find your weakest area, whichever skill it is, and work on it. If you are desperate, get a mentor online to help you, get a life coach, find some for free, etc.

I am leaving out your last two paragraphs as I would rather respond to your honest and serious questions, such as the above.

yola wrote:

NoM8s wrote:I'm afraid that you're talking nonsense. Someone that's severely disturbed and so dilusional that they're carrying a weapon to protect themselves from imaginary tormentors and enemies isn't just behaving oddly. He's off his rocker and needs help. People aren't conned into believing that chronic depression is something that they suffer from. Neither are anxiety or panic attacks or nervous breakdowns merely eccentric behaviour. It's not society saying that I feel ill when I go to my doctor with psychosomatic symptoms. Hyperventilating isn't an affectation that people indulge in or enjoy in any way.
 
How does prescribing Indorol for anxiety fit with the brain damage theory when that's a drug that they usually prescribe for high blood pressure? Is high blood pressure also just behaviour that's not socially acceptable and patients complaining of that are being scammed as well? Why was I coping with my problems more successfully and feeling happier when they put me on a script? Am I now a retard after I've come off it? I mean more than I was before?
 
You could make a similar argument about alcohol. Has knowing the truth about the damaging effects that drinking causes put people off from doing it? Is alcoholism merely behaviour or an example of social control or both?
 
Why does it have to be an elaborate conspiracy when any fool knows that there are risks and complications associated with pharmasutical drugs? If Big Brother is trying to pretend that they're safe then why do they keep making them controlled substances when it becomes apparent that they're not? Do the cops have less or more trouble with dope addicts? Did you know that I become less socially inhibited and disciplined when I'm on downers and just stop giving a crap about anything in a similar way that drunks do?

TruthSpeaker, NoM8s, you have raised many important points. This post uniquely addresses them:

1. Firstly, you said, Someone 'severely delusional', meaning someone who is very wrong about things in life but believes to be totally right.
If this person is carrying a weapon, I will assume a pistol, to protect himself from 'imaginary tormentors and enemies', he is 'not just behaving oddly'. Correct as he is behaving oddly + endangering the public with a pistol.

2. When you say he needs 'help', by 'help' you mean a forced brain damage (via toxicity, electroshocks, lobotomy, or using other way)?
If so, I disagree as nobody has a right to get onto someone and assault thim with a dangerous chemical to deliberately mutilate his brain. Under no circumstances his odd behavior or his endangering of the public gives someone the right to detain and brain damage.

Here, I propose only to address the actual confusion. When a person protects from 'imaginary tormentors and enemies', I understand he is fearful and fear has to be addressed first. Take him to safety where he feels comfortable and nice, and help the person to meet other people and to talk to other people so that the person will have somebody to talk to, and will not be alone. Just being alone is enough to become extremely fearful.

Weapons have to be temporarily seized until the person is again feeling strong and confident, sharp, and assertive. (i.e. he is back with people, not singled out anymore).

3. People are conned into believing that their emotions are 'chronic' or pathologies, and that cannot be true because emotions are always felt in reaction to something being percepted at that exact time when the emotion is felt. You watch something very sad and you may feel very sad, you watch something very stimulating and you may feel very happy. It is impossible to have any 'chronic' emotion or pathological (which means diseased) emotion. Impossible.

That is not to say one cannot be overwhelmed by some emotion, meaning some specific emotion is felt too often and gets too intense. When overwhelmed by an emotion such as fear, anger, depression, anxiety, happiness, sadness there is some need or some want not getting
achieved. A person desperately needs or wants something to be how he wishes it to be, and it is just not happening. Then the emotion can be felt stronger and stronger, more and more often.

Like in my reply in @2, by 'help' do you mean a forced brain damage? If so, I disagree as in @2. And the solution I propose is to address the actual thing or things the person want to happen. There is always something overlooked for too long by the person himself which the person might not even realize at all, and others who know him can actually see it that the person is missing it. Awareness is the first step toward getting what you need. The second step is strategy (i.e. devise how you will achieve it), and the third step is execution (do it).

4. Depression, anxiety, anger, happiness, sadness, etc. are emotions as explained in @3. Please give it 5 minutes, try to see it as your feelings in response to situations. I feel depressed when I do not achieve what I want. I feel anxious when I try to be perfect in front of people. I feel angry when I get mistreated by someone. I get happy when I get what I want. I get sad when I lose something of value to me.
Are you aware of your feelings? Many people are not at all aware and do not realize what they feel, or why they feel it, or that it is OK and normal to feel emotions, weak or strong. It is what makes us human.

5. It is society saying you are 'ill' when you are healthy. The society is stupid and BSing each other since childhood through adulthood, we will even BS each other when we are 70 or 80 years old. That is how the society works, one takes advantage of another by BSing. Those who work as doctors of medicine are greedy and will do everything and anything to damage your health for as long as they get money. There are harmful and useless treatments for 'illnesses' that do not exist, and harmful and useless procedures that are carried where nothing is needed. For every invasive procedure the scammers get paid, and this is their business, they do everything to make more money, prescribe harmful and useless drugs, carry harmful and useless operations, maximize the problem to make the biggest possible money on it. They do not care about health! And the society are BSers, they do not care about truth unless it is something that happened to them and they are extremely intelligent or have an extreme perseverance to keep investigating it.

6. You have feelings and your feelings have an impact on your life. But calling them 'psychosomatic symptoms' is a social construct, not the truth, and it is very misleading, harmful, and a deceptive term. Greedy doctors who invented the term 'psychosomatic symptoms' scam people for living.

7. When feeling overwhelmed, you may be breathing heavily or as scammers say 'hyperventilating', but it is a social construct from scammers, and it is again very misleading, harmful, and a deceptive term. You know who invented it and why. Being overwhelmed is normal and happens to everyone who does not have awareness of his needs and wants. It also happens when you do not succeed meeting your needs and wants. You may be breathing heavily, but you may have no clue what you have been ignoring for so long that it makes you feel so intense. If I knew you in person I would have probably told you I have noticed your weaknesses are in certain areas that you need to work on. Of course you have many strengths too. Can you find for yourself what your weakest area is? That will be the one which gets neglected for so long that it causes intense emotions now.

8. Indorol is a dangerous drug which damages the brain via toxicity. Generic name is propranolol. It is highly toxic, damages also heart and other tissues. http://www.drugs.com/sfx/inderal-side-effects.html Those effects of the toxic drugs described as 'side' are not side, they are primary effects and if you get exposed to toxicity it will always damage your tissues, there is no good in toxicity. See the skull and crossbones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicity You do not wish to know this, but in case of a high blood pressure they expose you to this toxicity because while you are poisoned it slows down your heart and all other organs as they will be attacked by the toxicity and they will be fighting. You may think it is something good for blood pressure while instead you are getting all your organs damaged incl. your brain and heart and genitals. Toxicity has been damaging to sexual functions very much, but also to thinking, muscles, etc. Terrible.

9. Blood pressure can be associated to just a behavior, and often is. Specifically when you are very angry, it goes up. When you are very anxious, it goes up. When you are very happy, it goes up. Any intense emotion makes heart pressure go up. It is directly linked to that emotion and if it is, then it is not anything pathological (not any disease), and you should not mutilate your body with toxicity.
Just because some scammer can scam you to attack your heart and organs does not mean that he is telling you the truth. All he is doing is being greedy and making money on anything that can be sold or prescribed. Solving @7 removes the overwhelming emotion and with it the blood pressure will be the usual. Your body is right now under attack of a dangerous toxic chemical which does you no good.

10. When they put you on a script, and the toxicity started damaging your brain, you could not realize what was happening because you were intoxicated with the toxicity and your thinking was not clear for all that time. It is like when being drunk, while drunk you cannot realize the head ache or thirst or that you are acting retarded, but only when sober you can see that you are acting retarded, that you have some problem, etc. While being intoxicated it can give you an illusion that you are better, but the opposite is the truth. You are better when you are sober, and you can achieve anything you set your mind on. Now that you have sobered up after the long intoxication with brain damaging drug, only now you have realized what it has done to you. Please, stay sober. Work on your problem, intoxication will kill you if you continue and it will never solve your problem. If you really need to, please get a beer instead which is much less toxic and feels much better, it also damages your brain and organs, but is much better than the other chemicals.

11. The point is not about drinking or not drinking. The point is that it does not solve any problem. It instead creates more problems on top of your problems, and it makes you behave retarded but when you are constantly drunk you cannot realize what is happening, and one day you will just lose your life because you will be that desperate. If instead of drinking or damaging your brain with a toxic chemical, you start being aware of your emotions, and you start listening to them, i.e. when feeling too sad you deliberately choose to do something that makes you very happy, then you win. Your job is to understand your own strengths and weaknesses, find your weakest area, whichever skill it is, and work on it. If you are desperate, get a mentor online to help you, get a life coach, find some for free, etc.

I am leaving out your last two paragraphs as I would rather respond to your honest and serious questions, such as the above.

Oh, those were serious points if this is all premised on controlling people by making them into zombies. Alcohol and benzodiazapens work very similarly and sure, they try to police drunks and dope addicts but they're usually far from compliant and furthermore, there's been more social dissent and non conformity since drugs including uppers and downers became available. What was Jim Morrison on? I think that he tried just about everything and his whole thing was about derangement of the senses in order to break on through to the other side and maybe that means going insane and that dude had some serious problems but he saw himself as a shaman trying to liberate people's minds and he did, even if he ultimately fell into depression and all that we know is that it says heart failure on the death certificate but that his own doctor says that he was in pretty good physical shape for an alcoholic but that he was risking serious physical injury if he carried on boozing and indulging in reckless behaviour.

Uncontrolled drug use is a threat to the establishment and they try to police it. I prefer the theory myself that the war on drugs is about criminalising people and justifying a repressive regime but they're not winning any war and a master plan to turn people into a bunch of compliant retards by giving them whiskey or any other brain damaging substance isn't really going to work because it takes too long and counterculture is essentially a youth movement or it just becomes conformity and mainstream socially acceptable behaviour.

To return to the guy on the psychotic episode that's totally lost the plot and is carrying a lethal weapon, people have been trying to talk to him for a very long time and he's got a family that cares about him but whatever you say to him it's not really getting through and he's aware that when he's lying in bed hearing voices calling him a prick it's because he's gone nuts but he still keeps telling you that the neighbors are talking about him wherever he goes and there's no place of safety for him and he could snap at any minute just because he thinks that someone is giving him dirty looks and attack them. This is all a true story and this person actually thought that by producing photographs of his neighbors in court that the looks on their faces as he went about taking snaps would count as evidence that would have to convince the judge. So, to sum up again; this person is loopy and he does need professional help because somehow I don't think that a couple of weeks in a hippy commune is going to work if his own family can't get through to him.

I never said anything about forcing drugs on him. I've got a sister that's a psychiatric nurse and she's not a psychopath and is a sensitive girl that would get upset if she saw patients being treated with cruelty or brutality. I've visited a girlfriend in the same hospital and the nurses seemed like nice people doing a very difficult job. It is their job to talk to patients and to reassure them that they're safe. Assaulting them is counterproductive, as is any intimidating behaviour whatsoever. It is a hospital though and they are there to provide medical treatment. As I've stated in another thread, the law in this country does direct nurses to explain what treatment they're offering so that patients can make informed decisions and if they section you that means that you are detained to prevent you from harming yourself or others and it doesn't mean that doctors can disregard those informed decisions.

And total BS about me being conned into thinking that an anxiety attack is an unpleasant symptom of a mental health problem. It is extremely unpleasant, can feel like you're physically ill but you go and have all sorts of tests to determine if you are and they all come back negative and of course the doctors are going to tell you that it's a mental health problem because it can't be anything else unless their tests are wrong. You can go on as much as you like about it just being emotions. Your emotional state effects your health. Everybody knows this. But I'm talking to someone here that thinks that high blood pressure is just a myth and that they're trying to murder my parents. They're even giving my dad rat poison to thin his blood. Indorol isn't the trade name for Propranarol. It's just the same beta blocker at half the dose per capsule.

Also, when they put me on a script I very quickly became aware of the difference between being on the different drugs and being straight or sober. Drugs effect different people in different ways of course but Propranalol did nothing for me. It is completely worthless as a recreational drug but you can get a pound a piece if you're punting valium tablets. You maybe get something like a mild high from antidepressants but again, no real feeling of intoxication and if I was thinking like a tard when I was on it I still managed to get a university degree.

I don't like taking medication unless it's necessary or occasionally for pain relief or to relax. Drinking beer is not really better for me because it gives me pancreatitis and that supposedly has a ten percent fatality rate. Another binge could theoretically kill me and I believe it because I've felt the pain and it can immobilise me for days. I mostly just smoke weed these days and I'm not really bothered if it is genetically modified because the effects are well known and it's not got any poisonous crap in it. I'm not really bothered about you judging me for being stoned either man. Just don't tell me that you can get out of your box on Seroxat and Propranalol. I've used enough drugs to know what altered conciousness is. The intoxicating effect isn't noticeable because whether or not you want to classify drugs as toxins these are not intoxicating and you don't get halucinations or sit staring at walls for hours like a junkie or anything like that.