Halidol nightmare *triggers*

I'm glad you told me about the zoloft....I don't want anymore drugs but the suicidal thoughts are relentless. I think I am going to shoot myself soon.
I wasn't suicidal before halidol and now it's all I think about.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:I'm glad you told me about the zoloft....I don't want anymore drugs but the suicidal thoughts are relentless. I think I am going to shoot myself soon.
I wasn't suicidal before halidol and now it's all I think about.

If you think you are going to get back at them with suicide your wrong. They never accept responsibility. They instead like to use suicides as a reason to justify more force and coercion in psychiatry.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:The ruminations about the hospital are endless and nonstop. I wish I could stop thinking about it but it seems my brain wants to go over it every day all day.

Did you know that suicide risk is greatest after discharge from the hospital ?


Of the suicides, 12% occurred in the first postdischarge week, 43% in the first month, and 72% within 2 months. Nearly half of those dying in the first month had not yet attended a follow-up appointment. Risk factors for suicide included a history of self-harm, recent suicidal ideation, patient-initiated discharge, a diagnosis of affective disorder, male sex, mental-health contact in the previous week, missed last appointment, and psychiatric comorbidity. Patients who died were less likely than controls to have been involuntarily detained and to be enrolled in enhanced aftercare. The two groups did not differ in age, number of prior admissions, length of stay, history of violence or substance misuse, or medication nonadherence. - See more at: http://www.jwatch.org/jp200905110000001 ... talization


Or just google suicide risk after hospitalization


If hospitalization were actually effective in "treating" suicidality, wouldn't we expect the suicide rate to be quite low after a hospitalization?


I think the alternative hypothesis needs to be considered: that hospitalization is so horrible, demeaning, and above all ineffective, that it does nothing to prevent suicides and may actually increase one's resolve in that direction. Far from showing caring and compassion, forced psychiatric hospitalization demonstrates to the patient things are hopeless.


Above is copy paste slightly modified from here http://theviewfromhell.blogspot.com/200 ... after.html

I am a "copy cat" its so much easier to just find what I was going to say anyway and then just copy paste it in instead of writing it all out.

So I guess what I am trying to point out is that it is normal to feel suicidal after hospitalization and you are not alone with that.

You may want to try some of psychiatry's drugs. They do make some people feel better. Anti psychiatry is not an anti drug crusade or a "war on drugs". Its about making them give full informed consent regarding the medical legitimacy of psychiatric diagnosis, the right to be told the risks of psychiatric treatments, the right to all available medical alternatives and the right to refuse any treatment considered harmful.

I'm thinking of calling Keller and Keller and seeing if I have some case against Presbyterian/Peggy(Hill) the psychiatrist. I think there were enough fabrications on her part(diagnosing me after one day and not one conversation where I said I was seeing things that weren't there,her delusions about me "seeing people in the tv" because I was watching old movies all day, not telling me about the withdrawal, accusing me of trying to kill my mother(slander), an email from her where she confuses the word tardive dyskenesia with akathasia(meaning she might not know or care what those things are) and a phone call from the hospital director saying akathasia is a "Symptom of psychosis." Even if I lose I'd enjoy seeing Peggy's ugly little pinched up rat face in a court room. If I win maybe they'll stop giving halidol at that hospital and peggy can get fired and find her true calling as one of those psychiatrists that come up with torture methods at guantanamo. Maybe it'll be the one good thing I do in my life before I kill myself.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:I'm thinking of calling Keller and Keller and seeing if I have some case against ...

You want to get even with them ?


Go here http://www.pissedconsumer.com/


Put the doctor and hospital name in the title so it comes up on google searches.


Don't write when you are angry and keep it very simple.


Example: I was having a rough time in my life and came under the care of (doctor name goes here) in (hospital name goes here).


"The next day I have my first interaction with a woman named Dr .... We discuss the fight with my mother and regrettably I curse at her as she's leaving the room. I continue reading the book from the lobby and the nightmare starts that night. A nurse comes in with a security guard and tells me I need to take a drug called halidol. I do not want to take this drug but I'm told I'll be injected with it if I refuse so I do."


They never gave me informed consent, I was not informed of any of my rights as a patient including the right to refuse this dangerous drug.

They broke the law coercing me. Making threats.


"(9) “Express and informed consent” means consent voluntarily given in writing, by a competent person, after sufficient explanation and disclosure of the subject matter involved to enable the person to make a knowing and willful decision without any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, or other form of constraint or coercion. " http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ind ... /0394.html


If you want to do this I will help .



I know that feeling after getting abused in the hospital where you want to hold them accountable but it seems impossible.

What happens is when you write one of these complaints other people see it and write there own and very quickly the doctors online reputation is ruined. Families see these complaints and now believe their loved ones and take action too.


Here is something else that can be done.



"Complaint information about JCI-accredited organizations is used to strengthen the oversight activities of JCI and improve the quality of care and safety of patients in accredited facilities. JCI will address all complaints that relate to issues within the scope of the international standards to determine whether they raise any credible suggestion of failure to comply with standards. These include issues such as patient rights, care of patients, safety, infection control, medication use, and security."


http://www.jointcommissioninternational.org/contact-us/report-a-quality-and-safety-issue/


There is stuff you can do to hold them accountable.



Write your complaint here on this thread before posting it on pissed consumer so we can make it look good. Everyone on the forum can help.


Then it can be posted on pissed consumer and can also be used as the complaint for the joint commission who by law have to follow up.


So get started writing the complaint.

I have to get off the computer right now but when I come back I will try to paste together a complaint from your first post and then post it for you to look at and add or take stuff out if you want.

Then its fun to post it and watch complaints from other people come up and the doctor and hospital reputation go down the toilet.

Its works well as long as you don't write the first complaint all angry making it look as if you "needed" the treatment.


Type to you later.

-- Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:42 pm --

They say "the pen is mightier than the sword" ...


Pens ? Well now we have keyboards and the internet... lol

This is how I worded the complaint...

This complaint is in regards to Caseman Presbyterian Hospital in Albuquerque New Mexico and it's employee Peggy Rodriguez. This hospital has only 1 psychiatrist for it's entire inpatient ward(up to 30 people). This woman spoke to me no more than 5 minutes the first morning I was there before "diagnosing" me with Schizophrenia. At no point in my 2 week stay at this hospital did I tell Peggy Rodriguez that I heard voices or had hallucinations. She decided for me without any input from her patient that I had schizophrenia because on the first day I was there I was thinking out loud in my room for a couple seconds because I was in a profound state of distress and had no one to speak to. The way this woman "treated" me is by giving me a 50 year old drug that 28 studies have shown to cause permanent brain damage http://www.currentpsychiatry.com/topics ... anned.html
When this woman finally told me after a week that she believed I was schizophrenic I told her that this was untrue and that I did not and never did believe that there were "people in the room." She did not ask any followup questions about this and left the room after 5 minutes. The next day at my "trial" to be released she continued the lie that I was schizophrenic. This time she came up with a new theory, that I "believed three were people in the tv." I have no idea where she came up with this but it certainly wasn't based on anything I said to her in our 5 minute morning chats. It's true that I was watching tv, since there was nothing else to do all day. I wasn't talking out loud to the tv and wasn't doing anything but quietly watching tv shows and old movies. Is this how psychiatrists are supposed to "treat" their patients? Just make up stories to support their diagnosis" so they don't look incompetent and have to admit they've made a mistake? She also brought up an argument I had at a homeless shelter with a woman who was harassing me which led to me deciding to leave for the sake of my safety. She was not there for that argument and it certainly isn't evidence of psychosis or schizophrenia and she didn't speak to me about this incident for more than a couple seconds the first day I was there.
After being given this drug I was unable to speak coherently or read. I experienced extreme states of anxiety and panic attacks and aphasia(pacing) and had pain my legs and was unable to stand in one place for more than a couple seconds. Not once did Peggy Rodriguez ask me about any symptoms I was experiencing from this drug. Not once did she tell me about the symptoms I would experience from the drug when I left the hospital. Since stopping this drug I experienced uncontrollable aphasia that the director of this hospital told me was a "symptom of psychosis" and that there was no negative effects of halidol or a withdrawal period.
After telling this woman every day for 2 weeks that I did not have hallucinations or delusions she told me on the day before I was to leave the hospital that she was giving me a long lasting shot of halidol. I told her I did not want this and that I was asking my mother(my treatment guardian) to not allow this. This enraged her enough that she wrote in my medical records that my mother was mentally ill. She told me that she believed my mother might "be the one with schizophrenia." When my mother found out about this she complained and it was removed. She also decided to change the fight that led to my mother calling the police where I slapped her on the back 2 times and then quickly left the house into the lie that I had "tried to murder her." Is this another fabrication from Peggy to excuse giving me halidol? Are psychiatrists allowed to invent their own version of reality? My mother complained to the hospital about this lie multiple times. She told them to look at the police record which said I was completely calm and didn't try to "murder" anyone. The way the hospital dealt with this was to have a meeting with Peggy Rodriguez that my mother or me was not allowed to attend. They then decided that this lie would be allowed to stay in my medical records but they would include my mother's complaints.
I have been off this drug for months. I have extreme depression that I did not have before entering the hospital. I have tardive dyksenisa, headaches, vision problems, leg pains, and severe anhedonia and a loss of my emotions. I also have pains in my heart that I believe might be a heart irregularity caused by halidol. There are people who have died from heart failure on halidol. I was a healthy 25 year old woman with my whole life ahead of me before this drug. I had gone to college and was looking for employment. I was forced to live with my mother who is severely physically and mentally abusive. I was treated with unbelievable inhumanity by a woman who is supposed to "heal" people in a way that causes the least harm. Why was I given an anti psychotic on the first day I was there instead of actually having a conversation with someone so I could explain my actual state of mind? Why was I given a 50 year old drug with nightmarish side effects that most intelligent psychiatrists who care about their patients well being think should be banned? Why wasn't I at least given the newest generation of safer drugs like Serequol? Because those drugs are too expensive? Because my life/mental well being is worthless?
I believe this woman Peggy Rodriguez is a profoundly dangerous woman who is incompetent and willing to hide her incompetency with lies. On a grander scale the way this hospital is run(1 psychiatrist, never speaking to the patients for more than a couple minutes, giving patients dangerous half a century old drugs because they're dirt cheap) is also part of the problem.


Alot of bizarre things have been going on with my brain in the past couple of weeks....I came home from a meeting with my psychiatrist and felt the "pressure" I felt in the first weeks out of the hospital except this time it was 10 times worse. It felt like I was having a stroke/seizure. Maybe it was something like that. I know that halidol can cause both of those symptoms...I started uncontrollably blinking, my visions started getting blurry, when I looked at an article I had saved n my computer I couldn't comprehend what I was reading and the words were swimming around. I felt the "wetness" in my head I'd felt before and zapping sounds of "electricity." I woke up in the morning and the "random thoughts" thing I've been having since halidol was worse than it's ever been...just random words popping in my head for no logical reason that I could control...
I go to google and put in trazadone blinking and what do you know, it can lead to that if you have taken drugs for schizophrenia.
So, I stop taking the trazadone....Since then the blinking isn't as bad and my tongue isn't shooting out of my mouth like it was for a couple days..but I now have an extreme kind of anhedonia that is actually worse than it was when I got out of the hospital. I can't sit through a tv show or movie or read something without wanting to turn it off after a couple seconds. My emotions are dead again after feeling like they were coming back. I don't know if this is getting off the trazadone or the "stroke" or both.
Tried the zoloft once...felt a "feeling" for about half an hour and then it passed... My lip started moving back and forth so it seems that all ssi's excarbate the tardive dyskensia..
I'm also having disturbing awful nightmares since stopping the trazadone and sleeping problems.
Life does not seem livable..
Got a form letter from keller and keller saying they won't take my case...The hospital had a "meeting" to discuss my mother's complaints about Peggy's lie about my "attempted murder." They didn't remove the lie but my medical record now has my mother's complaint.
Had a meeting with a neurologist...he ignored me and spoke to my mother. Refused to read the article I printed for him about halidol. I felt too much anhedonia to bother arguing with him. But at least he made me draw a clock and made sure my reflexes are normal. Another medicaid check he can use to pay for his mansion...
Gave the article http://www.currentpsychiatry.com/topics ... anned.html to my psychiatrist and she also refused to look at it but she did tell me "plenty of people think halidol should be banned." What a strange change of mind form her earlier "halidol has no negative symptoms" stance.
She's ordered blood tests for the zoloft I'm not taking to make sure my liver is healthy. I might have a heart irregularity from halidol but she's worried about my liver. Psychiatry is one bizarre little industry.....

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:a 50 year old drug that 28 studies have shown to cause permanent brain damage http://www.currentpsychiatry.com/topics ... anned.html

Bingo! 50 years ago brain damage inflicted by physical cuts into the brain was replaced by a pill inflicting the same brain damage more covertly. Brain damage for masses! Rodriguez is a psychopath whose job is to damage innocent people's brains every day of her career. She does it when somebody complains about you, or when you complain about yourself. She is a narcissistic sociopath, and like other sociopaths she cannot feel any guilt, shame, or conscience. She blames her victims for whatever happens to them due to her actions.

Every psychiatrist who has that job is a psychopath. Very charming, very good at seducing you by talking about help, and once you start questioning anything the narcissistic sociopath puts her mask down and unleashes the true narcissistic sociopathic personality full of hatred, abuse, manipulation, cunning and ruthless brain damage via pill for everyone.

After everybody lets you down, do what I do. Find on google how to be a sociopath, how to be a narcissist, read the book Confession of a Socipath, google how to be manipulative, google how to abuse someone, google how to be intimidating, how to dominate someone, how to persuade someone, etc.

That is real knowledge the psychopath has as a leverage against you to do anything she wants. One more thing: we live in an unjust, unfair, cold world manipulated by narcissistic sociopaths. The only way to defend and do what you want is to learn what they have learn, and be more cunning, more manipulative, more ruthless.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:This is how I worded the complaint...

Thats really good.

I am really tired right now and cant read or type well but after tonight's sleep then coffee wake up I will be back. This crap psychiatry sells as help really needs to be exposed.

My hospital stay was a nightmare too, ya I was bugged out from stress and just needed and was hoping for a chance to regroup in a safe place but instead I got the same sort of psych nightmare that gave me a ton more stress that made me more bugged out with anxiety unable to relax and angry and that was used as proof I was sick and needed to be disabled with drugs even more.

and that doctor knew that injection threat really really upset me and did not care at all cause his ego got hurt when I said that the disabling pill treatment was wrong for me.

Here was something I was thinking to add,

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:This woman spoke to me no more than 5 minutes the first morning

and does it again,

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:She did not ask any followup questions about this and left the room after 5 minutes.

They don't see anyone for free , did she bill for an hour ? Some people call this the $100 handshake.
I would add that question after the part about where she talks to you for 5 minutes.And why not ask for an itemized bill ?

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:Another medicaid check

Anyone suspecting Medicaid fraud, waste, or abuse is encouraged to report it. The first touch point should be the Program Integrity contact in the State Medicaid Agency for your individual state. It includes the contact information for the State Medicaid Agencies (SMA), and the Medicaid Fraud Control Units (MFCU). Another reporting option is to visit CMS' State Contacts Database which requires entering the State, Contact Type, and Organization Type. Lastly, the Office of Inspector General's (OIG) National Fraud Hotline is:

Stop Fraud words Dial: 1-800-HHS-TIPS (1-800-447-8477)

To facilitate expeditious investigation of the alleged fraud, it is helpful to have as much information as possible. Pertinent information includes:

Name of Medicaid client
Client's Medicaid card number
Name of doctor, hospital, or other healthcare provider
Date of service
Amount of money Medicaid approved and/or paid; and
A description of the acts that you suspect involve fraud

https://www.cms.gov/medicare-medicaid-coordination/fraud-prevention/fraudabuseforconsumers/report_fraud_and_suspected_fraud.html

Fighting Fraud Can Pay

You may be eligible for a reward of up to $1,000 if you meet the following conditions:

listed here >> https://www.stopmedicarefraud.gov/reportfraud/

Now I am thinking of something I read on a how to get revenge website ,

"I also emphasize that one should wait a while before doing anything, as the old adage that "revenge is a dish best served cold" is very wise." Doing anything here means posting on pissed consumer or http://www.ripoffreport.com just yet.

I don't know how you do things but a mistake i make is going into battle before I am ready and messing it up.These hospital doctors are arrogant assholes who think they can do anything they want because:

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:Got a form letter from keller and keller saying they won't take my case...

These doctors have heard it 100 times "I a going to sue you" but it rarely happens. This causes many get more careless and reckless and make mistakes. Is one of those mistakes fraudulent medicare billing ? We need to find out these things. A trip to federal prison for this "doctor" would be a nice ending to this story. Would it be justice ? The sad part is people in federal prison get treated better that many people subjected to "treatment" behind psychiatric locked doors because of the ban on "cruel and unusual punishments" like the Haldol nightmare psychiatry calls treatment.

Of course posting all this on the consumer complaint sites could cause other victims to get their medial records and itemized bills and fight back and that could get the job done all by itself.

So for now I would add to the complaint: Did this doctor bill for an hour for those 5 minutes ?

Iwanttorecover1 wrote: led to my mother calling the police

This needs to be changed to something like "my mother called the police because she was lead to believe this is how she could get me help from psychiatry but instead I got this awful nightmare"

That's the truth, mothers call the police to get their children help not the wicked nightmare psychiatry dishes out.Connecting with mothers who may read the complaint is very important. So many people come out of the hospital hating their families for subjecting them to the nightmare.

Iwanttorecover1 wrote:The next day at my "trial" to be released she continued the lie that I was schizophrenic.

Of course, the "diagnosis" DSM Diagnose as a Source of Money.

Very difficult to fight that, its an opinion not based on science or any medical tests.

But what if you are, what if I am ? Is their a law that says anyone diagnosed (convicted) of schizophrenia is to be locked up and can tortured with evil drugs like Haldol ? Does it mean its just a free for all to inflict any treatment they want no matter how painful and damaging ? NO.

If the diagnosis is right or wrong it does not matter one bit. Everyone has God given human rights.

"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"

"You can no longer edit or delete that post."


OOps I wasnt done with above post but I am totally mentally fatigued from writing anyway.
I will be back.