Having fun inpatient

Well, they can only advise you to stay off the sauce or to drink in moderation. If the drugs actually alieveiate depression there's less of a reason to drink. People talk a lot of bollocks about addiction. If you break the chemical dependancy and just decide that you don't want to do that anymore you can relapse without it becoming a habit again, however much you crave it. Craving is just greed. Being an alcoholic isn't about liking a drink. It's about not being able to cope without one.

The thing is, a doctor can try to get someone to quit drinking and to take his tablets but alcoholics tend to be liars. These are people that will go and get hammered after an AA meeting. How's it the doctor's fault if the patient is an idiot that makes an undertaking to get his act together and then decides that he doesn't really want to do that yet?

NoM8s wrote:but alcoholics tend to be liars.

Thats not as bad as this person that was chairing a meeting that kept saying "all alcoholics are liars" we all lie and cheat... bla bla bla

Finally I couldn't take it anymore and interrupted and said "except for me" and explained that alcohol really seemed to help with anxiety in the beginning so I drank it and it had nothing to do with dishonesty.

So after I said all that and explained about five minutes later someone else started with the "we" and "all" alcoholics are dishonest thing again so again I interrupted and said "except for me" ! It was the funniest thing. I wouldn't go to these meetings if it wasn't fun sometimes.

I also have fun with the anti psychiatry (the truth) at these meetings when they start in with "the disease" and all that broken brains talk.

If they start in with the alcoholism is genetic and runs in families thing I start asking why is there no DNA test ? Why does it not follow mathematical patterns like blue eyes and brown eyes ? I also point out that behaviors like being a fan of certain sports teams, voting for a particular political party and choice of religion also runs in families and ask if that is genetic too .

NoM8s wrote: These are people that will go and get hammered after an AA meeting.

I don't think a am a liar but I don't believe in total abstinence for myself, I believe in extreme moderation and only using alcohol on rare occasion and only if I know I am absolutely going to have a good time as opposed to relief drinking or using it for boredom. I don't share that because there are some at those meetings that screw up every time they drink and absolutely do need total abstinence. It wouldn't be right to encourage them to try moderation.

If someone asks how long I have been sober I say many years except for a "few slips" but since my recovery from alcohol dependency I have had no problems like needing detox,rehabs , hospitals or had any trouble with the law.

It was psychiatry that really did me in with Adderal and Clonopin and SSRIs and anti psychotics all mixed up that really did me in and they don't have psychiatry anonymous. No way does alcohol get all the credit for what happened to me and half the people up in that meeting are people who had problems with opiates .

I could bash and trash AA like some of those anti AA webpages do by pointing out some things but bull $#%^, AA is a great free support group and a great way to meet people who are not all about getting hammered all the time but instead are trying to do better.

But back to the honesty, I could easily claim I have been completely sober for years but it would feel worse lying than it does when people think and act like they are better than me cause they have more time.

Logically I know its stupid but I must be a little brainwashed cause I do feel guilty about playing with alcohol a few times a year and not confessing when I go to a meeting or doing that thing with the chips.

I don't care cause those meetings help me.