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Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

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Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby callmespitfire » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:53 am

One day I sat in my room, I stumbled upon Descartes famous saying; 'I think therefore I am', Upon reading into this, I decided to try testing my own hold of reality by questioning every assumption in a meditative manner; Why this thought? Why that one? Why do I think? Why not just accept that I do not truly know anything. To claim to truly know something is to disregard a lack of fundamental understanding of said thing.
I've always been a bit odd, I have always felt like I can understand things very easily, I am a fast learner. Why odd? you might ask. Oh yeah, the 'bad' thought, you see once I thought I had Asperger's, perhaps that's why I feel so $#%^ all the time, perhaps that's why no one could feel my pain.
Mental illness? What is a mental Illness? A label for something someone does wrong? This makes me angry you see, our reality is built on language and the second you label yourself with a word you become that word.
Here's the logic through and through;

"Hey Dr, my son has $#%^ handwriting"
"ehem, well he's dyslexic" problem solved...
"Hey Johnny, Why can't you learn to write?"
"It's okay, I'm dyslexic..."

I do not doubt that someone might lack the ability to write but we live in a world where labels are flung around as a way to 'solve problems'. Perhaps little Johnny just needed practice. See, what we forget is that our bodies come first, thoughts are second best.

So I hold some controversial opinions and I am being legally forced to take olanzapine because I apparently cannot see my own problem. We live in a society where we have to 'pay' for our emotions. Hello lying ######6 psychiatrist, how much would it cost me to have you convince me the world isn't going to the dogs?
Why is it that people feel like their problems are for paid psychiatrists, isn't that what friends are for?

Here is the biggest lie that ruins lives.
Depression is a chemical imbalance, it's genetic.

You have depression because you aren't happy with something, someone might just be screwing you over, here buy some anti depressants...

See it's not that I don't empathise with people it's that I see sadness everywhere I look and I feel it so strongly that it cripples me socially, we're all scared of our own problems. Scared to talk to one an other about real issues. Too deep? Where's the asshole who said that?

I am scared because I am being legally forced to take drugs that will destroy my mind and I am very ######6 angry about it. Angry? You must be psychotic, here take more...
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:53 pm

callmespitfire wrote: I am being legally forced to take drugs


Here is the Mindfreedom Forced Drugging Defense Package
http://www.mindfreedom.org/campaign/shield/forced-drug-defense-pkg/defense-package


How exactly are they forcing you to take the stuff ?


I know all about inside the hospital after I had a nervous breakdown , did a ton of drinking , went to the ER asking for help with detoxification, got admitted to psych, strip search and all, and then lived the inpatient psychiatry drug coercion nightmare.

callmespitfire wrote:angry about it. Angry? You must be psychotic, here take more...


Exactly, I said that's too much drugs and that dose would make me feel horrible no thanks, they respond with the standard threats of injection they use on almost everyone who refuses, I get angry that someone just threatened me with an assault and to violate my body with a needle and drugs (rape) therefor I am "psychotic" and 'need' drugs.

Medical "professionals" making threats of violence, how pathetic is that ?

On my medical records my reaction to the threats of violence and rape by needle is simply charted as "speech is rapid" and "agitation" with no mention of them making threats at me and my concerns about the effects of their drugs on my health.

I am still curious on how they are legally forcing you to take drugs, and how that works so that way maybe me and others in this forum can help you fight it.

Also I have read posts in these forums by people who just thought they were legally being forced to take drugs but they were really just being lied too.
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby callmespitfire » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:09 am

Hey, thanks for the reply.
I ended up in a psych ward for realising that people where selling their emotions. I tried starting conversations with a few random people. Walked into a shop and told a closet gay person it was okay to be gay and told off another person for acting aggressively towards me for confronting the guy. It's that kind of attitude that makes people scared. I was only trying to help. I was acting differently, only because I had done the meditation thing and realised how invisible a person can be to the world. I got excited because I felt rid of my anxieties.
So the police ended up at my house and told me I was acting psychotic, stuck hand cuffs on me and took me to a psych ward.
The psych patients where fascinating all geniuses in their own right, I had a few philosophical discussions about space time, reality and alternate realities, others where messed up from drugs.
So the doctors came and told me I appeared stressed and told me to calm down. I was excited not stressed.
Then the meds came, they expected me to ingest random antipsychotic tablets that I thought might harm me, I do not like taking drugs for I like my mind.
It wasn't even about the drugs so much, it was the fact that they where forcing me under 'the mental health act'. I got furious and then I got scared, they threatened to give me an injection. They told me I wasn't thinking right, that there was something wrong with me. I gestured to myself, a comfortable healthy 20 year old guy.
Then security came and I ran. They grabbed me. Now I didn't trust them. Coupled with my phobia of needles and drugs and being forced to take something against my own will I shrieked, panic attack, I thought they where going to kill me to silence me. They pinned me down on a bed and stuck a needle in my ass. Then they threw me in a cell with a mattress on the floor.
I knew peoples rights where being taken away, I knew people where being forced medications under the mental health act, I knew people where being lied to.
If you tell someone they are insane enough times, they will believe it.
I am in Melbourne.
I have been placed on a legal order to take olanzapine. Every day I am visited to make sure that I take the drugs otherwise I will be locked up again.
I am trying to fight it but fighting for your own free will makes you psychotic.
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby Riccola » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:45 pm

Unless you were in immediate danger of severe self harm or harm to others I dont think anything should have been done. Talking is not a crime, and I see nothing wrong about having a conversation regarding space time. Ive seen much worse take place in public.



I would use what ever legal resources to fight this. Free speech is not a crime in most countries, and its clear what ever treatment you are getting is doing more harm then good. Whether you struggle with something is imo not even relevant. Everyone has the right to be treated with respect and everyone has the right to decide what is best for them. In so far I see nothing that says you are not aware of whats going on or incapable of making a choice.


Please stay safe and use the system to legally get something that works for you. :)
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:42 pm

callmespitfire wrote:I am in Melbourne.


Australian Links https://mindfreedomaustralia.wordpress.com/links/
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:44 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
callmespitfire wrote:I am in Melbourne.


Australian Links https://mindfreedomaustralia.wordpress.com/links/



I hope you find some people to help you out, I don't know how Australian law works and am on the other side of the planet.
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Re: Being legally forced to take anti psychotics

Postby jakepicard » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:24 am

I don't even know where to begin here. First the things you did does sound pretty crazy to me. Tell a closet gay person to come out and it's okay to be gay? What right do you have to tell him anything about his sexuality? He has a right to stay a closet gay as much as he has a right to be open gay. You cannot make that choice for him. Maybe you should have just left him alone. Why would you even care if he is gay or not? Not all gays like being open about it.

There must be something a lot more to what you did because something like that is not going to get you forced to take anti psychs. I know a lot of people who have done much worse and were never forced to take any drug.

***Mod edit*** I have been on and off many different kinds of drugs for years. None of them had any permanent effects. I notice when I take them like prescribed that I am more functional compared to if I don't take them. Certain street drugs can destroy your mind. Prescription drugs are a lot safer than people think if taken properly. Just try to relax and let things go more. cooperate with the psych. You can really even just fake that you feel better now and want to try slowly going off the meds.
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