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-INSIGHT INTO MENTAL ILLNESS-

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:06 am

The following idea might give -YOU- some insight as to why MENTAL ILLNESS is promoted so successfully by the MENTAL HEALTH INDUSTRY... Almost everybody that works in the mental health
Industry is a LIBERAL, think about what I have said...

Almost ALL liberals use and or allow ABORTION to be used as birth control and or to stop your kind from having children that might have mental illness in their future...

LIBERALS never solve any problems that our society has, because they make money on other peoples suffering and or whatever problems they have convinced us needs their help...

LIBERALS KILL and or destroy millions of unborn babies every year and they allow and or kill tens of thousands of human beings with MENTAL ILLNESS by forcing these human beings to commit SUICIDE (PASSIVE and or VIOLENT)...

LIBERALS use drugs to control human beings and this means that MILLIONS of human beings have to suffer everyday, 24 hours a day everyday for years until these human beings are forced to commit -SUICIDE- to end their suffering...

When somebody with MENTAL ILLNESS is forced to commit SUICIDE by LIBERALS that human being thinks that they are going to -HELL- for abandoning -GOD- and their RELIGION etc. etc. etc. by committing -SUICIDE-....

ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC... (IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING THAT THESE LIBERALS AND LIBERALISM use to destroy your lives, please feel free to post them...)
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Re: -INSIGHT INTO MENTAL ILLNESS-

Postby Riccola » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:37 pm

The scary part imo they are just taking orders, following what they were lead to believe. To me not only are those taking orders a concern, but who creates them in the first place.

Psychiatry is nothing more than a pseudo science rooted in eugenics and control no matter what mission statements or university courses say.

I agree with your theory that those suffering with mental illness are failed by the system to the point they commit passive or active suicide. The system is not designed to heal them, its designed to be a profit engine.


I have long had a theory, if not a gut feeling, those at the top know exactly what those suffering with mental illness need to recover or lead productive lives, but it will never come to light because profit and eugenics are the true objective.
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:57 am

Riccola etc. - YOU are correct in your observations and I will print more of my observations and -IF- HUMAN BEINGS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS care and or give a damn they might join the conversation... (LEMMINGS DON'T CARE, THEY JOIN ALL THE OTHER LEMMINGS AND COMMIT SUICIDE...)
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Postby quackery » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:38 am

Riccola wrote:Psychiatry is nothing more than a pseudo science rooted in eugenics and control no matter what mission statements or university courses say.

I agree with your theory that those suffering with mental illness are failed by the system to the point they commit passive or active suicide. The system is not designed to heal them, its designed to be a profit engine.


I agree with both of the quoted statements.

Here are my 2 cents to the discussion (only facts):
Mental illness does not exist. It is only a metaphor for behaviors that are unacceptable. A book which classifies annoying or unacceptable behaviors exists (DSM).

Cure or treatment for unacceptable behaviors is a nonsense and will never exist. Brain-disabling drugs however do exist.

And so people are getting brain assaulted and brain disabled for behaviors that the society will not tolerate. Once you are seen having any of the forbidden behaviors described in the DSM, you get a life-time pseudoscientific label and you are likely to get killed by brain-disabling drugs. Those drugs are also actively doing a brain damage, so you will be disabled even if you stop taking them.

Everything regarding treatment, help, support, concern about you, all of that is BS to make you more compliant with the brain-disabling drug. The successes of these drugs are also BS. I have been personally a victim of a quack who wrote things into the reports that were absolutely not true, and he just falsified how terribly seriously ill I was (when I am healthy), and how exceptionally efficient the drug is (when I was just telling him what he wanted to hear to get released, and I was spitting the drug out because it was severely disabling me and made me very suicidal. I was never suicidal ever, I have a happy life, it was 100% the drug, and the moment I started spitting it out the problem immediately stopped).

So once again, mental illness does not exist, ordinary behaviors that are unacceptable by the society do exist, instead of solving the cause of those behaviors you will be brain assaulted with brain disabling drugs, BSed, and coerced to take them against your will, or injected, and you can also get the community assault team to come inject you into your house, or quacks who make you much worse in their report than you really are, and they do it by writing extremely negative things, and skipping everything good or objective about you.

Since it is a pseudoscience, and they have the absolute power while you have none, your opinion is completely excluded, truth and facts are never written there, never validated, verified, or proven (scientifically or otherwise), and the only thing in this pseudoscience is a quack's opinion. That very opinion is always subjective, disputable, unscientific, based on limited insights of the quack, and in my experience based on the need to fill hospital beds at every cost, and prescribe dangerous drugs to everybody who gets into the quacks hands at every cost, even at the cost of falsifying information, and making terribly exaggerated arguments without any evidence, incl. a very negative prognosis saying your health will worsen if you do not use the brain disabling drug. (and as we know that mental disorder does not exist, only behavior exists, we also know that behavior has nothing to do with health, and that brain disabling drug has to do with health, and terribly much. That very argument is therefore a BS because health will worsen with the brain disabling / damaging drug, and behavior can be ALWAYS improved without any drugs.)

There is no drug in the world that cures any behaviors, and all psychiatric drugs only disable you, so that your behavior stops being visible to others. Even if you are not doing anything wrong like in my case, there can be just one crime report you made, and when it sounds hard to believe and you have no evidence to prove it happened, there can be a quack arguing with you that you made it up, and that it means you are severely mentally ill, delusional, paranoid, etc. (all the bunch of BS based on water, he has no evidence things did not happen. But because it is a pseudoscience he does not have to prove anything, he has his opinion, locks you up, prescribes dangerous disabling drugs, and labels you for life-time.)

btw. the original post at the top lacks logic. There are not any connections to say A causes B. I disagree with that post, but if the author wanted to say that quacks will disable you using serious drugs just for having (once) in their opinion an unacceptable behavior, and that they will label you with a derogatory label for life-time, knowingly harm your real health and BS you they are helping you, I would agree with this. I also agree that anyone with disrupted brain function (blocked dopamine or serotonine) is always very much at risk of committing a suicide and yes, probably all people can recover from any bad behavior on their own and live a normal life for as long as they have opportunities to socialize with other people.

Behavior is a knowledge / education / reasoning / perception problem. Behavior is not illness, and behavior cannot possibly be treated or cured, and by disabling you it makes you always worse, your real health suffers, and your behavior is never fixed because when disabled, you cannot socialize with anyone, you get even more isolated, and yes, you may decide to end your life because you do not know what to do.
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Re: -INSIGHT INTO MENTAL ILLNESS-

Postby Riccola » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:15 am

Riccola etc. - YOU are correct in your observations and I will print more of my observations and -IF- HUMAN BEINGS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS care and or give a damn they might join the conversation... (LEMMINGS DON'T CARE, THEY JOIN ALL THE OTHER LEMMINGS AND COMMIT SUICIDE...)


I would be more than happy to here your thoughts :)

If the system trully cared, trully changed I belive those suffering with meantal illness would stop commiting suicide, crimes, ect. I belive they would flourish, becoming happy productive members. Recovery rates would take a complete polar shift.


quackery wrote:
Riccola wrote:Psychiatry is nothing more than a pseudo science rooted in eugenics and control no matter what mission statements or university courses say.

I agree with your theory that those suffering with mental illness are failed by the system to the point they commit passive or active suicide. The system is not designed to heal them, its designed to be a profit engine.




I agree with both of the quoted statements.

Here are my 2 cents to the discussion (only facts):
Mental illness does not exist. It is only a metaphor for behaviors that are unacceptable. A book which classifies annoying or unacceptable behaviors exists (DSM).

Cure or treatment for unacceptable behaviors is a nonsense and will never exist. Brain-disabling drugs however do exist.

And so people are getting brain assaulted and brain disabled for behaviors that the society will not tolerate. Once you are seen having any of the forbidden behaviors described in the DSM, you get a life-time pseudoscientific label and you are likely to get killed by brain-disabling drugs. Those drugs are also actively doing a brain damage, so you will be disabled even if you stop taking them.


All great points, worth more than 2 cents imo :D

Psychitrists beleived back then the mentally ill needed to have over active parts of their mind destroyed, removed or sectioned off, so patients would become more docile. This is where labotomies came in, latter going to electroshock, then as time progressed the concept of brain disabling shifted to disabling via chemicals.

The treatments have changed, however the underlying theory which supports it still remains despite the lack of tangible real world scientific evidence to back it up.


Everything regarding treatment, help, support, concern about you, all of that is BS to make you more compliant with the brain-disabling drug. The successes of these drugs are also BS. I have been personally a victim of a quack who wrote things into the reports that were absolutely not true, and he just falsified how terribly seriously ill I was (when I am healthy), and how exceptionally efficient the drug is (when I was just telling him what he wanted to hear to get released, and I was spitting the drug out because it was severely disabling me and made me very suicidal. I was never suicidal ever, I have a happy life, it was 100% the drug, and the moment I started spitting it out the problem immediately stopped).


I am soory you were put through that :( Thats is unfair, emotional torture if anything.


Everything including discharge from a metal health facilty requires medication complaince. Everything is around getting you on medication and keeping you on it. Psychiatrits will make stuff up, and even go as far as provocking sysmtoms just to get a diagnosis. they do it because the system lets them get away with it.

I bleive you 100% when you say the drugs made you suicidal. Had I not seen it first hand in dozens upon dozens of people I might not belive it. But I do beleive it now. The side effects are real, and some indeed become manic, depressed, violtent, suicidal or psychotic when given psycotropics.
some dont even have a prior history. I have known people hospitilised over medication because the symtoms were so serve.

A common theme (for example) I have seen are people recieving a depression diagnosis, given SSRIs, only to have severe mania episode a week or two latter. Being hospitalised is not uncommon in cases like this. They then are then diagnosed with bi-polar and mood stablisers begin.

Theories start that these people had undiagnosed bi-polar, and lets say they did, its irelevant. No one deserves to go to a psychiatrist and get worse.


So once again, mental illness does not exist, ordinary behaviors that are unacceptable by the society do exist, instead of solving the cause of those behaviors you will be brain assaulted with brain disabling drugs, BSed, and coerced to take them against your will, or injected, and you can also get the community assault team to come inject you into your house, or quacks who make you much worse in their report than you really are, and they do it by writing extremely negative things, and skipping everything good or objective about you.



Bingo. Psychiatry does not target the root of those behavors, some of which arent even in need of correcting, rather it sucks a person into a system centered around mind altering psycotropics. Once you get sucked in psychiatry will use what ever immoral, deceptive and covert means to keep you in it. Not all psychiatrists or institions are like that, but some do exist that are like that.



Since it is a pseudoscience, and they have the absolute power while you have none, your opinion is completely excluded, truth and facts are never written there, never validated, verified, or proven (scientifically or otherwise), and the only thing in this pseudoscience is a quack's opinion. That very opinion is always subjective, disputable, unscientific, based on limited insights of the quack, and in my experience based on the need to fill hospital beds at every cost, and prescribe dangerous drugs to everybody who gets into the quacks hands at every cost, even at the cost of falsifying information, and making terribly exaggerated arguments without any evidence, incl. a very negative prognosis saying your health will worsen if you do not use the brain disabling drug. (and as we know that mental disorder does not exist, only behavior exists, we also know that behavior has nothing to do with health, and that brain disabling drug has to do with health, and terribly much. That very argument is therefore a BS because health will worsen with the brain disabling / damaging drug, and behavior can be ALWAYS improved without any drugs.)





I agree, the patient is entirelly underminded. Behavior does not need drugs, it needs empathy. It need understanding.

There is no drug in the world that cures any behaviors, and all psychiatric drugs only disable you, so that your behavior stops being visible to others. Even if you are not doing anything wrong like in my case, there can be just one crime report you made, and when it sounds hard to believe and you have no evidence to prove it happened, there can be a quack arguing with you that you made it up, and that it means you are severely mentally ill, delusional, paranoid, etc. (all the bunch of BS based on water, he has no evidence things did not happen. But because it is a pseudoscience he does not have to prove anything, he has his opinion, locks you up, prescribes dangerous disabling drugs, and labels you for life-time.)

btw. the original post at the top lacks logic. There are not any connections to say A causes B. I disagree with that post, but if the author wanted to say that quacks will disable you using serious drugs just for having (once) in their opinion an unacceptable behavior, and that they will label you with a derogatory label for life-time, knowingly harm your real health and BS you they are helping you, I would agree with this. I also agree that anyone with disrupted brain function (blocked dopamine or serotonine) is always very much at risk of committing a suicide and yes, probably all people can recover from any bad behavior on their own and live a normal life for as long as they have opportunities to socialize with other people.

Behavior is a knowledge / education / reasoning / perception problem. Behavior is not illness, and behavior cannot possibly be treated or cured, and by disabling you it makes you always worse, your real health suffers, and your behavior is never fixed because when disabled, you cannot socialize with anyone, you get even more isolated, and yes, you may decide to end your life because you do not know what to do.


I am out of time, I wish to add more :( , but so far great input :D
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