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Psychiatry is just social control

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Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:02 am

Social control. noun. 1. Sociology. the enforcement of conformity by society upon its members, either by law or by social pressure. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social-control

Copy_Cat wrote:All the evidence of more harm than good to the patient is out there, well known to the insiders, not the public. Psychiatry is not really about the good of the patient, its about social control.


Read the symptoms of ADHD


1 Be disorganized
2 Lack focus
3 Have a hard time paying attention to details and a tendency to make careless mistakes. (Their work might be messy and seem careless.)
4 Have trouble staying on topic while talking, not listening to others, and not following social rules
5 Be forgetful about daily activities (for example, missing appointments, forgetting to bring lunch)
6 Be easily distracted by things like trivial noises or events that are usually ignored by others.

Source http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/adhd-symptoms





Now read what they are really saying,


1 It is unacceptable behavior to be disorganized.

2 It is unacceptable behavior to lack focus.

3 It is unacceptable behavior to have a hard time paying attention to details and a tendency to make careless mistakes. Their work might be messy and seem careless.

4 It is unacceptable behavior to have trouble staying on topic while talking, not listening to others, and not following social rules.

5 It is unacceptable behavior to be forgetful about daily activities (for example, missing appointments, forgetting to bring lunch).

6 It is unacceptable behavior to be easily distracted by things like trivial noises or events that are usually ignored by others.


"Behavioral medicine". Millions of children on drugs. God help us.

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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Riccola » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:17 am

I agree. Have a child thats to bright? To playful? Doesn't fit into the standard one size fits all conformist education system? Well he is sick, and here are the legalized stimulants and abusive therapy to get him to conform. Its funny how just a few hundred years ago such was seen as a positive, not a negative. But in the eyes of classical psychiatry, everything is potential profit at the expense of human life.
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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:20 am

Bipolar disorder,


1. Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity.
2. Decreased need for sleep (for example, you feel rested after only three hours of sleep).
3. Unusual talkativeness.
4. Racing thoughts.
5. Distractibility.
6. Increased goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or agitation.
7. Doing things that are unusual and that have a high potential for painful consequences — for example, unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions or foolish business investments.

Source http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... n-20027544



Now read what they are really saying,



1. It is unacceptable behavior to have inflated self-esteem or grandiosity.

2. It is unacceptable behavior to have decreased need for sleep (for example, you feel rested after only three hours of sleep).

3. It is unacceptable behavior to have unusual talkativeness.

4. It is unacceptable behavior to have racing thoughts.

5. It is unacceptable behavior to have distractibility.

6. It is unacceptable behavior to have increased goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or agitation.

7. It is unacceptable behavior to do things that are unusual and that have a high potential for painful consequences — for example, unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions or foolish business investments.


"Behavoiral medicine" God Help us.


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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:33 am

Riccola wrote:I agree. Have a child thats to bright? To playful? Doesn't fit into the standard one size fits all conformist education system? Well he is sick, and here are the legalized stimulants and abusive therapy to get him to conform. Its funny how just a few hundred years ago such was seen as a positive, not a negative. But in the eyes of classical psychiatry, everything is potential profit at the expense of human life.



Would We Have Drugged Up Einstein? http://www.alternet.org/story/154225/wo ... th_problem


Thomas Edison (born Feb. 11, 1847; died Oct. 18, 1931) is mentioned more often than any other historical figure for exhibiting classic ADHD ...

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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Riccola » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:34 am

The criteria is so loose anyone could be labelled with that, not to mention the overlap between other disorders. The DSM is a catch all net imo.
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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby NoM8s » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:21 am

[quote="Copy_Cat"]Social control. noun. 1. Sociology. the enforcement of conformity by society upon its members, either by law or by social pressure. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/social-control

[quote="Copy_Cat"]All the evidence of more harm than good to the patient is out there, well known to the insiders, not the public. Psychiatry is not really about the good of the patient, its about social control.


Read the symptoms of ADHD


1 Be disorganized
2 Lack focus
3 Have a hard time paying attention to details and a tendency to make careless mistakes. (Their work might be messy and seem careless.)
4 Have trouble staying on topic while talking, not listening to others, and not following social rules
5 Be forgetful about daily activities (for example, missing appointments, forgetting to bring lunch)
6 Be easily distracted by things like trivial noises or events that are usually ignored by others.

Source http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/adhd-symptoms





Now read what they are really saying,


1 It is unacceptable behavior to be disorganized.

2 It is unacceptable behavior to lack focus.

3 It is unacceptable behavior to have a hard time paying attention to details and a tendency to make careless mistakes. Their work might be messy and seem careless.

4 It is unacceptable behavior to have trouble staying on topic while talking, not listening to others, and not following social rules.

5 It is unacceptable behavior to be forgetful about daily activities (for example, missing appointments, forgetting to bring lunch).

6 It is unacceptable behavior to be easily distracted by things like trivial noises or events that are usually ignored by others.

Yeah, I can imagine your boss saying that. Must be too old to remember when any employer might have considered those to be positive qualities.
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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby NoM8s » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:37 am

How do you explain a girl that was agaraphobic and after a short period of hospitilisation got over it? Any counterexample against your thesis refutes it as you are condemning it all.
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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:41 am

NoM8s wrote:How do you explain a girl that was agaraphobic and after a short period of hospitilisation got over it? Any counterexample against your thesis refutes it as you are condemning it all.


Define "got over it" cause I am thinking your definition of got over it includes going home drugged on maybe Paxil or Cymbalta and then if she ever wants to quit or gets pregnant she is up against the psychiatric drug withdrawal nightmare.

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Seems to me when you get out of those "hospitals" you are not "over it" but the nightmare is actually just beginning. At least for the rare person that finds themselves in the hospital BEFORE being put on psychiatric drugs.


So again whats your definition of "got over it".

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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby NoM8s » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:26 am

I mean just that she got over it and it wasn't a problem anymore. She did say to me that she didn't like the way that drugs made her feel but she couldn't go out because of panic attacks. I think that she just got therapy because a lot of it was just thinking that guys were stalking her and stuff like that because of experiences she had had. Anyway, she said that she had got over her phobia and not that they had sorted her out with drugs. I assume that they treated her underlying problems, rather than treating her symptoms with medication.

I would compare it to rehab. That's what it basically was for her. Personally, I don't support drug maintenance programs for addicts and I think that resources should be put into abstenance based rehab facilities. These places exist and they are run by shrinks. If you go to rehab you know it's going to be horrible but you go through it if you want to get yourself sorted out.
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Re: Psychiatry is just social control

Postby Comp_Lex » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:28 am

Well, I think that the existence of psychiatry is a symptom of a much larger problem, namely the lack of a functioning society.
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