advice or perspective

Hi, this is my first post here. I will start my problem from the middle of the story.

I have been many, many years free of the system.. long enough that my rage exhausted itself or rather, the task and fight of antipsychiatry defeated me.. and I let myself be free of my obsession with understanding the system, the alternatives and everything related, to the nth degree.. long enough that it was ok to let it go for a day, a month, and before I knew it, years have gone by... the trauma from forced treatment had diminished greatly, though still affected my worldview and trust of people and vigilance of myself...

Anyway, lately I had been looking for work and noticed employment opportunities for 'peer workers' in the community and in the wards. Hell, I thought, maybe I can encourage even just one person.. let them know true recovery, not just medicated recovery, is possible, help them get through the ordeal at the very least? I got a job interview to work in an acute ward and suddenly I inhabited the full meaning of that word "triggered"... have been a mess of intrusive bad memories, inconsolable fury.. And thinking how naive I was that 'the system' would allow one inch of empowerment, really. So, I know now I am not fit to work in the wards.. how could I *again* watch the psych semi-torture tactics of convincing people they are ill for a lifetime, the forced ECT and so forth and live with myself to be part of that in any way, even if my intention was noble.

My 'triggered' state is quite intense.. what can I do to overcome this? It's been going on for nearly 2 weeks now, to the point I am avoiding friends out of anger and a sense of isolation that is over a decade old in fact! Not related to the now at all. I think in big part what exacerbated it was discussing it (the job role and my still unmoved stance on the dangers of psychiatry) with friends and being faced all over again with how deeply the majority of people are awash in the "mental illness awareness and anti-stigma campaigns" that it makes receiving true understanding near impossible..I feel alone.. like I did back then. I know it won't last. But wanted to let it out..somewhere..

I worked in it too but not the acute ward.

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I get that with the triggering, as I watched them going to the nurses station to take psychiatry's chemical nightmares.

I was just like WTF dishing out that crap that never helped me and I rarely see help anyone else.


Paxil and Latuda and Lamictal and Zyprexa.... WTF !


Most of these people were there BECAUSE of there history of psychiatric drugging and they just do MORE.


I got to tell my story but it often "fell on deaf ears" stupid saying but it did.


That was the hardest part watching patients like sheep going to the slaughter > this pill is "non addicive" and will help with anxiety....


I don't have an alcohol problem I just need "the right meds" for my anxiety they were telling me.

How long have you been taking psychiatric drugs ? Did they ever help anxiety ? Oh they always made you sicker and you get wicked side effects but THIS time it will be different right ?

So I get how you got triggered.

Maybe you should just go for it and do "anti psychiatry" as hard as you can till they object and fire you.


Pass out the Mindfreedom truth brochure

1. Download a PDF of this two-page flyer at the link below.
2. Photocopy the flyer back-to-back on any light-colored paper. (We like light green, but white or any color is fine.)
3. Fold in thirds and hand out!


http://www.mindfreedom.org/truth/gateway


And do the 12 steps of anti psychiatry ! and get others to do them.


The 12 Steps Of Antipsychiatry

RARELY HAVE we seen a person who has thoroughly followed the psychiatric path and recovered. Those who do recover are usually people who have recognized Psychiatry as a dangerous medical cult, and will not give themselves completely to psychiatry's fanatical program. The Psychiatry Cult is constituted primarily of men and women of the APA who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with anyone... including themselves .


We are not at fault; WE were screwed the second we sat on the leather couch and then took those first pills. We were systematically indoctrinated into believing that we have a biologicaly based brain defect with no test or procedure to prove this. Psychiatrists should be held accountable for the behavior that has ruined so many lives. Many APA members suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders. The psychiatric program requires that they believe emotional problems are biological brain defects that people can never recover from and they must take dangerous pills for the rest of there lives. Most of the people who quit Psychiatry have recovered in large part, due to their self-determination and ability and willingness to think and act rationally. Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to be like, what happened, and what we are like now.

If You have decided You want to leave Psychiatry and are willing to go to any lengths to do it - then you are ready to take certain steps.

At some of these We were delighted. We were sure that We had found a more sound and reasonable way. With all of the earnestness at our command, We encourage You to be resolute and confident from the very start. Some of Us have tried to hold on to our old Psychiatric ideas and the result was nil until We let go absolutely. Remember that WE deal with Psychiatry - cunning, baffling, dishonest! Continuing the mental masturbation was too much for Us.

May You trust and believe in Yourself now! Delusions and psychiatric nonsense availed Us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We learned to protect and care for Ourselves with complete Self-acceptance. Here are the steps We took which are encouraged as a course of action to escape the Psychiatric mind trap...

1. We decided We were not "powerless" over our problems - that Our lives had become dominated by psychiatry.

2. Came to understand that we never had any biological brain defect as psychiatric fundamentalists had led us to believe.

3. Made a decision to turn and walk away from psychiatry forever.

4. Made a scorching and fearless indictment against psychiatry as an organization.

5. Admitted to Ourselves and another human being that we had been ambushed into joining a criminal atheist medical cult.

6. Were entirely ready to relieve ourselves of all the self-defeating bullsht we were taught by psychiatry.

7. Familiarized Ourselves with cult indoctrination tactics in order that we may never fall into a similar trap again.

8. Made a list of all mental health workers who had harmed us, and became willing to confront them all.

9. Called such people on their bullshtt whenever possible, except when to do so would physically injure them or others real bad.

10. Continued to indict Psychiatry and when we were wronged promptly expressed our disapproval of it.

11. Sought scientific empirical evidence that could help us to defeat psychiatric bullsht and lies; focusing on truth as the Power to carry that out.

12. Having been awakened from the Psychiatric nightmare as a result of these steps, We tried to carry this message to other victims of Psychiatry, so that everyone might know the truth about the Psychiatric medical cult and big pharmas crimes.



Go work there, do your step 12.

Thanks copy_cat. I get what you are saying and agree in one way. On the other hand, by distributing antipsych or MF materials in a ward it would probably encourage people to fight and argue their diagnosis with staff and just get themselves drugged up further.. I totally agree with Method 2 here. http://speakoutagainstpsychiatry.org/ho ... -hospital/

I'd also add that *staying out* seems to hinge on coming off the drugs very slowly. Most people understandably want the chemical hell to end now. I took a year and a half over my last withdrawal and as I mentioned in the first post, that was over a decade ago.

Mostly, the staff are quite insane, utterly addled by the psychiatry bulldust. and unless I were going in as someone with any clout - some shred of legal, administrative, or advocacy power at all, it's not worth it to put myself through. From a distance, the job seemed great.. close up, way too scary.

In answer to my own question about how to overcome the flood of triggered memories.. I forced myself to focus on other stuff: doing overdue taxes, watching unrelated documentaries, and so forth and now I feel back to usual. I have also realized that it's not to my benefit to go too far into this topic with friends who believe the hype about chemical imbalance and so forth.. no matter how my own experience shows otherwise and I would've hoped that would be proof enough.. But in the end, my journey is for myself and for whom ever I can benefit along the way.. I've certainly made my position known and am there for anyone who may ever go through these things.. but, for everyone else, if I were divide my friends into pro-psych or anti-psych.. (which is tempting to do when I re-visit the anger I had years ago.. since it was friends who delivered me into the system) well, I would wind up with exactly zero friends in real-time.

flamencoflamingo wrote: http://speakoutagainstpsychiatry.org/how-to-escape-from-a-psychiatric-hospital/

That was cool and is now on my list of cool stuff to re post .

The entire human rights in psychiatry movement seems to me to be an "infowar"

You have all the industry lies such as the "chemical imbalance" Vs the truth that is usually called "anti psychiatry". So much more fun to be on the side of the truth.

Its happening slowly but thanks to the internet he truth is spreading faster than the lies spread by pharmaceutical company marketing departments, their front groups like NAMI ect.

A person only needs to read a good web page explaining the lies of biological psychiatry once and they are forever immune to the lies.

I call it paying it forward, I came across stuff other people posted and that helped wake me up and figure out that psychiatry itself was keeping me sick with drug dependence and I wasn't alone being the only one that was harmed.

I cant even remember how I found this forum but it was becuase someone else took the time to post it and it was there for me to find.

I made a post here that last I checked, over a year ago, had over 20,000 views because it came up on searches for Zyprexa withdrawal.

flamencoflamingo wrote:In answer to my own question about how to overcome the flood of triggered memories.. I forced myself to focus on other stuff: doing overdue taxes, watching unrelated documentaries, and so forth and now I feel back to usual. I have also realized that it's not to my benefit to go too far into this topic with friends who believe the hype about chemical imbalance and so forth..

It probably is best to stay away from that triggering stuff. I dont do well walking into ANY hospital, as soon as I walk in the fight or flight this place is not safe reaction raises my blood pressure with that feeling of anxiety ect. Those doors with the magnet locks , people wearing rubber gloves, the smell... Exit, where is the exit ? The use it now wile you still can feeling.

Been there trying to explain to friends who "know" about the chemical imbalance and so forth, its not easy telling people that "what everybody knows" and has known their whole lives is #######4.


I have to do stuff like watch netflix documentaries or do toolbox fix it stuff if I get to into this online activism and psychiatry psychiatry psychiatry is all stuck in my head.

I hope you keep posting in this forum there are only a few of us right now. Lets keep it going.