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Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

Open discussion about the Anti-Psychiatry Movement and related topics. This includes the opposition to forced treatment and hospitalization as well as the belief that Psychiatric Medication does more harm than good. Please note that these topics are controversial and therefore this forum may offend some people. This is not the belief of Psych Forums or Get Mental Help and this forum was posted to offer a safe place to discuss these beliefs.

Re: Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

Postby Mottec » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:40 pm

quackery wrote:Thank you for your excellent post! I am glad we the smart men have achieved the point of realization in our journey through life. Psychiatry exists precisely for the purposes as you mention. Bullying, harassment, forceful disablement, and other punitive purposes.

It does indeed ostracize people further from the society, labels them sick, deceives them to believe it, and tries to sell the disabling drug to them for life.

People who otherwise could be doing fine are punished by psychiatry to forcefully attend a disabling treatment, called only "treatment", drugs are forced under threats and if refused administered using violence.

Before psychiatry, we had something very similar to it. It was called witchcraft. How did people stop believing in witches? I have searched for the answer, and found that it was the churches that indoctrinated our societies to believe in witches, to label them, ostracize them from the society, and burn them to death by setting them on fire. The society is now drugging us to death by selling and forcing us to involuntarily take disabling, debiliating, poisonous drugs which is just as cruel and as barbaric as labeling us wizards and witches, and burning us on fire.

In the 17th century, during the Age of Enlightenment, cultural and intellectual forces in Western Europe emphasized reason, analysis, and individualism rather than traditional lines of authority. It challenged authorities deeply rooted in our society, such as Church, and there was much talk of ways to reform our society with: TOLERATION, SCIENCE, and SKEPTICISM instead of any blind belief. As churches became separated from the State, people started being more educated and had more toleration, relying on individualism, skepticism, and empirical science.

How and when psychiatry started existing is still unknown to me, however unknown is not that a new form of "witchcraft" is believed by the society, and that an equivalent of a Church is now "medicine". And they are a part of the state, like Churches were at the time of witchcraft.

Churches are not for our benefit. Neither are doctors. They are for their own benefit, for the power and money! To paraphrase Machiavelli, he a few centuries ago, Christianity is a sect which makes people weak and inactive delivering politics into the hands of cruel and wicked men without a fight. (This was at the time of witchraft)

We can say Psychiatry is a sect making people weak and inactive, delivering power into the hands of cruel and wicked men, without a fight. They are in it for power and money. All doctors of medicine who are too smart quickly end up deceiving people for money and doing less and less to help anyone with anything. Doctor of psychiatry helps noone with nothing. He is not offering anything to anyone. In fact, he helps himself only, to get money and power by selling disabling drugs and falsifying miraculous effects that those drugs do not have. Gaps in the scientific method are exploited to prove clearly false beliefs into true.

Every psychiatric article you have seen, every term, every research paper, all is biased and exploits gaps by using rhetoric, fraudulent data, poor studies, referencing discredited authors, discredited theories such as chemical imbalances, uses very poor and discredited methodologies such as showing 3 passed studies without showing the hundreds of failed studies of any beneficial effects of the same product, therefore the entire psychiatry relies on weakness in science that can be exploited. So, what can be falsified is falsified,
what can be [intentionally] misinterpreted is misinterpreted, what can be cut from context is cut from context,
etc. Just like claims made by the great demagog in Nazi germany, Hitler, or claims made by the great demagogs
in the Church about witchcraft that were flawed a few centuries ago.

The only difference between the Church and the Psychiatry is those who claim they know how to identify and treat witches, those who make money on it, are using a more sophisticated deception. When Church stopped working, deceptive science (fake science exploiting all gaps in the scientific method) works like a charm. Mostly only best- educated scientists with strong university degrees can recognize the deception made by well-educated deceivers with doctoral univerisity degrees. Great level of education can be used to make a great level of deception. What is the education of politicians, and how can they deceive you for example.

And to conclude, psychiatric hospitals are concentration camps, and the majority of the society agrees to exterminate people via psychiatry just like the majority agreed in Nazi Germany because it is for profit. When you hear someone is crazy, you imagine the worst possible homeless stinking disgusting person in a dirty clothes with a big beard, week unwashed, etc. and you easily agree with this picture in mind that you would like to exterminate these people.

Medicine is a part of the State, like Church was when people believed in witchcraft, and they imagined something as evil as above when they heard the word witch or wizard. They imagined something even worse, perhaps.

Medicine should NOT be a part of the state! And I do not want to pay a penny for medicine, EVER, unless I need some service and I am willing to freely choose to pay for that service. I should not be forced to pay for charlatans from my taxes. Nobody should. Charlatans should be 100% private, all of them.

Why the hell are we paying such high taxes for medicine so charlatans are endlessly profiteering, illness-mongering, harassing, bullying, disabling, deceiving, misinforming, and otherwise abusing their position. Not a penny should be paid to any charlatan unless the "patient" is happy with the service. Privatization of health is a must. Charlatans do not belong under the state, just like religious fanatics from Churches do not belong there, for they have their own interests in mind, not ours!

I suggest medicine is inherently for profit, and inherently greedy, and is a degree of evil. If you need something, you do not even get it, doctors do not care unless it is an emergency, because when it is not they make less money. It is extremely unethical to wait until a minor irritant becomes a problem, and then still not do anything, until a problem becomes a crisis. And when the problem is a crisis, they disable you and make the biggest possible profit on your problem since they maintain you disabled for life, and make the problem worse and worse, so ideally they make it so bad that you die while they made the biggest possible money and got rid of garbage. They are bullying you, harassing, torturing, slandering, and disabling you, with an intent to kill you.

All medicine is for profit. No medicine in the world is there to help people. But psychiatry is an extreme machiavellinism, like all quackery is.


nice point with witchcraft! Were you also hurt by psychiatric medications? I know I was for sure.
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Re: Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

Postby quackery » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:59 am

Mottec wrote:nice point with witchcraft! Were you also hurt by psychiatric medications? I know I was for sure.


Yes, very hurt by everything psychiatric. I have completely lost my previously strong desire to help people as an engineer, to do things in public interest, to serve the society and engineer things that improve people's life.

The disabling treatment which I endured was dishonest and unfair, and I have been deceived, slandered, psych raped, bad words we utter about others when we disagree with them are in today's medicine deceptively made into diagnoses.

I have lost any respect whatsoever toward any doctor of medicine in the world. Now they are all charlatans because the entire medicine, all people who are MDs, are to blame for this situation. We have not suffered because of being subdued and subjected to a disabling treatment, for we have suffered because of GREEDY doctors of medicine. I can see how my dentists caused damage to my teeth when they were greedy and wanted to make more money. My teeth would have been better if I would have my own driller and fixed them myself. (For real!) My well-being would have been better if I never were forced to be seen by a mental health charlatan (For real!). And my physical health would have been better too, since the charlatan caused I lost muscle and gained extra weight which I have been trying to lose for already half a year without success.

My studying would go better without the damage that the charlatans caused, and my career would have been better too.

Charlatans of all sorts have caused an enormous damage to me, and I want to be a greedy bastard, a machiavelli, and a sophist myself too. Instead of serving the society as an engineer, I now study rhetoric, politics, deception, manipulation, and cunning skills to do nothing for nobody, and to gain power and money illicitly just like charlatans of medicine have been doing that for centuries. And I recommend you too to BS every charlatan that you are still on the disabling treatment, but to really do what is good for you. I started saying one thing and doing another. Just like charlatans of medicine, politicians, police, and other bastards do...

Everything that has to do with medicine, unless it is scientific such as virus and anti-dote, is an outright fraud, the government is corrupt, mandatory health insurance is used to give fraudulent treatment, for my tax money I have been BSed to disable myself with faul drugs, and faul arguments were provided. Charlatans of medicine took the truth and vilified it so that neutral points became strong points against me. This is what I want to do in return to the society, and I want to be a parasite like they are, gobble up everybody's money and give them some eyewash instead of any hard work or engineering service.

Lastly, I have discovered ethics, moral, manners are all ideals that I was BSed to believe, and that other people around me do not believe in those ideals, do not have those values, therefore I have been at home doing the most unethical, immoral, rude things I can imagine to gradually get used to it, and then I can instrumentally be ethical or unethical, moral or immoral, etc. just like those psychopathic charlatans of medicine. Every individual doctor of medicine does whatever is making him stronger and his opponents weaker, and none of the charlatans ever made anybody's life better. They gobbled up money and BSed people.

I was never unethical, immoral, or rude to others in my life before I was subjected to the most brutal, most unethical, most immoral, rudest possible psych rape. The above is the damage it has done to me and to the society, and I am ready to be the next Hitler for what has been done to me against my will. Gimme a chance and I will establish nazi concentration camps for locking up psychiatrists and having them drugged with antipsychotics, making them work for freedom...until death. I would be as mercyless and as cruel as they are. In fact, they cause massacres like plane full of people going down when a pilot has been psych raped, or mass shootings with machine guns when a student has been psych raped, and for every incident charlatans of medicine are to blame. In a corrupt world, let's be corrupt. Most corrupt people in the world are ruling the less corrupt people in the world.

If I knew how greedy, spineless, unethical all MDs are, my health would have been better because I would have treated MDs as dirty liars, compared to me they are the lowest class, and I would treated them like random dangerous gypsies who have the potential to trick me and hurt me, while getting my tax money and insurance money as a reward. In Noremburg processes, violators of human rights got executed. If I get into politics, I will look for ways to discredit, dishonor, and criminalize MDs for they are serving only themselves! And they are using an outright fraud to help themselves to money. Not only psych, but all charlatans of medicine. Even those who do surgeries are cheating, frequently operating drunk, and irresponsible, negligent, lazy to read about the procedure before cutting, and frequently cause serious harm.

I have yet to meet a charlatan of medicine who makes somebody's health better. So far, around 9 out of 10 interventions of any sort make person's health worse! Police, law, justice system - all is a fraud just as well. They use rhetoric and exaggerated sentences, jails are torture and cruel and inhumane treatment, so are segregations and any drugging, and how can it be called justice when people are tortured there, and what is legal about such a "legal" system? Legalized torture is what is really going on, and most people are jailed for BS, not for any murders or anything serious. An American lady got over 20 years of imprisonment for having a consensual sex with 17-year old students. Every 17-year old guy would love to have sex with a nice, university educated teacher, and because she did what was human nature, and the students slept with her, she has now 20+ years of torture for being just a human.

And we, who were injured by psychiatry, have been given deceptively a disabling treatment without knowing it will disable us, and it was all because some of our "friends" (people we see) have complained about our behavior, feelings, or thoughts to ruthless unscientific charlatans. Most often, we have been tortured by those charlatans, lost our freedom, and have been very deeply harmed just for having some life problem that we could not solve. Just for being human.

All charlatans of medicine are greedy bastards, helping themselves for money of tax-payers to power, and providing fraudulent treatments, dysinformation, and a great damage to society. Nobody does more damage to society than a person who is believed by everyone to help it. The problem which people had in their life stayed unsolved, for they got maliciously disabled and brain damaged to the point where they could not complain. Anyway, I hope there will be more shootings and stuff in the US, hopefully so many that the society starts to see these torturers, tyrants, quacks as causes. And I wish for Bin Laden that would destroy some big center of psychiatry and terminate as many quacks as possible. Gosh, that would be great. It would be heroism and a fight for freedom! Terrorism is what we have now when these bastards are in power. Who fights tyrants is a hero fighting for freedom.
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Re: Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

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Re: Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

Postby quackery » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:26 am

Fraudulent hospital admissions to meet targets (admissions into a hospital for money, not because of a medical need):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSCBrenXPao
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Re: Psychiatry is not for your benefit.

Postby Parador » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:29 pm

They work for the state, not the patient. They always will as long as there are laws permitting involuntary "treatment." Psychologists can also be state thought police.
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