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Which is the criteria to force hospitalization?

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Which is the criteria to force hospitalization?

Postby Neuroexplorer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:32 am

I was hospitalized once, after a lot of instrospection I came up with an idea that eliminated my phobias. I had been through a lot of a stress, losing my fears made me euphoric, for the first time I felt free. My parents were happy with my improvement. Until I talked about my ideas. They asked for help and I had an interview in a mental clinic. I told the doctor my ideas and I told him that madness was relative and had more to do with adaptation and tolerance than ideas (as an atheist, I think theism is crazy, but it is yet tolerated).

I wanted to prove my point, so I signed the contract and was admited there. They gave me meds but my ideas didn't change, and they believed I heard voices, when in fact I talked about a real conversation with a friend (I already confirmed that happened). I couldn't convince them so instead I admited that I used to heard voices and I told them that medication made them go, only then they noted an improvement. They wouldn't let me go though, and they wouldn't answer me when I asked them what was wrong with me, they just told me "Don't worry, you will get over it". I started to feel bad because of the meds "side effects", I was that bad that my parents decided to get me out of there. But the doctor told them that I wasn't ready. Then I suddenly remember that my psychology teacher told me that they can't force you to stay if it was the first hospitalization and it was voluntary. So, I told my parents, they said the word lawyer, and the doctors wrote I was cured.

I changed doctor and I kept taking medication, until I stopped defending my ideas and I admited they were ridiculous. I didn't change my mind, I just stopped talking about it.

I made my research and I found that my ideas were philosophical, they are called solipsism and open conciousness, and a lot of religions share them. So do paranoids, but in my case, it didn't cause me stress, I didn't feel persecuted, I felt safe. I was euphoric, but I think it was justified.

After what happened, I didn't feel safe anymore, but paranoid. I fear that I may express an idea and people will declare me crazy again. I don't know which criteria is used for diagnosis, madness seem subjetive.

I'm a relativist, but I have never hurt anyone, I have never attempted suicide, and I have never broke the law. I'm not interested in doing any of that things. I believe good and evil are subjetive, I believe we are all equal, and I believe there are no reasons to hurt anyone. And yeah, I also believe there are no reasons to not hurt anyone, other than common sense.

I think that they can't force me to take meds again, and that I would win if I had a lawyer, but I'm too afraid to ask anyone about my rights, and get "caught". I know I'm paranoid, but I believe my fears are justified by my experiences and my ignorance. If you tell me how this works, I won't be scared anymore. I take sleeping pills because I can't stop thinking about this and I'm afraid of asking for help.
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Re: Which is the criteria to force hospitalization?

Postby Sceptile1 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:17 pm

Don't sue. Far too much work. Karma has a way of dealing with these people. Your case is not uncommon. Medication follows enlightenment if you hang around the wrong people. You'll be fine as long as you stay off meds. Godspeed.
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Re: Which is the criteria to force hospitalization?

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:30 pm

This video I saw posted today is relevant to this thread,

Official extended trailer for CRAZYWISE, a feature documentary challenging the current mental health system in crisis. A 20-year fascination with shamanism leads photographer and filmmaker Phil Borges to question how Western cultures define and treat severe mental disorders.

http://crazywisefilm.com/
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Which is the criteria to force hospitalization?

Postby NoM8s » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:30 pm

This is something that I can sympathise with. I'm interested in philosophy as well but a lot of it can be so divorced from common sense reality that it seems insane to most people and you can also start to see them as the ones that are insane because they don't see things the way that you do. Solipsism is the belief that you are the only thing that really exists and it's generally considered to be untenable. Pathologically it could be looked at as a way to distance yourself from other people or to denegrate and depersonalise them.

It's not enough to say that something is just a philisophical position. These things reflect an underlying pathology, neurosis or world view.
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