Halidol nightmare *triggers*

quackery wrote:be more cunning, more manipulative, more ruthless.

I personally don't think anything is off limits when it comes to dishing out justice for abuses behind psychiatric locked doors with the exception of harming innocent people or animals.







Doctors car : "I abuse my patients with needles and drugs behind locked doors"


I told them when I was being abused for the "crime" of going to the hospital in distress to remember that I will be outside sometime in the future and that they should think about how they are treating me. You people park in that lot out back right ?

I was not injected despite the injection threat when I refused the pill lobotomy *maybe* because I said that. I have no way of knowing.

That was not the right way to handle the situation but unless you have been in the situation of people making threats of a frightening painful injection in a place with locked doors and no place to run I doubt you will fully understand my reaction.

The images of vandalized cars might bring a smile to some faces but I think exposing psychiatry's dirty deeds on the internet is the most damaging act available without doing something illegal if the legal system wont help you.

A car can be repainted, whats written on consumer complaint sites stays "I abuse my patients with needles and drugs behind locked doors"

Be more cunning, more manipulative, more ruthless... Thats right.

I definitely don't think "schizophrenic" people deserve halidol. No one deserves halidol, not even pedophiles or murderers. If people hear "voices" they should be able to choose whether or not they want to get rid of those voices and if the side effects of anti psychotics are worth getting rid of them.
If you go by the DSM I guess I could be "schizophrenic" since the "symptoms" can get so broad and meaningless( "unsociability" "disorganized thinking" ) that anyone could be if a psychiatrist decided that that's the diagnosis they're going with.
Also now just feel like posting interesting things I find out about halidol:
Leonid Plyushch, a Russian scientist and political dissident of the 1970s who eventually fled to the United States, told how he had been drugged in a Soviet psychoprison on small doses of the neuroleptic Haldol: ‘I was horrified to see how I deteriorated intellectually, morally and emotionally from day to day. My interest in political problems quickly disappeared, then my interest in scientific problems, and then my interest in my wife and children.My speech became blurred; my memory worsened. In the beginning, I reacted strongly to the sufferings of other patients. Eventually I became indifferent. My only thoughts were of toilets, tobacco and the bribes to the male nurses to let me go to the toilet one more time. Then I began to experience a new thought: 'I must remember everything I see here, I told myself, so that lean tell about it afterwards.''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Plyushch

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Haloperidol clearly is neurotoxic. Should it be banned?
Why use an old and harmful antipsychotic when safer alternatives are available?
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Few medications remain in use 50 years after they were launched. Advances in drug development often render older drugs obsolete because newer drugs are more efficacious or safer, or both. Consider reserpine: Nowadays, no internist would use this drug to treat hypertension, even though it was the top-selling antihypertensive 50 years ago. Why? The adverse effects profile is no longer acceptable, with safer alternatives available.
Astonishingly, almost all first-generation psychotropics discovered 5 decades ago (neuroleptics, tricyclic antidepressants, monoamine oxidase inhibitors) are still on the formularies of most health care facilities and are used by many clinicians, especially those working with managed care organizations. Jails and prisons in the United States, where hundreds of thousands of seriously mentally ill patients are incarcerated, also use 50-year-old agents, without regard to the downside of older drugs on the body, brain, and quality of life of those incarcerated medically ill patients.
If clinicians who use these decades-old drugs were to keep up with medical research and advances in knowledge, we would realize what a travesty it is to use a brain-unfriendly drug such as haloperidol when we have many safer alternatives. A massive volume of knowledge has emerged over the past 15 years about the neurotoxicity of older neuroleptics, especially haloperidol—knowledge that was completely unknown before.a Second-generation antipsychotics have been shown to be much safer for the brain than their older-generation counterparts (although they are not more efficacious).
Changing awareness and changing practice
I used haloperidol for 20 years, and can vouch for its unquestionable efficacy in treating delusions and hallucinations. But I have avoided using it over the past 15 years, as the neuroscience literature about its harmful effects on brain tissue emerged and multiplied.
In addition, I came to realize that most psychiatric practitioners were unaware of the alarming deleterious neurologic effects of haloperidol—largely because the studies that reported those effects were published in neuroscience journals rarely read by practicing psychiatrists and nurse practitioners, and the pharmacists in charge of drug formularies at hospitals.
Evidence for the grave neurotoxicity of haloperidol and other older neuroleptics, compared with atypical antipsychotics, is substantial and multifaceted. The FDA would never approve haloperidol today, given the serious harm it can do to the brain, despite its efficacy for psychosis. (It’s interesting how the FDA bans a drug immediately if it causes tragic birth defects, such as thalidomide, but not if a drug is destructive to the brain tissue of a disabled adult patient. Invisible damage can be less alarming or urgent than visible damage.)
Twenty-eight studies reporting the various destructive effects of older antipsychotics (especially haloperidol) on brain tissue have been published in prominent neuroscience journals, based on work in animal models, cell culture, and post-mortem human tissue. Multiple molecular mechanisms, pathways, and cascades are involved, eventuating in neuronal death. The first review and discussion of these 28 neurotoxicity studies was presented at the annual meetings of the Society of Biological Psychiatry1 and the American Psychiatric Association2; a manuscript will soon be submitted for publication. See the bibliography below for a list of the 28 published studies.
The molecular mechanisms of neurotoxicity of older-generation antipsychotics, including haloperidol, fall into several major categories:
• apoptosis
• necrosis
• decreased cell viability
• inhibition of cell growth
• increased caspase activity (the “death spiral”)
• impaired glutamate transport
• mitochondrial damage.
Examples of specific mechanisms of neurotoxicity among older-generation antipsychotics appear in this Table.

With this massive evidence of the serious neurotoxic effects of haloperidol, should it be banned? The risks of the drug far exceed the benefits—especially given the availability of 9 atypical antipsychotics that have been shown to exert neuroprotective properties, such as inducing neurogenesis and increasing neurotrophic factors.3 One of our foremost duties as medical professionals is to protect patients from harmful treatments that could exacerbate their disability. It’s time to retire this aging neuroleptic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTCwihayOv0
And here she is......

I do alot of posting over on psych forums and this thread about a Haldol Nightmare behind psychiatric locked doors was posted so I thought I would share it over here.

I would like some comments to help support the victim of this horrific abuse, and also I would like some advice about how to help people who come to this forum after being mistreated looking for advice. I lived the nightmare they call help too and know that it is almost impossible to get legal help no matter how badly they dehumanize you and abuse and endanger your life with those drugs make threats or use violence to force them ect ect. Does anyone have any advice for those harmed and abused by psychiatry looking for some sort of justice ?


Read more http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/peggy-rodriguez-m-d-unm-department-of-psychiatry-residency-program/

http://www.foodrenegade.com/confessions ... ug-pusher/
"Out of all of the drugs I had sold over the years in various specialties, the only drug that ever really challenged my moral ethics was Haldol, particularly Haldol decanoate. This was the “Big Daddy” of all neuroleptics. It made me cringe while learning about this newest form of Haldol during the launch meeting when I envisioned the possible torture in store for some patients. As I indicated earlier, patient non-compliance was a fairly common drawback with Haldol treatment. The side effects of neuroleptic drugs can be absolutely unbearable.

As a hospital rep, I would frequently see institutionalized patients pacing frantically back and forth in waiting rooms, hallways, and outside in foyers. Some would literally wear the soles off of their house shoes. Others would fall sound asleep prostrate on the ground, wherever they were when the drug’s sedative effects hit. Patients frequently drooled, sat staring into space, experienced facial grimacing, or continually made pill-rolling motions between their thumbs and forefingers. I soon realized many of the bizarre behaviors and movements I had previously identified with schizophrenia and other mental illness were entirely the fault of the medications the patients were taking. They were not a manifestation of these disorders."

Iwanttorecover1 wrote: moral ethics

Nuremberg Code

"This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion"

http://www.ushmm.org/information/exhibi ... mberg-code

I saw the peggy video, I don't think there is any soul living in that body let alone ethics.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:before I was to leave the hospital that she was giving me a long lasting shot of halidol.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:drawback with Haldol treatment. The side effects of neuroleptic drugs can be absolutely unbearable.

"long lasting shot" So you cant even stop taking it or get it out of your body no matter the suffering or even if its killing you.

“Primum non nocere” – which means “First, do no harm.” Some of these monsters posing as doctors. I don't even know what to write anymore this is so horrible.

I hope you are alright. So horrific. I need to log out and do "activities of daily living" and I am *triggered*

This abuse no torture they sell as "help" needs to stop.

In a statement to a session of the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva on March 4, the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment of Punishment called for a ban on forced psychiatric interventions including forced drugging, shock, psychosurgery, restraint and seclusion, and for repeal of laws that allow compulsory mental health treatment and deprivation of liberty based on disability, including when it is motivated by "protection of the person or others." http://www.madinamerica.com/wp-content/ ... orture.pdf

Hope you are alright. Be back later.

Soviet psychiatric drug for dissidents given to US patients Feb
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by Jon Rappoport
Soviet psychiatric drug for dissidents given to US patients

by Jon Rappoport

February 1, 2014

www.nomorefakenews.com

It’s called Haldol. The generic name is haloperidol.

It’s classified as an “anti-psychotic.”

You’ll read that Haldol is being phased out in the US, but “PM: The Essential Resource for Pharma Marketers” reports that Haldol accounts for 5% of anti-psychotic prescriptions handed out between 2010 and 2011.

That’s 2.7 million prescriptions for Haldol. In one year, in the US.

The major and frequent adverse effects of the drug? Akathisia (the irresistible and painful impulse to keep moving, the inability to sit still), dystonia (severe muscle contractions that twist the body grotesquely), and Parkinsonism.

In short, torture.

All three of these effects can indicate motor brain damage.

Here is a quote from a news-medical.net article, “Haloperidol—What Is Haloperidol?”:

“There are multiple reports from Soviet dissidents, including medical staff, on the use of haloperidol in the Soviet Union for punitive purposes or simply to break the prisoners’ will. Notable dissidents that were administered haloperidol as part of their court ordered treatment were Sergei Kovalev and Leonid Plyushch.”

From the same article, there is this blockbuster statement:

“Haloperidol has been used for its sedating effects during the deportations of aliens by the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). During 2002-2008, federal immigration personnel used haloperidol to sedate 356 deportees. By 2008, follow[ing] court challenges over the practice, haloperidol was given to only 3 detainees. Following lawsuits, U.S. officials changed the procedure so that it is done only by the recommendation of medical personnel and under court order.”

The Matrix Revealed

In his landmark book, Toxic Psychiatry, Dr. Peter Breggin quotes Leonid Plyushch, a scientist and political dissenter in the USSR, who escaped to the US: “[In a Soviet prison, after dosing with a small amount of Haldol] I was horrified to see how I deteriorated intellectually, morally and emotionally from day to day. My interest in political problems quickly disappeared, then my interest in scientific problems, and then my interest in my wife and children.”

In the 1960s and 70s, Haldol was given to “angry black men” in America, after laying on the justification that they were suffering from schizophrenia.

Here is a quote from the 2012 edition of Virtual Mentor, the American Medical Association Journal of Ethics. It concerns a pharmaceutical ad that ran in the May 1974 issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry:

“…in the ad, an angry African American man shakes his fist menacingly…the text above the image…’Assaultive and belligerent?’ ‘Cooperation often begins with Haldol.’”

Yes it does. Cooperation begins with the the torture delivered by Haldol.

Warning! Do not try to withdraw from Haldol or any psychiatric drug without proper guidance. The effects of the withdrawal can be more dangerous than the drug’s effects. See, for example, the work of Dr. Peter Breggin and his advice on withdrawal, at www.breggin.com

“…in the disputes between the East and West concerning the Russian opponents of the Soviet regime… [m]any dissidents went to lunatic asylums and were treated as mentally sick. Western doctors and the press accused Soviet doctors of being blind instruments of the regime and of having broken the solemn oath of their calling. The Russian doctors thought the West had gone mad in reproaching their behavior. For them, anyone who opposed such an efficient police power must be mentally disturbed. In their view, only those who had what Seneca called Libido morienti (the death wish) would dare to provoke the State. The Russian doctors were convinced that they were undertaking a humanitarian mission by placing the opponents of the regime in asylums and thereby reducing their aggression–the only hope for their survival. To reduce the outstanding to mediocrity was always a medical and human duty in a state where mediocrity had the better chance of survival.” — “Man: The Fallen Ape” by Branko Bokun
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014 ... -patients/

For the first time in about 3 months I decided to try reading a novel. I thought that since I had been reading forums, articles for short periods I could try it(even with the concentration/motivation/blurriness/other "problem" I don't even have a way to describe that's been there since halidol). I have always loved classics. I never thought they were hard or boring before halidol...I had read 2 Dostoyevsky books bh(before haldidol). I saw Notes from a Dead House and thought it looked interesting...It's about Dostoyevsky's time in a Siberian prison.
Concentration was difficult like always since h but I read about 30 pages. I felt a little bit of that enjoyment and escape I'd felt since I was 5 years old. I could imagine the characters... I saw a quote which seemed to have parallels to my own life "Man is a creature who can get used to anything, and I believe that is the very best way of defining him." It made me think of how I'd wake up in the morning feeling brain damaged the first months out of the hospital and all I'd immediately think about is how I could kill myself and end this nightmare but now I've almost "gotten used to it."
I watched that Eddie Murphy mark twain award thing on PBS and laughed and felt fine before I went to sleep.
The next day I woke up and immediately felt strange. It felt like I couldn't think anymore like words weren't even coming into my brain the right way. I was thinking of something and tried to think of the word "symmetrical"(a word I've probably known since I was 7 years old learning about the symmetry of butterflies) and my mind was drawing a blank for at least 15 minutes. I just sat there going through the alphabet and vowels.... I tried looking at the computer and the stupid entertainment forum I go to everyday and the "blurry" feeling was awful. I couldn't read anymore. It sounds ridiculous to say this but it's like all that work my brain had been doing reading the novel had "shut down" everything.
I know that halidol destroys dopamine receptors in the frontal lobe so is it because the dopamine was all "used up" or can't replenish itself anymore?
I have been enjoying movies again sometimes since getting off the trazadone. I thought Spy was hilarious for some reason and laughed a couple times.
My relationship with my "sane" "loving" mother deteriorates everyday. I read this article https://www.madinamerica.com/2014/10/wh ... -doorstep/ about a young man who's life was destroyed when his mother decided to invent stories about his "mental illness" for attention. He referred to it as Munchhausen Syndrome and reading it kind of brought up alot of the things I've realized about my mother and her endless quest for my "diagnosis" she's been obsessing about for the past 11 years or so. She seems enraged with the idea that I'm depressed and that's the only diagnosis I've been given by my therapist(the same therapist who no longer returns her daily rambling voicemails). She says that she must be "hiding" my real diagnosis. One day she drove me to the hospital..."Go and tell them you're not talking. Write down on a piece of paper that you're a deaf mute. You have psychotic mutism." She's told me "I liked it when you were out of the hospital and crying. At least you had feelings." I told her coming off of Serequol that it felt like my emotions were gone....Months later she now uses that as an insult to taunt me"You never had any emotions."
She's also told me to stop moving her earrings around and that it's "scaring her" and she asked me if I was doing "voo doo" against her. If I was a psychiatrist I would say this is my mother's untreated mental illness. But as the cop reminded me when I told him that my mother was paranoid and mentally ill, I have no right to say that about her since she has no "diagnosis" and everyone knows that saintly mothers of mentally ill children have only their best interests at heart(sarcasm).
I told her about the pain in my heart ( http://psychcentral.com/news/2007/09/20 ... /1316.html) and she told me that it must be "indigestion" or "something I read." I mentioned it 2 days later and she complained that "I was bumming her out with all the doom and gloom."
But I am stuck with her..Either this or getting hypothermia on the streets. Or killing myself. I can't get a job, she's made sure of that by screaming at my boss and getting me fired...Telling me that I can't work, destroying my self esteem, getting me into this stupid "job corps" program that left me dependent/no job and with a giant hole in my resume.
I'm sure the psychiatric industry would collapse without people like my mother...

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:If anyone has any experience with halidol please respond.

Haldol is a difficult drug to function on. I was put on this drug while I was involuntarily committed and it made me a zombie while I was hospitalized.

When I got out of the hospital, I took this drug while I was out drinking one night.
Side-note: I love to get high, so I even tried to abuse Haldol.

Calling it a living nightmare is exactly how I would describe it.

I don't remember what happened that night... but another time I took a final for a psychology class on Haldol and it felt like I was dreaming. I didn't recognize anyone in my class, I was paranoid, dizzy, foggy, could barely hold my pencil. I scribbled as many answers as I could then got the &*^% out of there!

I went out to dinner with my boyfriend and I was so paranoid, it's like I was in a different dimension. He said, "Did you take your medicine?"

Haha man !@#$ Haldol!

I got off of that crap and the paranoia went away. I am with you- the "anti-psychotic" made me psychotic!