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cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby the fritz » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:19 am

does anyone have experience with pretending to take (or 'cheeking') medication in a supervised environment? i might have to move into a group home and i have no interest in the stuff they expect me to take but it's a requirement for living there. asking the antisocials because i actually want a serious response and not 'oh but you shouldn't do that, you need meds' and if you want to know what these meds are and why they were prescribed i won't be inclined to answer because i don't want a biased opinion. just know that they are awful and even if they switch me to another type it will still have the same function which is what i'm trying to avoid. please help.
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby crystal_richardson_ » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:22 pm

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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Ada » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:13 pm

Against the rules in this part of the forum. I'm temporarily locking, while I see if I can find a better location.
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Ada » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:54 pm

Moved from AsPD to AP. :)
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Riccola » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:18 pm

Have you tried talking with your current docs about this? Perhaps they can arrange or give help with something other than a group home? I would let them know how you feel and why the meds will not work.
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:01 am

the fritz wrote:it's a requirement for living there


They, meaning anyone, need a court order to force psychiatric drugs on people.

That requirement is illegal, it just has to be.

Try contacting these websites

http://www.mindfreedom.org/

http://psychrights.org/


I know if I was facing a situation where I needed to cheek pills I would practice with tic tacs or candies before hand to get better at it.
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:20 am

I just searched medication refusal "group home" and group home mandatory medication

And nothing really comes up.


Found this,

"I am going to share with you all a story about how I refused psychiatric meds and engaged in willful noncompliance and how I got away with it. I am going to tell you what meds I was on and how I went off them without anyone’s permission but my own. I am going to teach you by example how to wage successful noncompliance. More > https://intentions.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... tric-meds/
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Riccola » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:56 am

Copy_Cat wrote:
the fritz wrote:it's a requirement for living there


They, meaning anyone, need a court order to force psychiatric drugs on people.

That requirement is illegal, it just has to be.

Try contacting these websites

http://www.mindfreedom.org/

http://psychrights.org/


I know if I was facing a situation where I needed to cheek pills I would practice with tic tacs or candies before hand to get better at it.



Question, is it true that some Psych hospitals actually have "courts" in them with a judge?

***Trigger Warning***

This story makes mention of a cell phone talking judge. Eventually the court rules in favor of forced medication. Its kind of sad considering they thought she was safe enough to let her out on the condition she comes back.


http://psychrights.org/Stories/CrazyUntilProvenSane.pdf
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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby batpoopprincess » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:39 pm

A group home can require you to take meds as a condition of living there. It's not a legal matter the same way forced drugging in a hospital is.

In a group home, you sign an agreement to abide by the rules of the home. If you don't agree with the living agreement, you don't sign and you don't live there. It's not someone telling you what to do; it's everyone in the house agreeing to follow the same rules.

I realize that this puts lots of us "between a rock and a hard place" since group homes are often the best place for the mentally interesting.

I wish I had better news!

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Re: cheeking/pretending to take medication

Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:17 am

batpoopprincess wrote:
In a group home, you sign an agreement to abide by the rules of the home.


Not if the rules were illegal. Just like if the house rules said you must submit to being raped.

In fact thats what forced psychiatric drugging is, rape, having something put in your body you don't want with force or coercion.

Its not picking up clothes or doing your dishes its putting drugs inside YOUR body.

A persons body is the on thing in this world they and they alone own.

Bodily integrity is the inviolability of the physical body and emphasizes the importance of personal autonomy and the self-determination of human beings over their own bodies. It considers the violation of bodily integrity as an unethical infringement, intrusive, and criminal.

If these drugs were anything but cruel torture people wouldn't be going online for advice on how to avoid swallowing the $#%^. And "they" wouldn't need coercion to rape it into peoples bodies.

I would like to see one of these "agreements" to forced drugging.

Can someone scan and upload or take a photo and post it, removing identifying information if you wish, I just want to see the wording of the forced drugging "agreement" forced on people.
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