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-WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:06 pm

-WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-.... All I ever see on this -FORUM- is complaining etc... I gave -YOU- the perfect vehicle to defeat the MENTAL HEALTH INDUSTRY by using the information in the posting labeled -PRO SE LAW-... This vehicle has been used by many people to fight for their legal rights and win in the court system and or in the public arena etc. etc. etc...

-YOU- have the means to easily defeat the MENTAL HEALTH INDUSTRY, -YOU- and your fellow human beings with MENTAL ILLNESS have the time and track record and or history and or written documents etc... to crush this -EVIL-.... Plus -YOU- have this and other -FORUMS- to post how each and everyone one of -YOU- is doing against this -EVIL-...

Ps, there are hundreds if not thousands of lawyers and or groups and or organizations etc. etc. etc., that will help -YOU- for nothing... The publicity of your fighting this -EVIL- will rally people behind -YOU- when they hear how your human rights are violated...
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby NoM8s » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:17 am

Well, as far as I can tell, a lot of it's just ranting about the system, rather than complaints about breaches of standard practice. Take the claims about being asaulted for instance. Not a word about physical injuries, so as far as I can tell nothing criminal or improper actually took place.
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:43 am

-NoM8s- etc... interesting possibilities.... ???
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:53 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:PRO SE LAW


The statue of limitations ran out for me.

I had them, I was held past the 72 hours without a hearing.

False imprisonment is a restraint of a person in a bounded area without justification or consent. False imprisonment is a common-law felony and a tort. It applies to private as well as governmental detention.

42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights ...

-- Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:00 am --

NoM8s wrote:Well, as far as I can tell, a lot of it's just ranting about the system, rather than complaints about breaches of standard practice. Take the claims about being asaulted for instance. Not a word about physical injuries, so as far as I can tell nothing criminal or improper actually took place.



Physical injuries... Haloperidol is Neurotoxic http://www.madinamerica.com/2013/07/hal ... eurotoxic/

or improper actually took place...

A basic understanding of sheep behavior... Sheep are sheep and they will never get it.

You can lock up a sheep, violate its rights, violate its body with drugs and it will think nothing criminal or improper actually took place. Thats why they use them as lab animals.
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:04 am

NoM8s wrote:standard practice


The standard practice is the complaint.

Standard psychiatric care: torture - Beyond Meds
http://www.beyondmeds.com/2013/06/26/standard-psychiatric-care-torture/
Jun 26 - Standard psychiatric care is coercive (yes, the United Nations calls forced ... program in spite of UN declaring force torture In "forced treatment".
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:17 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-.... All I ever see on this -FORUM- is complaining etc...


I am fighting back, this is an information war.

For years psychiatry owned the TV and newspapers, using the media to lie to the public saying what ever they wanted without question.

Now we have the internet, things have changed. People are waking up.
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby NoM8s » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:22 am

Then you need to discredit that particular drug by demonstrating that it causes perment and significant damage. All drugs have side effects. That doesn't necessarily make them toxic. This is somewhat analagous to complaining that someone made you drink some brandy when you were hysterical and then complaining that alcohol causes brain damage.

As for the rest of it, it's really difficult for me to tell if your claims about brutality or humiliation are really standard procedure or merely your perception of it. Also, you're talking about how it is in your country and I've got to tell you that they really don't want to keep people in hospital over here and The emphasis is on what they call "care in the community".
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:58 am

NoM8s wrote:analagous to complaining that someone made you drink some brandy


Not really.

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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:13 am

NoM8s wrote:standard procedure or merely your perception of it.


Coercion and force and violence, is there a right and wrong way to perceive it ?

NoM8s wrote:ranting


Thats what you think of what people here have been through ?

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Its my body but they said I must to ingest these chemicals, OK said the sheep. Do what I am told said the sheep. They own me said the sheep. I have no free will said the sheep.

Sheeple (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people") is a term that highlights the passive herd behavior of people easily controlled by a governing power which likens them to sheep, a herd animal that is easily led about.

-- Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:21 am --

Maybe you should head over to the child abuse forum and tell those people they are ranting. Tell them its just their "perception".

Tell us how that works out.

And if some hospital gets you inpatient and you get a taste , don't come crying to us.
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Re: -WHY WHY WHY, WON'T YOU FIGHT BACK-

Postby NoM8s » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:11 am

Well, let's say that someone is drunk and disorderly. The cops would probably have to use coercion and force to get them under control. Might have to lock them up against their will even.

As far as "violence" goes I suspect that you're using that redundantly because you already mentioned force. This is my problem with your rhetoric bud. Are patients routinely beaten by staff? Give examples where excessive force was used. Tell me how pain is inflicted to keep patients in line, as opposed to just saying that you were physically restrained.
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