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Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:18 pm

Germany's Die Welt has reported that the German pilot who apparently deliberately crashed a commercial passenger plane had antidepressant drugs in his home, according to CNN.

http://www.madinamerica.com/forums/topic/andreas-lubitz-germanwings-pilot-anti-depressants/

According to the black box warnings, antidepressant drugs such as Paxil, Prozac & Zoloft, can have serious side effects such as suicidal thoughts or actions.
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Riccola » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:18 pm

This has psychiatry written all over it. I was listening in on the News a day ago and they said the same thing. He was on psychotropics. But knowing psychiatry they will play "correlation does not imply causation" rather than seriously take into account what these drugs do. :roll:
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:17 pm

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I was watching some TV news about this plane crash and they refuse to mention anything about the psychiatric drugs this pilot 'may' have been taking.

I did notice that they stopped playing the "ask your doctor" ads for anything that comes with those black box suicide thought and action warnings like they always do when these stories come out. Those ads will be back as soon as this story recedes from the headlines.

Has anyone else noticed how the big news channels pull the pharma ads for 'suicide pills' like Chantix when these stories make headlines ?
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Riccola » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:35 pm

I have noticed that. Psychiatrists are not dumb, at least those who create the system. They know how to hide an inconvenient truth, and certainly know how to get into the minds of everyone to see the world as they want them to.
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Cruxx » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:34 pm

While not disputing that an anti-depressant is an influence in this Very Strange event,
none of the proposed explanations I have encountered look anything like adequate.

This is a timid guy {initially described as mild-mannered, well liked}
who suddenly switches to a suicidal mass murderer.

Nobody saw it coming.

By conventional thinking, the wheels tend to fall off one at a time,
over a period in which hints of abberration are observed.

Not this time.
Like pushing a button, this guy switches to an extreme change of values.
To a deliberate planned military-style operation.

Like he had been hypnotised and triggered.
But with no politics in the background - who wins ? from a bunch of dead people ?
Seriously. Important question - who benefits from switching Andreas to Robot ?

Who would have a motive for hypnotising Andreas and pulling the trigger ?
Nobody human.

But a mind-parasite fits the facts.
A weak character,
further de-stabilised by an anti-depressant
and plenty of freshly-dead to feast on
[sudden death releases more life-energy than they can get by milking].

These things are sort-of smart . . .
adaptive, as distinct from profoundly intelligent {ie no egalitarian conversation to be had}.
Enough smarts to put together a strategy like hiJacking a doped Andreas.

Those stories about demonic possession didn't come from noWhere.
At least one Jesus story in the New Testament
[demons driven into the swine of Galadrene - who promptly drowned themselves ! ]

Strongest hypothesis I can come up with. Sorry about that, Chief.

And as Sherlock Holmes famously observed :
"once you have eliminated the impossible, the improbable becomes the working hypothesis".
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:36 pm

Antidepressant Made Germanwings Co-pilot “Panic”

March 6, 2016

Germanwings pilot Andreas Lubitz wrote, in a desperate, final email to his psychiatrist two weeks before slamming his A320 jet into the French Alps one year ago, that the antidepressant Mirtazepine made him "restless" and was causing him to "panic."


More → http://www.madinamerica.com/2016/03/73579/#/more-73579




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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby NoM8s » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:36 pm

It's not really keeping it that secret when the stuff comes with a warning about the possible side effects. You're supposed to talk to your doctor about it if you get them. I mean your GP. Yeah, they don't really want inconvenient stories like this scaring people as medical orthodoxy is that depression can require medicating, like hunger can require feeding. Probably what happens is that they just take the pills and go about their business without keeping talking to doctors about how they're working and don't see this sort of thing as a side effect of anything apart from depression.
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Cruxx » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:00 am

Antidepressant may play a part in the dynamics of the decisions that led to this mass murder.
However, i do not see reuptake inhibitors that elevate neurotransmitter levels as playing a definitive role in the kind of thinking that led to such a treacherous scheme.
To my understanding, this event is entirely explained by the preColumbian identification of inorganic beings that feed on grief, anger and bloodshed. This species is documented in the chapter "Mud Shadows" of the anthropological disclosures in "The Active Side of Infinity.
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Re: Germanwings Pilot Andreas Lubitz SSRIs

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:58 pm

Cruxx wrote:i do not see reuptake inhibitors that elevate neurotransmitter levels as playing a definitive role in the kind of thinking that led to such a treacherous scheme.


More like the intensity of the thinking and egging it on I guess, lots of webpages explaining this.

http://www.google.com/search?q=akathisia+suicide+homicide+ssri
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