Is psychiatry an excact science?

I was once told that my contemplations about life where completely irrelevant as I was clearly schizophrenic. Psychiatry was excact as I was told.

The problem with this is that it is simply not true. Psychiatry diagnoses from symptoms alone, if you have voices and delusions then you have schizophrenia. Whats wrong with this you migh ask? Let me give you an example.

For a year I had a very bloated stomach, I would have constipation and then I started getting blood in the stool. This happened every day and it was of a character that suggested it came from the colon. If you read online, this was all the symptoms of colon cancer. I got a colonscopy and they discovered that there was absolutely nothing wrong with my colon. I had all the symptoms but I was not sick.

Could this not also happen in psychiatry? Could I not have the symptoms of schizophrenia, but not be sick? Why is that any different? There is no test to determine if one has schizophrenia or not. Imagine if I was diagnosed with colon cancer from my symptoms alone and given horrific cancer treatments!

Yet this takes place everyday in psychiatry. Hearing voices is occuring in upwards of up to 1 in 15, and is most often not ascociated with functional decline. Delusions are very common, especially in free thinking individuals. Therefore I think I will be critical of my schizophrenia diagnosis, especially since a 2.5 months stay in another hospital only got me severe depression diagnosis. I might simply not have this debilitating disease even if I have had some symptoms.

There's no such thing as an exact science if humans are involved. All the so-called symptoms listed for the majority of mental disorders I question as many of them are common and aren't always a cause for concern; if the symptoms aren't causing the individual distress, why are they getting labeled as abnormal? I think it's rather disturbing they measure "normality" with bell curve statistics because then the thought process is oh, the majority of people experience this so everyone who doesn't, well, they're weird or they're crazy or something's wrong with them.

I think it's important to be critical of a lot of diagnoses these days. I know I think about life differently, see things differently, and understand things differently and honestly I'm proud I do. For someone to say your thoughts are invalid because they're not "normal" is just as irrational as a delusion to me.

I'm going into the field of psychiatry and I often wish we would treat the symptoms alone and focus on what the patient is disturbed by per their own explanation rather than grouping a bunch of patterned behavior together and giving it a name to work as a label.

I hope they do find an accurate test for Schizophrenia. And for all other mental ilnesses, but I sincerly doubt that it will happen for the next 30 years. Lets hope Im wrong.

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Ive read that it is possible to diagnose with 90% accuraracy from a voice sample. Is this true?

It’s possible to argue, as many have done, that the whole talk of symptoms in psychiatry is not justified.

A symptom is defined as a 'manifestation of a pathological condition'. However, as Denise Russell points out referring to modern psychiatry, “because in most cases no underlying pathological condition is substantiated, the declaration that aspects of thinking or behaving referred to can be regarded as symptoms, must be treated with caution.”

Mottec wrote:. I had all the symptoms but I was not sick.

Could this not also happen in psychiatry? Could I not have the symptoms of schizophrenia, but not be sick? Why is that any different?

Actually, this can not happen in current psychiatry. If you have the so called “symptoms”, you are “sick” by definition. Of course I’m not saying you are really sick, I’m just saying such is their way of reasoning.

Alucard wrote:I'm going into the field of psychiatry and I often wish we would treat the symptoms alone and focus on what the patient is disturbed by per their own explanation rather than grouping a bunch of patterned behavior together and giving it a name to work as a label.

In that case I think you should get acquainted with the work of ICPN (The International Critical Psychiatry Network).

Many argue that psychiatry is not science at all.

Here is a good one, the CRITIQUE OF MEDICAL-COERCIVE PSYCHIATRY http://www.szasz.com/leifercritic.pdf

CopyCat or others:

Ive read Laing with great interest. Does Szazz have his own theories of schizophfrenia or is it only a critique of psychiatry.

Ive also read Hillman, who is critical of psychiatry and has his own very credible theories on inner life.

Can anyone recomend some decent and acclaimed schizophrenia books, ONLY THERAPY please, no biological bogus.

I have a degree Master of Science. Psychiatry is not science at all. In science, every piece of information we work with is verifiable, so at any time we can prove something is true. Chemistry is a science and we can prove anything in chemistry by doing an experiment. This is called a scientific proof.

In psychiatry, there is no proof and experiments are done by people who get drug money and are sponsored by drug cartels. Those experiments happen behind a closed door, and if unsuccessful (when they fail to conclusively show any benefit of a tested drug), the studies do not get published.

In science, experiments have a strong rigor to prevent biased results caused by poor handling of data, poor methodology, flawed basic assumptions that are untrue yet the experiments assumed them true, etc.

Any experiment in psychiatry that shows positive effects of any drug is sponsored by the drug company, and it is always unverifiable. Nobody else can repeat it. In chemistry, I can repeat independently any experiment I need. In psychiatry, nobody has repeated anything. Independent studies, all of them as far as I know, actually disprove any positive effects of drugs. They find antidepressants are an active placebo, antipsychotics are the same but with severe effects causing disability, antiadhd are also a placebo making a person feel better in short-term and then causing what it should treat, and there are more examples. You can google that.

Psychiatry is a corruption. It does not handle data rigorously. At any time false records are made, opinions are passed as facts, previous false records are also passed as facts, real facts are never checked, there are not any independent researchers since all have ties to drug cartels and those who don't have direct ties have them indirectly for example to their colleagues who are already corrupted.

A group of corrupted charlatans claiming to be experts in mental health, but without any scientific merit, and untouched by critical questioning. They all take drug money and are all corrupted charlatans who know very well that this fraud makes them filthy rich, and they are satisfied by feeling power over other people. If you start understanding spineless people who feed on drug money from cocaine, LSD, heroin, opium, you will also start understanding charlatans feeding on drug money from crippling drugs intended to make victims helpless and harmless, defenselessly disabled to stay in a room (of a hospital at best) while every day you are getting paid for filling that hospital, and at the end of the month you are getting bonuses when you have filled it fully. In the US, because of how much fully filled those hospitals are, charlatans claim there is a crisis and that they need more hospitals.

In the drug business and death businesses, corrupted people do the most obscene atrocities imaginable in the world without feeling anything for the victims but hate. We all know when charlatans write something about us, how they vilify the truth to make us appear on a paper like the next Sadam Husein, and then they use it to justify whatever they want to do to us.

In science, everything written must be neutral and I mean a neutral point of view where facts are not vilified, exaggerated, written from hearsay, selectively interpreted, minimized, or otherwise distorted. All those distortions of facts happen in rhetoric which is the art of persuasion. Rhetoric makes people believe things that are of a fraudulent nature to be true. Of course that schizophrenia is fraud. Nobody has schizophrenia (brain splitting nonsense), in Korea they named it properly "integration disorder" meaning someone poorly integrates into the society, has few or no friends, etc. Of course if you are excluded from a group of friends, or any other group, you start being paranoid about what the group is thinking about you, whether they want to do something to you, etc.

Some people just have no friends and that is why they have fear, and when fearful they believe anything, they exaggerate from fear, and are paranoid from being alone. But there can also be other situations of a person being just isolated, and thinking what others would have said about him if they saw him, and that is when naturally every person may be imagining. Over time, you may be imagining voices of approval just because you are greatly missing friends who would say something nice about you, etc. and you may be isolated from people for so long, that if you talk with someone, you get rejected, and you are then an outcast, get complained about to charlatans, and they vilify you, ostracize you further, and at best lock you up for life on drugs that disable you, while charlatans gobble up drug money because they are corrupted and exercise an absolute power as dictators as tyrants in the bullying of a highest order.

Corrupted charlatans who cripple other people for money can be found in dentistry, plastic surgery, any other surgery, and anything to do with drug cartels. Ruthless villains corrupt by drug money from their cartels will do anything to imprison as many people as possible, lock them in cages or rooms, and give them disabling drugs. For profit, they took a hammer and an ice-pick, shoved it up through person's eye sockets, and damaged their brain until they were satisfied the person is so disabled that he or she cannot do anything to complain or to upset someone. People were afterward like vegetable, almost unconscious, doing anything you tell them, like slaves, and utterly, completely helpless. Corrupted charlatans have done it to hundreds of thousands of people, and still do it today in many countries just because after this they can rape, they can torture in any way they want, they have the absolute 100% full control, and victims are locked up for the pleasure of these manipulate psychopaths. That is pure psychiatry, and nobody ever believed anything about the "overactive brain", it was just used as a lying justification, just like when I cut their legs off and somebody asks why, I can say he was ill and has restless legs, so I helped him and now he is healthy... MDs are studying hard, and then are all corrupt because they are upset about the money and want more at any cost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

This is a real scientific experiment which proves that charlatans claiming to be experts in mental health wrongly diagnose healthy people as schizohprenics and then force them to agree and to take drugs as a condition of release. It has been tested in multiple hospitals across the US, including an expensive private hospital, and concluded the diagnosis is invalid.

It is now scientifically proven by the Rosenham experiment that psychiatrists give people invalid pseudodiagnosis, schizophrenia is just like ADHD - a BS, and they force healthy people to believe they are ill, and to disable themselves with disabling drugs for the good of others.

Maybe you were having just an existential crisis? Who complained about your behavior to them?

These views are not "insane", in case your reading and doubt the content.

This is a rapport from the british soceity of psychologists

https://www.bps.org.uk/system/files/use ... v_2014.pdf

They state that psychosis for many people as in my case, is simply due to traumatic events. These traumatic events need to stop, but many times a diagnosis just opens up to further abuse.

Its a good read for all that doubt if the biological model fits their own experience.

Its time that soceity lead by psychiatry stop labelling some "patients" as "too sick" to deserve human treatment. We are all worthy of basic human rights. Some people might oppose these rights, but never the less, they are still officially recognized.