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Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:33 pm

“I am sorry that happened to you”

So a person is suicidal or having panic attacks and wants help but instead experiences the inpatient nightmare, the lockup , the strip search, the dehumanization, forced smoking withdrawal, coerced drugs, Haldol needle rapes. Witnessing others assaulted by staff. Assaulted by staff themselves. Doors locked no place to run. And I always use the word rape, that what forced penetration with a needle full of drugs is especially with the drug Haldol.

So the person survives the ordeal and has all the feelings associated with being abused and traumatized by the so called help and is all upset telling their therapist afterward and the therapist says “I am sorry that happened to you”.

Why do they say that ? It sounds like they are saying the nightmare from hell psychiatry calls help was justified.

Instead of the therapist saying “I am sorry that happened to you” wouldn't it be better to say instead:

That should never have happened to you

No one deserves to be treated like that

That's awful, I am appalled, I will help you file a lawsuit

or maybe even Psychiatry is a soulless criminal enterprise all about money what did you expect ???

Maybe someone call fill me in, why do they say “I am sorry that happened to you” ? or add to the list of things they could say instead.
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Riccola » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:01 am

'you are dealing with people who belong in prison'

'I am sorry you fell victim to high functioning psychopaths'

'There is nothing wrong with helping people, but not when it inflicts emotional scars'

'you fell victim to the greatest, most unconstitutional scam in the history of the human race'

'some psychiatrists are sicker then the patients they treat'

'psychiatrists end lives the way death can not'

'psychiatrists enable abusers, punish your suffering, further your decline"

'you were not dealing with sane, rational or reasonable people'

'Some psychiatrists have deep seeded personal troubles where they feel the need to take it out on defenseless people'
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:42 am

Much better ! Thank you.

My ordeal was years ago but I noticed that every therapist I talked to during my recovery replied “I am sorry that happened to you” instead of all those better ones.


Just thought I would call that out .
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:13 am

Riccola wrote:'you are dealing with people who belong in prison'

'I am sorry you fell victim to high functioning psychopaths'

'There is nothing wrong with helping people, but not when it inflicts emotional scars'

'you fell victim to the greatest, most unconstitutional scam in the history of the human race'

'some psychiatrists are sicker then the patients they treat'

'psychiatrists end lives the way death can not'

'psychiatrists enable abusers, punish your suffering, further your decline"

'you were not dealing with sane, rational or reasonable people'

'Some psychiatrists have deep seeded personal troubles where they feel the need to take it out on defenseless people'


Much better ! Major improvement. Thank you.

My ordeal was years ago but I noticed that every therapist I talked to during my recovery replied “I am sorry that happened to you” instead of all those better ones.


Just thought I would call that out .
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Lusid » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:21 am

People will go to any lengths of abuse if they think they 're saving someone's life. It's sick really. Nothing else, not even being a POW, makes it legal for the state to lock you up, restrain, electrocute and forcefully drug you (also arrest you and raid your house with no cause). But as soon as they think you're suicidal? Open torture season in the name of morality.
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Comp_Lex » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:58 am

WTF indeed. They are sorry for an event that happened to you instead of that they are sorry for something that *they* did. What they said is actually not a real excuse.
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Riccola » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:25 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:Much better ! Major improvement. Thank you.

My ordeal was years ago but I noticed that every therapist I talked to during my recovery replied “I am sorry that happened to you” instead of all those better ones.


Just thought I would call that out .


They just don't see the harm done when its done. To a psychiatrist everything appears to be the byproduct some illness, not legitimate human concern or failure of the system.
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby NoM8s » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:54 pm

I think that when you say that these people were assaulted you mean that force was used to restrain them. I don't doubt that there are people working in psychiatric institutions that use excessive force where you could call it torture or abuse just like there are in prisons. It happens in all sorts of institutions but forcibly punishing patients or abusing them can't actually be hospital policy, even if you do think that it's institutionalised.

This is a criminal matter if you're blowing the lid on actual torture but it's harder to argue that a practice like forcing drugs on someone that's seriously distressed and disturbed is abusive. Most people would consider it negligent to not medicine an emergency case ASAP. What's the alternative? How is being raped with a needle worse than forcing tablets down someone's throat? It isn't. There's no way to safely sedate a person without a needle if they aren't cooperating.
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Marian » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:39 pm

I have been drugged. First they just persuaded me. Then they forcefully drugged me. Yes, it was definitely rape. They drugged me for reasons like praying in the garden or wanting to fast. They would also use force for other things, like not coming to eat at the dinner table. Their drugs and their treatment were worse than my problem. In my case they could not even say "I am sorry that happened to you". They just think they are right in doing so.

The drugs damage your brain and take all your positive feelings away from you: love, happiness, spirituality, joy, connection to self and others and God. There is just no legitimate reason to do that against someone's will. Not even if the person is distressed or suicidal. I'd much rather had stayed distressed my whole life than what I am now - an emotionless, drugged zombi. I'd even much rather had died from suicide as myself, than having to live a long life as a zombi.

There's no justification for drugging people against their will. None. Why would there be a definite need to drug someone who's distressed and who really does not want to be drugged?
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Re: Inpatient abuse “I am sorry that happened to you” WTF ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:28 am

Marian wrote:There's no justification for drugging people against their will. None. Why would there be a definite need to drug someone who's distressed and who really does not want to be drugged?


These brain-disabling interventions are considered effective when the doctor, family, patient or society views impaired brain function in the target individuals as a desirable or beneficial effect.

They usually lie and call it help but sometimes they get a little more honest when they call it "behavioral medicine". Medicine to control behavior.

Drug induced Apathy indifference and anhedonia is considered effective in controlling what they consider inappropriate behaviors. You just don't feel much like behaving at all, your "cured".

Marian wrote:they forcefully drugged me


That's not very nice but thankfully today we have the ability to expose psychiatric mistreatment by using the internet.

One of the better ways is using consumer complaint sites such as http://www.ripoffreport.com

These hospitals and doctors advertise their services as "help", they don't like when their dirty deeds are posted on the internet for anyone who Googles their name to read and then likely go elsewhere and doing this helps confirm the abuse that goes on when people speak about it.

Your posts seem pretty well put together but I always warn people that if they are going to get a little justice using these types of consumer complaint sites to expose psychiatric abuse to remember there is no go back and edit button and if they write something too angry and not well thought out and post it sometimes it confirms they "needed" the treatment.

And also you can post anonymously.

It also helps to write reviews like on Yelp for these hellholes called hospitals to warn others.

Google the name of the hospital and forced drugging doctor, see how that works ?
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