leaving the state to avoid involuntary commitment

hello! can one leave the state to avoid being further committed on a 90 day commitment? Would you be arrested in another state even if there is no criminal charges involved? What would you recommend to avoid commitment? thanks.

Depends. If it is a court order, you MUST do it, or else there will be felony criminal charges pressed against you.

What they would probably do is have police come and arrest you, and then take you back to whichever courthouse you were in when you got the court order, and then you'd serve it, plus a fine probably, plus jail time probably, and maybe even a longer stay at the hospital. Really, if it's a court order, you're best off just accepting it. It might suck, yes, but is it worth having a criminal record over? Is it worth running from the law enforcement?

tropisms wrote:hello! can one leave the state to avoid being further committed on a 90 day commitment? Would you be arrested in another state even if there is no criminal charges involved? What would you recommend to avoid commitment? thanks.

Of course you can leave the state !!!

Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of ... States_law

http://www.google.com/search?q=right+to+travel

-- Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:12 am --

Tyler77 wrote:Depends. If it is a court order, you MUST do it, or else there will be felony criminal charges pressed against you.

What they would probably do is have police come and arrest you, and then take you back to whichever courthouse you were in when you got the court order, and then you'd serve it, plus a fine probably, plus jail time probably, and maybe even a longer stay at the hospital. Really, if it's a court order, you're best off just accepting it. It might suck, yes, but is it worth having a criminal record over? Is it worth running from the law enforcement?

Why did you tell this person the above scary stuff when they wrote "no criminal charges involved" ?

tropisms wrote:Would you be arrested in another state even if there is no criminal charges involved?

tropisms , you are not the property of or a slave to those doctors or hospitals.

You are human being with God given rights, NEVER forget that. It's you body and your life no one else's.

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tropisms wrote:What would you recommend to avoid commitment?

Forced Drugging Defense Package

The Forced Drugging Defense Package developed by the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights for the MindFreedom Shield program.


http://www.mindfreedom.org/campaign/shield/forced-drug-defense-pkg/defense-package

-- Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:37 am --

I would also recommend you do not use the argument "I am not mentally ill" when confronted with psychiatry and involuntary commitment. Skip that.

Better to argue "I am not dangerous" because danger is an essential requirement for involuntary commitment and the deprivation of civil rights that goes along with it.

It is NOT illegal to be mentally ill.

Like I said there are no charges, no criminal angle involved, it is a civil involuntary commitment. What law would that be breaking? How would I face felony charges? Copy cat can you clarify more on what to do?

Copy_Cat wrote:tropisms , you are not the property of or a slave to those doctors or hospitals.

You are human being with God given rights, NEVER forget that. It's you body and your life no one else's.

Go easy on Tyler77

Perhaps he just wanted to say what might happen if a court order existed or he missed that part in tropisms's post. Sometimes that happens. In no way am I advocating or supporting tyranny when I say this.

However I do agree with everything else, we need a system that respects the US constitution along with individual human rights.

I am saying that there is a court order involved there is just no criminal aspect to it. I have not been charged with crimes nor am involved with charges whatsoever. I am asking straightforward question of what happens if I just leave the state to avoid a civil commitment.

Ok, my apologies, I misunderstood

To be honest I do not know what would happen, I will let someone with more knowledge on the subject give input, but considering its court ordered then I would imagine that their could be repercussions.

Copy_Cat brings up a good point. To my knowledge in some states a person can only be forcibly committed if the person is an immediate danger to himself or others. You would somehow have to prove that you are not a danger. My advice is don't run, but rather use all legal avenues to prove to the court you do not require commitment.


**Also, just a friendly reminder to everyone that per forum rules we can not encourage or give advice on how to facilitate illegal acts. All discussion and links must be in support of the law. So far all is good, just tossing this it out there in regard to any future posters.

tropisms wrote:I am saying that there is a court order involved there is just no criminal aspect to it. I have not been charged with crimes nor am involved with charges whatsoever. I am asking straightforward question of what happens if I just leave the state to avoid a civil commitment.

Interstate Extradition in the United States.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Interstate+Extradition+in+the+United+States

http://www.shestokas.com/general-law/interstate-extradition-in-the-united-states/

I can state with confidence that their is nothing they can do and that law enforcement is not going to dedicate any resources into extraditing or even looking for you. It just won't happen.

I was pulled over in my car and they checked everyone's ID and one of my passengers had a misdemeanor warrant for failure to appear on an assault charge in a different state and he was not arrested. The cop just said "you better take care of that" and these cops were not just giving him a break they were real jerks and were nasty to us.

In California alone, there are 252,000 outstanding felony warrants, according to the office of the state attorney general. Of these warrants, approximately 2,800 are for homicide, 640 are for kidnapping, and 1,800 are for sexual assault suspects.

In Florida, the total number of outstanding warrants, both felony and misdemeanor, is 325,000, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. There are 898 homicide warrants, 273 kidnapping warrants and 565 sexual assault warrants outstanding.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125876

Again there is no way they are going to dedicate any resources into finding a person simply accused of refusing psychiatry, the quacks and there pills. It will never happen.

They have millions of bigger fish to fry.