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Is psychiatry an excact science?

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Re: Is psychiatry an excact science?

Postby El Nino » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:36 pm

Mottec, you might be interested in this documentary Take These Broken Wings, by Daniel Mackler. It touches upon a few themes you mentioned. It’s aesthetically a bit clumsy but makes some solid points and narratives on schizophrenia. Open Dialogue, by the same director, adds some interesting perspectives to this subject too.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfKc-TknWU
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Re: Is psychiatry an excact science?

Postby Mottec » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:50 pm

El NIno

Looks promising. thx
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Re: Is psychiatry an excact science?

Postby quackery » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:02 am

Mottec wrote:These views are not "insane", in case your reading and doubt the content.

This is a rapport from the british soceity of psychologists

https://www.bps.org.uk/system/files/use ... v_2014.pdf


"Insane" is a curse just like when you say somebody is an idiot, or bastard, or a b*tch. There is no medical meaning of being an idiot, a b*tch, or bastard. People wrongly believe some real idiot exists, or some real b*tch exists, etc. but they do not! Everybody is a b*tch sometimes, an idiot sometimes, a bastard sometimes.

By insisting somebody is that curse word all the time, we are lying! Nobody in the world is an idiot all the time! Others are calling names as much as we are calling names. Only a deceptive corrupted person who wants to make drug money will insist somebody is too much of an idiot to be free, or too much of a b*tch to be allowed to live without disablement induced by drug cartels that pay for it.

Mottec wrote:They state that psychosis for many people as in my case, is simply due to traumatic events.


Do you actually know what is psychosis? Is it very similar to calling somebody an idiot, or an a*hole. We instead say he is out of touch with reality. And the invented curse word is "has psychosis".

There is no such thing as psychosis. Somebody is always of touch with reality. Whether it is your professor who is sometimes out of touch with reality about the job industry, or it is your friend being out of touch with reality regarding his personal problem, it does not matter, it is the same.

You can be out of touch with reality simply by being wrong about something.

So you are wrong about something being you had traumatic events happen to you? I do not believe you are wrong. You know what I believe? You are right! Having more than a usual fear about something is normal. Consider how much fear you will have from cars if one hits you and nearly causes your death. Is it ethical and moral to say about a victim of a car massacre to say he is wrong when he has fear of cars now? BS, it is not any psychosis, it is not anything wrong either. It is perfectly normal. Just be tolerant, people!

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These traumatic events need to stop, but many times a diagnosis just opens up to further abuse.


Diagnosis *IS* abuse. Indeed, it opens new abuse. You are being exploited by corrupt doctors for drug money! They are making drug money on you and *CAUSE* you to have traumatic events! Your old traumatic events are gone. They reignite the pain by reminding you old traumas. It is a rhetorical trick, when THEY make you think of traumatic events just to check if they hurt. It is a deception of highest order. Traumatic events can be blamed for anything and everything, just like a chemical imbalance, but that is discredited because no imbalance has ever been found, see? The old trick of reminding a victim old traumas, and making the victim relive them is especially efficient during a court to avoid punishment for whoever has caused the crime. Some victims even commit a suicide after such a court. Don't fall a prey to these corrupt doctors. They have drug money! That is why things exist like psychosis for allegedly being wrong, or schizophrenia for allegedly having fear.


Mottec wrote:
Its a good read for all that doubt if the biological model fits their own experience.


It's a theses, i.e. some corrupt doctor gives HIS position. We need to question motives! What led these corrupt doctors to take this position? Money from drug cartels! They are affiliated, are getting huge kickbacks, paid vacations by drug cartels, rewards, publicity, talks, promotions, bonuses for filling the whole hospital 100% of capacity, and respect from other crooks when they invent more lying justifications.

There is nothing else than corrupt doctors making drug money, and drug cartels making drug money. They need idiots to sell those drugs to, and they are using the weakest people in the society. But as they are too greedy right now, these corrupt crooks also readily violate any normal healthy and strong person, such as myself, and that is because they need more money, and need to fill those hospitals 100%, and they need to complain about a mental health crisis to get more hospitals built, and to make more drug money!

The entire fake science has been invented for drug money! Invented from scratch, lie after lie, to sell drug after drug, slander after slander, and now we are thoroughly infested with corruption in medicine. For money, corrupt charlatans cut body parts, install cardio stimulators to people who do not need them, deny treatment to those who need, make problems worse just to keep a returning victim who they make more money on, and in China and India it is the same where patients are already fighting these corrupt doctors with violence, and giving them bribes to get things done better, or get the treatment they need.

Corruption via drug money is the biggest corruption in this world, whether it is Al Chapo in Mexico or legalized drug cartels, it is the same corruption, the same ruthless villains, ones do it illegally, others do it legally!

They are helping themselves by inventing a fake science, and not letting anyone stop it, or challenge it. These drug cartels are just a mafia, and psychiatrists are a mafia, thugs, druglords, kingpins, butchers, murderers, rapists, child abusers, just read more about drugs. Most drugs are in the US! The US is most corrupt by drugs! That is also where most of the fake science has been invented to legally sell sh*t.

It is absurd and ridiculous to sell you drugs and lies to disable yourself and believe you are ill. Whoever believes that is an idiot. The drug money should go to me too! I want too! More! More drugs, more money! Gimme, gimme, gimme, and I will drug y'all, whether you want or not. That's what, that's why, that's how.
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Re: Is psychiatry an excact science?

Postby delet3r » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:20 pm

When I went to a psychologist for therapy, I asked him about psychology being a science, and he said "well, not so much. We apply scientific ideas and processes to what we do, but it's not really science. We cannot elimate all variables, so any answer we get is more like an educated guess".

In my opinion, people in psychiatry or psychology that admit this are more likely to be of real help to you.
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Re: Is psychiatry an excact science?

Postby quackery » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:48 pm

delet3r wrote:When I went to a psychologist for therapy, I asked him about psychology being a science, and he said "well, not so much. We apply scientific ideas and processes to what we do, but it's not really science. We cannot elimate all variables, so any answer we get is more like an educated guess".

In my opinion, people in psychiatry or psychology that admit this are more likely to be of real help to you.


OK. I admit psychiatry and psychology are nothing like science. Now, if you please continue where we ended, I am a corrupt crooked Dr and you need to come to my ordination where I will treat you with anything and everything that can be on your mind, FOR AS LONG AS I MAKE MY DRUG MONEY ON YOU.

(I am just making a point that it doesn't matter what the corrupt doctors say. It matters only that they are members of the drug cartels personally, and those who are junior doctors are yet to join those cartels. But in the end, every corrupt doctor is the same, and psychiatry is a non-existent branch of medicine. It is just a pure corruption. It is entirely invented, lie after lie, slander after slander, trick after trick.

If you come to these tricks, you are a cannon fodder they make cash on. That's all!
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