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Postby Riccola » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:33 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:In my last post that I posted yesterday, half the post got screwed up and I lost it while trying to post it.... So I will post a condensed version here because I think it is important to tell YOU what I saw and heard while working at the rehab work facility for human beings with various disabilities etc....

We had a work crew made up of human beings with various disabilities and a supervisor (Me) working on a project of filling ten's of thousands plastic eggs with extra strong laundry detergent. We were doing this for a couple of weeks when one of the workers who was kind of slow and the rest of us covered for him... The interesting part of the story is that one day he picked up speed of filling these eggs accurately to about TEN TIMES what he had been doing, we just watched him do this in amazement.... He worked the rest of the day at this speed and had the biggest smile on his face because he knew he was being exceptional, we were all happy for him because he was being NORMAL and or EXCEPTIONALLY ABOVE NORMAL....

I went to higher ups in the chain of command at the end of the day and told them what had happened and did they have any ideas of why and or could we duplicate what had just happened...
They just laughed and could care less about the MIRACLE we saw, the next day this worker went back to the old slow speed he had been doing.... This and many, many other examples of observations that I put on my recorders are sitting in my basement and what MIRACLES might be on these recordings and now YOU might understand my frustrations because nobody gives a $#%^....


Kindness, I care. I get where you are coming from. When a person feels welcomed in a group they flourish. Peer support is powerful, we thrive on acceptance. We need validation and we need someone to care for as we are being cared for.

Many people struggling with mental illness fall short if this basic human need at no fault of their own. Being able to give that to them, and really anyone, makes a world of difference.
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:51 pm

Here is another group of observations I made at this rehab. work facility in NEW JERSEY, USA.... In the beginning I saw clients acting out and or having a bad day's etc. on a daily bases in the cafeteria and or our work area etc.... This means their was a mental health crisis of sorts almost every day at our facility and people sent to the hospital at least once a week etc.... Now unknown to any of us at the time we the support staff started a program of -ACTS OF KINDNESS- which created an -ATMOSPHERE OF KINDNESS- at this rehab. facility.... After about a year of this ATMOSPHERE OF KINDNESS we started to notice less acting out by clients and or clients actually coming to the support staff and asking us could we HELP this client etc. etc. etc.... We the support staff and or the clients would help the person having trouble and only go to the professionals if necessary. CLIENTS knew more about their condition then the professionals and the clients saw there fellow clients all day long not just for fifteen minutes a day....

After about two years of an -ATMOSPHERE OF KINDNESS- by -ACTS OF KINDNESS- by support staff and the clients themselves almost all negative acts were gone by the clients and MOST IMPORTANTLY THEIR WERE NO MORE PASSIVE SUICIDES AND OR VIOLENT SUICIDES BY PAST AND OR CURRENT CLIENTS....
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:40 am

I just read an article on -MILITARY SUICIDES- in the NEW YORK TIMES, this article and others about MILITARY SUICIDES made me feel very sad because I have hinted in the past -POSTS- that we solved this problem to a large degree at the rehab. work facility in NEW JERSEY, USA.... Passive Suicide was used by former and current clients and or Violent Suicide was used but at a lower amount of times, ten Passive Suicides to one Violent Suicide.... (This is my opinion as to the kinds and numbers of Suicides...)

The MILITARY SUICIDES AND OR MENTAL HEALTH SUICIDES have a lot in common and the vast number of SUICIDES could have been prevented but nobody really gives a DAMN.... I am sorry if I sound like a broken record, I spent almost five years and thousands of dollars of my own money trying to interest any professionals etc. in my observations etc. to stop the MENTAL HEALTH AND MILITARY SUICIDES.... Nobody and I mean nobody out of the thousands of contacts gave a DAMN by showing any interest..... So I have dozens of milk crates full of observations etc. sitting in my basement that could be used in STOPPING MOST OF THESE PASSIVE AND VIOLENT SUICIDES IN THE MENTAL HEALTH AND OR MILITARY.... LIKE I SAID NOBODY BUT NOBODY GIVES A DAMN....
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:28 am

I have been following the posts in this forum looking for a answer and or answers to try and stop the suffering and or pain and or suicides etc. etc. etc.... Perhaps the answer might be a way for the average human being with mental illness etc. etc. etc... to be able to HELP themselves and get real HELP without the B... S... that comes with the mental health industry... Do we still believe in MIRACLES and or HELPING ourselves deal with all the issues connected with mental illness...???

I saw a TV show that was explaining how they were helping people with AGGRESSIVE PHYISCAL THERAPY and they seemed to be getting results...??? That is when I put this idea together with my ideas about KINDNESS THERAPY and what would happen if YOU combined these two ideas of AGGRESSIVE KINDNESS THERAPY... What might happen if we could get results from these ideas...???
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Postby Riccola » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:55 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:I have been following the posts in this forum looking for a answer and or answers to try and stop the suffering and or pain and or suicides etc. etc. etc.... Perhaps the answer might be a way for the average human being with mental illness etc. etc. etc... to be able to HELP themselves and get real HELP without the B... S... that comes with the mental health industry... Do we still believe in MIRACLES and or HELPING ourselves deal with all the issues connected with mental illness...???

I saw a TV show that was explaining how they were helping people with AGGRESSIVE PHYISCAL THERAPY and they seemed to be getting results...??? That is when I put this idea together with my ideas about KINDNESS THERAPY and what would happen if YOU combined these two ideas of AGGRESSIVE KINDNESS THERAPY... What might happen if we could get results from these ideas...???



IMO aggression helps nothing. The entire industry is built on aggression, force, callousness, arrogance, domination, ect all which are intentionally implemented as such to bring in profit under the cloak of "helping" people. Now, if we bring intense kindness, respect and open ears to those who are suffering, no aggression would be needed. People will come and begin to get better without force.
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:02 pm

Riccola etc... You are correct in showing that AGGRESSIIVE KINDNESS might be the wrong way to word my idea with the mental health community...??? My idea still has merit and we have too see the best way to word the idea.... THANK YOU....
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:50 am

Riccola etc... Here is a strange question, I am hoping that somebody can answer it... Does anyone know a blind person from birth that has serious mental health issues and or a blind person with serious mental health issues that became blind later on in their life...??? You might wonder why I am interested in this subject matter, research into mental illness can take many directions... THANK YOU.... ( I hope that this question is not upsetting to anybody)...
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:48 pm

FRUSTRATION - FRUSTRATION - FRUSTRATION-, This forum has thousands of people reading and or posting ideas and comments about mental health issues etc. etc. etc... I have asked for help from this community on some of my ideas that I have developed over the years in dealing with mental health issues etc... Except for the same few people I have received next to nothing in help from this community, which means that YOU human beings with mental health issues are happy complaining about your problems but do next to nothing to try and solve your mental health issues... YOU let the mental health industry treat YOU like animals and still YOU do next to nothing to stop these human rights issues being violated etc. etc. etc....

YOU are outraged at my comments but still offer me no help and my FRUSTRATION grows because I might have come up with ideas (FREE) that might help YOU big time... NOW why am I posting these harsh comment now, last night I was enjoying a musical concert by my grandson and other young children and what pops into my mind??? A sure fired way that WE can give each other a way to produce a -MIRACLE-, yes I said that YOU can produce -MIRACLES- etc... Throughout history some people have produced a MIRACLE and or MIRACLES and last night it came to me how they did it...

THANK YOU for letting me post my FRUSTRATIONS...
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Postby Riccola » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:48 pm

I hear you :)

How would this miracle work? What does it look like? Lots of good insight so far, Im curious to hear about this. I want to know more. :)
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:34 pm

Riccola etc... From past experiences observing human beings with mental health issues etc., I have seen many human beings improve dramatically with all sorts of mental health issues... I have seen these improvements only in a group situation etc. not in a individual situation... We used -KINDNESS THERAPY- etc. which enhances the -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- that flood our bodies about 10% of the time using -KINDNESS THERPY... These -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- are the key to producing -MIRACLES-... (my opinion)...

These -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- in our bodies are released when we do something and or somebody does something to us that is positive etc., this can only be done about maximum 10% of the time... (my opinion)...
Throughout history many individuals have produced -MIRACLES- because they were using their -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- most of the time, way above the 10% of the time... Example of people who used this gift is Mother Teresa who did numerous -MIRACLES- in her lifetime... She was helping human beings in distress and when she came across a person that was using their -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- most of their time, a -MIRACLE- was produced... Theoretically anybody that can build up their positive etc. time can produce their own -MIRACLES-...(my opinion)...
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