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The Real Question: Alternatives

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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby Sonseearae » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:00 pm

quackery wrote:If you want a working solution, you must first describe your problem. Everybody's problem in life is different. Do you have a problem with your behavior, or your feelings, or your thoughts? What problem do you have?


You saved me a bit of writing because I was going to ask the same questions. I'm afraid that all we can do is tell you what has worked for us but as quackery has pointed out, someone who has achieved satisfactory results using alternatives to psychotherapy etc., for schizophrenia is going to have an entirely different game plan than someone suffering from social anxiety.
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby SurvivalZ » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:51 am

You'll not change if you don't change your subconscious mind. It's simple. Some quotes:

"Sigmund Freud was first impressed by the therapeutic potential of hypnosis for neurotic disorders."
"As he began to develop his system of psychoanalysis, theoretical considerations, as well as the difficulty he encountered in hypnotizing some patients, led Freud to discard hypnosis in favour of free association."

I think that was his huge mistake. Today, psychotherapy can tell you what cause your problems but psychotherapy will not give you solution for your problems. You need to change your subconscious mind. That is solution.

But problem is that some hypnotherapist can be trained on some short course and/or can be not enough experienced. So, PSTEC is therapeutic method which is developed by well known hypnotherapist years after years, and proved it's efficiency on thousands and thousands of people (not only with social anxiety). And yes, it include possibility of changing in your behavior, feelings, or your thoughts. That's my own experience. Why just not try for yourself? First with free audio track for emotions. Than you'll see...
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby Malasha » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:14 pm

There is an alternative this is a meditation.
All the condition type of the anxiety , voices, depression, hallucinations, aggression, obsessive thoughts, etc. arise due to strong internal tensions.
You must learn to keep track of this tension and relax that is to go out on your comfortable state.
Pay attention to the tension of the muscles of the face and head.
The tension can be in any part of the body, but effectively remove it you can only at the level of the face and head.

The goal is not to relieve this tension, but to find a comfortable condition at this tension.
Just do not think that in this way you will be able to remove all the symptoms.You will only be able to feel comfortable at any symptoms.
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby SurvivalZ » Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:17 am

Yes, meditation is nice but it's not therapy. If you want serious changes (in your subconscious mind and in your life), you need something like PSTEC. I used Yoga Nidra, but that was not enough for me so I quit. I also visited local hypnotherapists and that helped me a lot but I needed to work more on my problems, so I choose PSTEC, therapeutic system, for work at home.
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby Malasha » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:19 am

SurvivalZ wrote:Yes, meditation is nice but it's not therapy. If you want serious changes (in your subconscious mind and in your life


Why do you need to change your subconscious?
This is just a technique to reach a comfortable state on any symptoms.
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby SurvivalZ » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:56 pm

Malasha wrote:Why do you need to change your subconscious?
This is just a technique to reach a comfortable state on any symptoms.

If you want to live like that, than OK. But, it's not good enough for me. :)
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby pisceandream » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:35 am

SurvivalZ wrote:
Malasha wrote:Why do you need to change your subconscious?
This is just a technique to reach a comfortable state on any symptoms.

If you want to live like that, than OK. But, it's not good enough for me. :)


This is pretty much where I'm at too. I want to really get to the core of my problems and actually fix myself, just keeping the symptoms at bay isn't good enough anymore. I want to live life fully! Emotionally, physically, spiritually....and accessing and changing the subconscious seem like an obvious direction to go for that deeper healing.
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby Malasha » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:45 pm

pisceandream wrote: I want to live life fully! Emotionally, physically, spiritually....and accessing and changing the subconscious seem like an obvious direction to go for that deeper healing.


Schizophrenia can be treated but cannot be cured. Alas! :(
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby quackery » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:53 pm

Please do not censor my post.

Anxiety is when you are trying too hard to be perfect. Recognize situations that do not require perfection, and think "I do not have to be perfect, I should take this easy, it doesn't matter all".

Depression is when you are not achieving your goals, think of your goals and do whatever you can to achieve them!

Stress is the same as depression.

Manics is when you felt like sh*t and now something good happened, so you finally are happier, and you feel overly too much happy. Make sure you keep up the good work to stop feeling like sh*t. Then you will never have depression or mania again. Bipolar doesn't exist!

Schizophrenia is when you are too isolated from other people, so that you start being afraid, and while you experience an intense fear you believe anything, any of your fearful ideas. You can beat it by talking to others again, becoming a part of the society, making friends, then you stop being afraid, and you are OK again.

Drugs from quacks are all brain disrupting and disabling, none of them has ever helped anyone. People who became OK would be OK without those drugs. People who committed a suicide would NOT have committed it if they weren't terrorized and forced to take those life damaging drugs.

Finally, as I have covered everything important, there is a drug cartel in the USA which makes 40 billions dollars a year selling disabling and crippling drugs nobody needs. Psychiatry is that drug cartel. The cartel has been sponsoring psychiatry, and without the cartel psychiatry does not exist. It is all about lying, lying, and lying to sell crippling and disabling drugs that nobody needs, and to make billions of dollars on selling them.

I hope my stuff does not get censored, so that people see the result of years of my doctoral research on these subjects. I know the real "cure" to anxiety, bipolar, depression, and suicadability. All other stuff is also a BS, not at all based on facts. They are just psychiatric constructions without any evidence, and having nothing to do with the reality. ###$ psychiatric constructions!
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Re: The Real Question: Alternatives

Postby Malasha » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:45 am

quackery wrote:Anxiety is when you are trying too hard to be perfect. Recognize situations that do not require perfection, and think "I do not have to be perfect, I should take this easy, it doesn't matter all".

Depression is when you are not achieving your goals, think of your goals and do whatever you can to achieve them!

Stress is the same as depression.

Manics is when you felt like sh*t and now something good happened, so you finally are happier, and you feel overly too much happy. Make sure you keep up the good work to stop feeling like sh*t. Then you will never have depression or mania again. Bipolar doesn't exist!

Schizophrenia is when you are too isolated from other people, so that you start being afraid, and while you experience an intense fear you believe anything, any of your fearful ideas. You can beat it by talking to others again, becoming a part of the society, making friends, then you stop being afraid, and you are OK again.



I disagree with this a bit. In these conditions the main are not the current life situations and the attitude towards them but the fact that a person's feeling too strong and often strange and incomprehensible to him. In this case normal logic doesn't always work. Rather, it is little. To get out of the disease a person must learn to distinguish his normal feelings from absurd feelings.
He must learn to see how his feelings to fit the situation and learn to control the feelings.
And he has to accept as the norm any feelings and conditions and not be afraid of them.
The notion of norm must be extended for the person.
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