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Re: molested by psychiatry

Postby quackery » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:10 pm

Alucard wrote:
quackery wrote:
Alucard wrote:That's seriously horrifying, and I'm sorry you have to suffer because of taking something that was supposed to "help". It's disgusting, really.


It was NOT supposed to help. It was supposed to disable. Antipsychotics do not have any antipsychotic effect. They disable by disrupting brain function. They are toxic poisons that are given to you in a sufficiently high dose to cripple you, make you feel like sh*t, make you unable to fight anyone verbally or physically, make you unable to do things you would normally do (such as push ups or running, or anything similar). And they do damage your heart very severly while you are gasping for air and cannot even breath, all your muscles are stiff, blood circulation affected by this poison, brain affected by the poison, all messed up.

The BS about help is only a rhetoric. The reality is they abuses his human rights and caused damage. As well, they sold him a lie that he is ill and they sold others a lie that people can be ill from their head. What a BS! They are saying it using rhetoric. They forgot to prove it! Corrupted bastards. They only follow the money, sell out useless crippling drugs manufactured for profit by the big pharma drug cartel, and they are extremely well paid while also exercising power and becoming filthy rich/corrupt.


I agree with a lot of this. Although not everyone reacts the same to all these medications. Of course the industry is corrupted, they're a business . . . run by humans . . . I mean, what can anyone say to defend that. But some people respond positively and that can't be denied. Some. Right now medication isn't the problem, the problem is considering people's symptoms as wrong and wanting to make them "normal". If that wasn't such a hallmark of society we wouldn't be shoving pills down people's throats. What I think happened to him is horrible. I agree the medication did more harm than it would ever do good and pretty much all of them do that. But I also think this is the number one reason why the general public should be informed about the dangerous side effects and potentially fatal side effects; so they can refuse them when the time comes. We won't be able to change the doctors, but we can change the education. Blame is pointless; i'd rather focus on solutions.


I dare to say NOBODY has ever been helped by these disabling drugs, and nobody ever will be. Those who say they have been helped have been made by their charlatans to believe that. They are like brainwashed. They would have overcome their problem without any drugs as well. Just because they have overcome their problem does not mean the drugs were any good. The quacks made it look like the drugs are some magic potion you take and your problems are gone. It is vice versa, you take that sh*t and your life is destroyed.

I also dare to say the drugs have the exactly same effect on everybody, and that they are as I said disrupting brain function and disabling the person as their only effect. No other effect of those drugs exists.

Therefore, I propose, people can be made to believe some disabling drug helped them overcome their problem. There is no evidence any drug has ever helped anyone to overcome his or her problem though. What evidence do you have to push those drugs apart from claims falsified by corrupt charlatans to make their drug money?

It is nothing but corruption, the entire field of medicine is non-existent, only causing damage and writing false medical claims. Nobody has ever been helped by any drug, and those who say they were are wrong, they were made to believe it was the drug when in reality it wasn't and they would have overcome their problem without it, probably even much faster.
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Re: molested by psychiatry

Postby Alucard » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:24 am

I dare to say NOBODY has ever been helped by these disabling drugs, and nobody ever will be
. You ask me for evidence to how people are helped and not just taken advantage of by corrupted people, and I ask for evidence of nobody ever being helped in anyway possible, because saying nobody has ever been helped is a really bold claim. It's just as bold of a claim as the pharmaceutical company saying all their drugs work. People who are stuck in perpetual psychosis, who never see a moment of lucidity, do get a little help coming out of that with medication, just so they can think rationally, and I'm not talking about the people who are abused with over-medication or forced medication, i'm talking about the people who want that kind of help who get a proper psychiatrist who give them a proper dosage and listen to their concerns. That doesn't mean the drugs are good for them or good for their body in any way it all. Some people prefer to live with their issues active without medication (such as myself) and there are others who feel they are helped by the drugs. It's not anyone's right to tell them they're not, even if they are delusional. Just because the system is corrupt doesn't mean every person inside the system is. Not every person is greedy. We've all been screwed over by psychiatry and medicine at least onec. It's run by humans, of course there's going to be issues. And If no one gains power and stands up to their ignorance and push them out from the inside, then people will continue getting screwed over at an alarming rate. Sitting and ranting doesn't solve anything.
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Re: molested by psychiatry

Postby quackery » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:01 pm

Alucard wrote:
I dare to say NOBODY has ever been helped by these disabling drugs, and nobody ever will be
. You ask me for evidence to how people are helped and not just taken advantage of by corrupted people, and I ask for evidence of nobody ever being helped in anyway possible, because saying nobody has ever been helped is a really bold claim.


In science, the onus is up to you to prove that something works. You have not convinced me. That means NOBODY has ever been helped by these disabling drugs. Psychs made their drug money by selling the drugs, and by manipulating people to believe that anything negative is due to a non-existent illness and anything positive is due to a toxic, poisonous and disabling drug. Charlatans readily falsified everybody's records to attribute everything good to drugs, when in reality there is only evidence that the drug has caused damage, and the tyranny, forced and drug-induced disability has caused an endless agony and an incredible pain which made people go shoot others and commit suicides.

Alucard wrote: People who are stuck in psychosis...do get a little help coming out of that...who want that kind of help who get a charlatan who gives them a biggest dosage and listens to their concerns.

What is psychosis? A charlatan who disagrees with you badly resorts very swiftly and happily to insulting you by saying "you are out of touch with reality!". The invented name for a disagreement is that one of you has "psychosis (being out of touch with reality)." Guess who in 100% of disputes between a charlatan and a person gets #######4 and slandered, and has stuff written into his record? And gets forcibly or voluntarily drugged whenever possible ("To make my drug money!", charlatan said). When drugs disable you via toxic poisoning, you can hardly argue with anyone about anything. Do you still naively believe something like a "proper psychiatrist" exists and sticks to the truth? It doesn't. If you think it does, give us the evidence, his name, etc.

Alucard wrote:Some people out there WERE MADE TO BELIEVE they are helped by the drugs.

Of course! That's for the drug money! $$$. First a charlatan sells you a lie that you are ill when you are healthy, then the charlatan makes you believe you need to disable yourself with a drug every day to be less ill, and as you are getting your body and brain really messed up from the poisoning, the charlatans add more drugs and make more money! That's all until you commit a suicide due to the unstoppable suffering and permanent damage! Those drugs cause permanent damage after some time of use, and then you do not need them anymore because you are permanently disabled! Damage to your brain has been done, you end up in a carehouse on a bed, unable to do anything due to the brain damage, wishing you were dead. POISONS HAVE NEVER HELPED ANYBODY, EXCEPT THEIR SELLERS!

Alucard wrote:
The system is corrupt, every person is greedy, every person inside the system does the same knowingly or unknowingly. We've all been screwed by false medical claims. It's run by drug cartels, of course, there's not going to be any drug in the future that helps anyone, and there has not been any drug in the past. All those drugs are toxic poisons causing disability, and victims are #######4 to disable themselves and to keep strong false beliefs forever about being helped when it is the exact opposite. If they find out too late, permanent damage has been done, they no longer need the drugs, they stay disabled also without them. Chemical lobotomy.


Alucard wrote:
Because nobody is as powerful as drug cartels, people will continue getting screwed over at an alarming rate. Sitting and ranting OR mass shooting is the only historical couple of things that people did when they wished to change something.


In the studies, it was never proved any drug had a positive effect. Only many test subjects were made to believe that they are now feeling better, just like charlatans can make you believe that you are ill when you are healthy, or that you need to stay locked up when you do not, or anything else. Who writes those studies for drug money? Who pays for those studies? (drug cartels) Who #######4 people about the positive effects? (drug cartels and charlatans - both who have the drug money).

Charlatans attribute everything positive to the poisonous disability-inducing drugs because of $$$. They do not even consult it with you, and they write whatever they want into the notes, knowing that you disagree, and that they are out of touch with reality. Drug cartels are also out of touch with reality. Everything is just drug money. There is not any psychiatrist in the world who ever helped anyone by forcing drugs. Prescribed drugs via #######4 are forced drugs in my opinion, just like when forced via court order. Only in the first case you are believing lies when you voluntarily disable yourself and consider it better, and in the second case you know it is a tyranny, but you cannot go against the court when you are poisoned. You would need to be non-poisoned to argue. Otherwise you cannot.
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Re: molested by psychiatry

Postby Alucard » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:47 am

In science, the onus is up to you to prove that something works. You have not convinced me. That means NOBODY has ever been helped by these disabling drugs. Psychs made their drug money by selling the drugs, and by manipulating people to believe that anything negative is due to a non-existent illness and anything positive is due to a toxic, poisonous and disabling drug. Charlatans readily falsified everybody's records to attribute everything good to drugs, when in reality there is only evidence that the drug has caused damage, and the tyranny, forced and drug-induced disability has caused an endless agony and an incredible pain which made people go shoot others and commit suicides.
And you have yet to convince me that every single person on this earth who has ever taken a psychiatry drug (regardless of your opinion) has suffered traumatic, fatal issues from it. I'm not disputing that the whole system is set up to make money. But you can't put words or experiences into other clients mouths. Now, unless you've got your own practice and you've seen every person in the world and they all complain of horrible horrible things than I don't see how you're close to qualified to make claims like that. We've all had our bad experience. Doesn't mean everyone does.

What is psychosis? A charlatan who disagrees with you badly resorts very swiftly and happily to insulting you by saying "you are out of touch with reality!". The invented name for a disagreement is that one of you has "psychosis (being out of touch with reality)." Guess who in 100% of disputes between a charlatan and a person gets #######4 and slandered, and has stuff written into his record? And gets forcibly or voluntarily drugged whenever possible ("To make my drug money!", charlatan said). When drugs disable you via toxic poisoning, you can hardly argue with anyone about anything. Do you still naively believe something like a "proper psychiatrist" exists and sticks to the truth? It doesn't. If you think it does, give us the evidence, his name, etc.

Yep, doctors lie and exaggerate on reports I agree. Psychosis is a mind state that some people have and others don't. Regardless, some people feel like their life is destroyed by it and that can't be disputed. And yes I do think a proper psychiatrist exists. Just like good people exist. Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean they don't exist. Just because I haven't seen one doesn't mean they don't exist. I mean come on, having a biased opinion on everything doesn't help anyone. You have to place your opinion aside and look at things on a wider lens my friend. We could argue for ######6 years on who is wrong and who is right and it doesn't make a difference on the people who have to go through the #######4. Ranting on this website isn't going to do jack. I mean, I don't know about you, but i'm going to go out into the world and be part of the small group still fighting against the drug companies, the psychiatrists who sue the pharmaceutical companies for damage done or are expert witnesses in cases against them or the others who get evidence of publication bias and bring it to the attention of the FDA. Yeah, its a slow process and not enough people do it. Because not enough people realize they have to play the game in order to make a difference, not just let everyone know their opinion. Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes for me in the end. Succeed, fail, whatever, i'm doing something .
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