I stopped going to therapy

Still not able to hold a job, though I'm working on alternatives. I'd be doing that either way. How many years have passed and they still haven't helped? Their programs allegedly in place to help me with my goals, only giving an unnecessary spotlight to me, only made me stick out like a sore thumb when I did try to use them to hold a job. So much for job coaching.... Made me the freaking whipping boy. Don't want to be on disability forever. I'll figure this out, I'm resilient and I do believe that I can.

As far as psychiatry, the meds never helped. Stopped taking them long ago. They had a tendacy to make things worse. Most of the time, I took them to help me be able to be on this unnatural sleep schedule that never worked for me either way. Sure, my sleeping habits and changes in mood are a little much, but they cease to be an issue if I'm not around people who prefer not to be subjected to them; like at a job. ....or I just have a personality people find annoying. Not everyone does though!

Whatever happened to not changing to suit others? What ever happened to selfacceptance? Is it, somehow, not an important part of life if you just happened to be among the labelled? Which label is it anyway?

What if therapy kind of made things worse too. You know, sitting there since age 8 talking to some stranger about your personal problems. What if that's created some social issues of its own, like not having learned to develop a filter? Glad I've noticed that problem, and since correcting it I've seen more improvement than any of this cheesy fake "love yourself and other people will love you" nonsense.

Guess I just want to find improvements in my life that are grounded in reality, not new age cliches that will be long gone in 5 years; completely replaced by the next fad cooked up by charlatans and quacks.

What if all this looking for what is wrong with me psychologically is also the problem? Not just on their end, but my own? What if I've been trained into a selfdefeating mindset as a very result of being bombarded by this from a very young age? What if there's nothing wrong with me? What if it really is society?

What if some people need to find something other than the 9-5 everyone else has, and do it alone, since they can't work with other people. I'm not a people person, and I never was. It's basically the only thing anyone could agree on as being my problem since I was little. Been told everything and its opposite was true. What I really need is to look inward and see how to build my life on my terms, and see where I can improve, without anyone else implanting suggestions that will destroy my confidence further.

I mean, with the idea of coming off disability, I fear not being able to make it. I've been trained to become dependant, when I know from before there are ways not to be! I can do this, even if its hard. Though my confidence did it destroy, I can come back from this. It did make paying the bills easier, but the cost it came at, far outweighs the help they gave me.

I go to one because my pdoc requires me to. I hated the, when I was younger, around 14 and they used to do nothing but piss me off. I wouldn't talk to them so she would give me a paper to fill out about my moods, suicidal thoughts, and whatnot. I would just check no to every answer. They would just tell me stuff I already knew. I don't hate them anymore. My last one was pretty good. I don't know how much she helped me though. I just liked her. Unfortunately, she just left the practice and I have to see a new one today

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Guess I just want to find improvements in my life that are grounded in reality, not new age cliches that will be long gone in 5 years; completely replaced by the next fad cooked up by charlatans and quacks.

What if all this looking for what is wrong with me psychologically is also the problem? Not just on their endnward and see how to build my life on my terms, and see where I can improve, without anyone else implanting suggestions that will destroy my confidence further.

I mean, with the idea of coming off disability, I fear not being able to make it. I've been trained to become dependant, when I know from before there are ways not to be! I can do this, even if its hard. Though my confidence did it destroy, I can come back from this. It did make paying the bills easier, but the cost it came at, far outweighs the help they gave me.[/quote]

I have to disagree with you on wellness being new age cliches or fads. More research is being done every day to find out what helps people out. Being positive is proven to enhance the quality of your life. It attracts positive people. Law of attraction. If you cannot love yourself you're not going to be able to love others. Eating a healthy diet helps. I don't see these methods going away in 5 years. I see them increasing in popularity. More people are going to be practicing mindfulness, yoga, healthy diet, exercise. People are starting to live longer because of this.

Having a structure is important for many people living with mental illness. As much as I enjoy leisure, I was feeling my best when I had a steady job, exercise. It gave me more stability.

As for therapy, here are many different types helping certain people. I believe trauma Plays a huge role in the onset of mental illness. Trauma is what sets people off. Talking about traumatic events and letting out your feelings is proven to increase well-being. Self-acceptance. Getting over traumatic life events is a step to recovery.

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I go to one because my pdoc requires me to. I hated the, when I was younger, around 14 and they used to do nothing but piss me off. I wouldn't talk to them so she would give me a paper to fill out about my moods, suicidal thoughts, and whatnot. I would just check no to every answer. They would just tell me stuff I already knew. I don't hate them anymore. My last one was pretty good. I don't know how much she helped me though. I just liked her. Unfortunately, she just left the practice and I have to see a new one today

.[quote= wrote:Guess I just want to find improvements in my life that are grounded in reality, not new age cliches that will be long gone in 5 years; completely replaced by the next fad cooked up by charlatans and quacks.

What if all this looking for what is wrong with me psychologically is also the problem? Not just on their endnward and see how to build my life on my terms, and see where I can improve, without anyone else implanting suggestions that will destroy my confidence further.

I mean, with the idea of coming off disability, I fear not being able to make it. I've been trained to become dependant, when I know from before there are ways not to be! I can do this, even if its hard. Though my confidence did it destroy, I can come back from this. It did make paying the bills easier, but the cost it came at, far outweighs the help they gave me.

I have to disagree with you on wellness being new age cliches or fads. More research is being done every day to find out what helps people out. Being positive is proven to enhance the quality of your life. It attracts positive people. Law of attraction. If you cannot love yourself you're not going to be able to love others. Eating a healthy diet helps. I don't see these methods going away in 5 years. I see them increasing in popularity. More people are going to be practicing mindfulness, yoga, healthy diet, exercise. People are starting to live longer because of this.

Having a structure is important for many people living with mental illness. As much as I enjoy leisure, I was feeling my best when I had a steady job, exercise. It gave me more stability.

As for therapy, here are many different types helping certain people. I believe trauma Plays a huge role in the onset of mental illness. Trauma is what sets people off. Talking about traumatic events and letting out your feelings is proven to increase well-being. Self-acceptance. Getting over traumatic life events is a step to recovery.

I am a researcher and I disagree that psychiatrists do any research "to help with well-being". They do not give a damn about well-being. The only research they do is "research", practically always funded by pharmaceutical companies, always done to deceptively find an effectiveness of some brutal torture such as brain-crippling violent attacks using well-conceived techniques such as drugs.

If somebody was drilling holes into your skulls, or violently bashing your head with a rock, it would be a psychiatrist! And you are recieving exactly something like that, well conceived under drug names. If you knew what I know about the drugs and the rhetorical enterprise of psychiatry, you would have never agreed to any "therapy".

I want to mention that there is no serious research, never was, and never will be in psychiatry. The only research is that of deceptively building a bigger enterprise by rhetorically arguing for or against something (that in reality does not exist, or is very different from what these crazy charlatans say).

Traditionally, I will tell you that the charlatans know they are not helping anyone, they know the drugs are torturous brain-crippling restraints, they knew at the time of lobotomy that it was just a torture and brain damage, often done to women who were refusing sex and upset their husband, and there are these great animosities from the middle age in the modern age of the 21st century, still unpunished, and only better conceived than a few centuries ago.

Sometimes I wonder if Hitler was a psychiatrist, and I am finding that all the evil things he had he picked up from psychiatrists, incl. eugenics and mass murders of people for their race, brutal torture of people for who they naturally were, all those things.

These scammers are only doing that job for money and power. They are crazy Hitlers.

Christopher2045 wrote: I have to disagree with you on wellness being new age cliches or fads. More research is being done every day to find out what helps people out. Being positive is proven to enhance the quality of your life. It attracts positive people. Law of attraction. If you cannot love yourself you're not going to be able to love others. Eating a healthy diet helps. I don't see these methods going away in 5 years. I see them increasing in popularity. More people are going to be practicing mindfulness, yoga, healthy diet, exercise. People are starting to live longer because of this.

All of these are just claims, and you completely miss what was said. As an aside, in a round about way, you've simply reiterated my point with giving practical advice such as building a diet and setting an exercise routine (very helpful in my own life even).

Having a structure is important for many people living with mental illness. As much as I enjoy leisure, I was feeling my best when I had a steady job, exercise. It gave me more stability.

As for therapy, here are many different types helping certain people. I believe trauma Plays a huge role in the onset of mental illness. Trauma is what sets people off. Talking about traumatic events and letting out your feelings is proven to increase well-being. Self-acceptance. Getting over traumatic life events is a step to recovery.

It's funny how you start out with the idea of structure, and the very next paragraph descends into chaos of trial and error, aimlessly trying new therapies trying to find the placebo that works for you. Like with religion, it can indeed be helpful, but let's ground ourselves a little here.

The post was about frustrations and a decision that I've made. Whatever works for you is yours, what works for me works for me. So in that, we agree. Though I'd love to hear, what in your words, are things like self-acceptance? Mindfulness? Selflove? The self? All these things ripped from Buddhist philosophy, but void of the substance that the Buddhists themselves find core to their worldview?

Would not christians find it insulting if someone took their religion, claimed Jesus but threw away the entire underpinnings of the religion otherwise?

Melito wrote:

Christopher2045 wrote: I have to disagree with you on wellness being new age cliches or fads. More research is being done every day to find out what helps people out. Being positive is proven to enhance the quality of your life. It attracts positive people. Law of attraction. If you cannot love yourself you're not going to be able to love others. Eating a healthy diet helps. I don't see these methods going away in 5 years. I see them increasing in popularity. More people are going to be practicing mindfulness, yoga, healthy diet, exercise. People are starting to live longer because of this.

All of these are just claims, and you completely miss what was said. As an aside, in a round about way, you've simply reiterated my point with giving practical advice such as building a diet and setting an exercise routine (very helpful in my own life even).

Having a structure is important for many people living with mental illness. As much as I enjoy leisure, I was feeling my best when I had a steady job, exercise. It gave me more stability.

As for therapy, here are many different types helping certain people. I believe trauma Plays a huge role in the onset of mental illness. Trauma is what sets people off. Talking about traumatic events and letting out your feelings is proven to increase well-being. Self-acceptance. Getting over traumatic life events is a step to recovery.

It's funny how you start out with the idea of structure, and the very next paragraph descends into chaos of trial and error, aimlessly trying new therapies trying to find the placebo that works for you. Like with religion, it can indeed be helpful, but let's ground ourselves a little here.

The post was about frustrations and a decision that I've made. Whatever works for you is yours, what works for me works for me. So in that, we agree. Though I'd love to hear, what in your words, are things like self-acceptance? Mindfulness? Selflove? The self? All these things ripped from Buddhist philosophy, but void of the substance that the Buddhists themselves find core to their worldview?

Would not christians find it insulting if someone took their religion, claimed Jesus but threw away the entire underpinnings of the religion otherwise?

Okay, so I somewhat misunderstood your post. If therapy does nothing for you that's understandble. Only you have the power to create change, make decisions. For me a 9-5 was great. I enjoyed the job and there was plenty of down time. It gave me structure. Sleep schedule.

as for self-acceptance, mindfulness, self love,spirituality. I can't say I know too much. I have friends who were former addicts that find yoga, mindfulness, loving self, talking it out, very helpful. To the point where they are susceeding in life because of this. Addicts are much like anybody with mental illness. So why shouldn't we implement these into our daily lives? I don't do yoga. Yoga for me is playing a round of golf, some pickup basketball. It makes me happy. I just finished reading a book called The Power of Now and it was basically about this guy who one day woke up from extreme misery and had an awakening of the mind. By staying in the present moment and staying positive, everybody has the power to wake up and start living life with a purpose. I try to find joy in the little things.

This new age movement isn't about religion in any way. These practices are proven ways to help Improve your life for the better. I want to start meditating, and doing yoga, but I can be subjective to all this just as well as you may be.

As for therapy I am looking for places that do CBT. If this can help me find out what troubles me, sets me off, change bad habits. I am interested.


I want to be the best i can be.

Christopher2045 wrote: Okay, so I somewhat misunderstood your post. If therapy does nothing for you that's understandble. Only you have the power to create change, make decisions. For me a 9-5 was great. I enjoyed the job and there was plenty of down time. It gave me structure. Sleep schedule.

as for self-acceptance, mindfulness, self love,spirituality. I can't say I know too much. I have friends who were former addicts that find yoga, mindfulness, loving self, talking it out, very helpful. To the point where they are susceeding in life because of this. Addicts are much like anybody with mental illness. So why shouldn't we implement these into our daily lives? I don't do yoga. Yoga for me is playing a round of golf, some pickup basketball. It makes me happy. I just finished reading a book called The Power of Now and it was basically about this guy who one day woke up from extreme misery and had an awakening of the mind. By staying in the present moment and staying positive, everybody has the power to wake up and start living life with a purpose. I try to find joy in the little things.

I'm glad you found what works for you. For me, its the power of the pen. I try to express the positive and the negative, expressing all the variety that is a part of my being as a person. My aim is to embrace and move through the negative, and instead of running from the things I don't like, find ways to accept them and build upon and or around them to outweigh any negatives.

What is happiness without a sadness to compare it to? What is sadness without a happiness to compare it to? One with the other adds the element of appreciation of what one has, and at times, can make the downtimes seem so much less down than they once were.

This new age movement isn't about religion in any way. These practices are proven ways to help Improve your life for the better. I want to start meditating, and doing yoga, but I can be subjective to all this just as well as you may be.

Yeah, but the problem comes into play that its loosely based on religion. It's basically unfounded beliefs stripped of supernatural qualities, and then stripped of philosophical depth (in the case of DBT for instance), and then changed to suit western culture (like "embracing and feeding the self" instead of seeing that the self-construct is an illusion). Basically, you take the eastern philosophy that underlies the ideas half way, then replace it with feel-goodisms.

As far as yoga, do you mean the meditation or the western exercises?

I do meditate, it is a good way to calm yourself. Guess it can help with alot, but its not really what I mean by the fake newagery.

As for therapy I am looking for places that do CBT. If this can help me find out what troubles me, sets me off, change bad habits. I am interested.


I want to be the best i can be.

Tried CBT and DBT, both were huge disappointments. Then again, maybe it might not be for you. Good luck.

Melito wrote:What if all this looking for what is wrong with me psychologically is also the problem? Not just on their end, but my own? What if I've been trained into a selfdefeating mindset as a very result of being bombarded by this from a very young age? What if there's nothing wrong with me? What if it really is society?

It's becoming that for me, the "everyone else is f**ked up."

quackery wrote:I am a researcher and I disagree that psychiatrists do any research "to help with well-being". They do not give a damn about well-being. The only research they do is "research", practically always funded by pharmaceutical companies, always done to deceptively find an effectiveness of some brutal torture such as brain-crippling violent attacks using well-conceived techniques such as drugs.

If somebody was drilling holes into your skulls, or violently bashing your head with a rock, it would be a psychiatrist! And you are recieving exactly something like that, well conceived under drug names. If you knew what I know about the drugs and the rhetorical enterprise of psychiatry, you would have never agreed to any "therapy".

I want to mention that there is no serious research, never was, and never will be in psychiatry. The only research is that of deceptively building a bigger enterprise by rhetorically arguing for or against something (that in reality does not exist, or is very different from what these crazy charlatans say).

Traditionally, I will tell you that the charlatans know they are not helping anyone, they know the drugs are torturous brain-crippling restraints, they knew at the time of lobotomy that it was just a torture and brain damage, often done to women who were refusing sex and upset their husband, and there are these great animosities from the middle age in the modern age of the 21st century, still unpunished, and only better conceived than a few centuries ago.

Sometimes I wonder if Hitler was a psychiatrist, and I am finding that all the evil things he had he picked up from psychiatrists, incl. eugenics and mass murders of people for their race, brutal torture of people for who they naturally were, all those things.

These scammers are only doing that job for money and power. They are crazy Hitlers.

Psychiatrists act like kings and queens who assert that they have all the "answers", and if you don't act like a robot in a business suit, and believe in your own unconventional things outside of your culture, than you are "ill" and or "wrong."
I realized that therapist is actually "the rapist."
It's funny, and sad, but true.
They play mind f*cks with you.

FreakOfTheDemonDoll wrote:It's becoming that for me, the "everyone else is f**ked up."

You always want to think it would be you if that's the common denominator, but indeed we often forget, society can also be that common denominator. At the same time, we do have to find ways to coexist, and to diminish the conflicts between ourselves and others.

A month in and I've calmed down by quite a lot from this post. Things are far less stressful, and my quality of life has improved.