The latest mass shooting and the mental illness debate

Lawmakers should "increase our efforts to establish additional mental health alternatives, which can identify and control unstable and violent persons," said Caldwell in a written statement. "Last night, Louisiana became the latest in a terribly long line of states where an obviously unstable individual saw fit to strike out at innocent citizens, killing and wounding many and destroying the lives of their families.”


http://www.ibtimes.com/john-russell-houser-shooting-are-poor-mental-health-policies-blame-louisiana-movie-2023684

Read the whole thing, it says alot more, I didn't want to copy cat paste too much.

I don't even know what to say about this latest one, I don't think any of the ideas being debated are going to stop this non sense. More guns less guns more laws less laws bla bla bla the gun debate no thanks, both side are right and both sides are wrong as far as I can tell both sides of it offer no solution that's going to work so I don't want to take part in the gun debate.

The only Idea I have to add to this is maybe if we actually had "asylums" like they used to people might actually check into them when they are bugging out or drunk homeless loosing there minds.

If you read the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous it speaks of checking into asylums like it was a real easy thing to do back then.

I remember when I was checking into a hospital when I was all messed up from benzodiazepine withdrawal and messed up from the other drugs I was recklessly prescribed and another guy was also being admitted after being brought in by the police all messed up from smoking crack and being on the street. I guess he had no insurance like I did cause when they asked him if he felt like hurting himself or others and he said yes, I have a gun and I am going to shoot lots of people then myself. That totally freaked me out at the time but he only said that to get in. He was all dirty and run down from being outside.

Here is something from the AA book.

"By this time I was beginning to pay very dearly physically and, in hope of relief, voluntarily incarcerated myself at least a dozen times in one of the local sanitariums."

DOCTOR BOB'S NIGHTMARE Page 174


Maybe we need some kind of places that really are "asylums" were people can go if they are bugging out instead of $1000 + a day beds and a weeks worth of chemical torture they call "rapid stabilization".

From the article, "increase our efforts to establish additional mental health alternatives, which can identify and control unstable and violent persons,"

Just how are they going to identify and control those needles in a haystack that big ? Millions of so called mentally ill people and only a few do the mass shooting thing every year.

I like to think I am really smart but I don't see any solution.

I will read more, but I heard that he was already involuntarily committed prior. Obviously I don't think commitment is the issue in this case. I agree with you, the ideas being discussed would not have helped nor would they help in the future.

I think the only real solution will come when psychiatrists can legitimately differentiate between who is dangerous and who is not rather then trying to profit everywhere they can.

I am watching CNN and over and over they keep using that catastrophic sky is falling tone of voice, fast talking and those stupid way to loud "coming up next" sound effects because of this story. Please just report the news.


I don't have time to do the math but think I am going to go see a movie cause my chances of getting shot are probably like one in a billion and I am not scared.

I wouldn't worry about it either. The worst thing is letting fear get to you, especially when it shouldn't be a concern to start with.

The people who were shooting with machine guns were doing so because they were under a tyranny. Tyrannized by the society, and by corrupt charlatans who pretend to be experts in mental health. Charlatans falsely imprisoned them, forcibly drugged them with disabling drugs, took away their freedoms, and destroyed their lives. Victims were drove into such a despair by this legalized and overlooked tyranny, that they used their constitutional rights to fight tyranny with guns.

Are we trying to prevent all mass shootings? Short of disarming the populace, there's no way to do that.