leaving the state to avoid involuntary commitment

thanks copy cat. I am sure that there would be nothing that they would be able to do, especially if I just left the county. I was not arrested or have charges and it is completely civil. I am just having trouble finding information about what could happen and from what little I have read from other peoples stories is that they have left the state to avoid civil commitment. I am just needing more advice on what to do in this situation other than face a possibility of being recommitted for no reason. I am not a danger to myself or others and have proven to not be considering I am out on the community so I don't see why a judge would have a problem with letting me get off. What criteria needs to be met?

More:

"Failure to comply with an order of assisted outpatient treatment shall not be grounds for involuntary civil commitment or a finding of contempt of court."

http://mentalillnesspolicy.org/kendras-law/text-of-kendras-law.html

It seems they can't do much of anything when people say "screw this".

You are not a criminal and so I am guessing they can't even issue a warrant.

-- Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:21 pm --

tropisms wrote:thanks copy cat. I am sure that there would be nothing that they would be able to do, especially if I just left the county. I was not arrested or have charges and it is completely civil. I am just having trouble finding information about what could happen and from what little I have read from other peoples stories is that they have left the state to avoid civil commitment. I am just needing more advice on what to do in this situation other than face a possibility of being recommitted for no reason. I am not a danger to myself or others and have proven to not be considering I am out on the community so I don't see why a judge would have a problem with letting me get off. What criteria needs to be met?

I think there is little information because there is nothing much they can do and they don't want to just come out and say that.

I would try and contact Mindfreedom and find out what they say. http://www.mindfreedom.org/contact 1-877-MAD-PRID[e] or 1-877-623-7743

Do your have any paperwork from the court and does it make any threats for failure to comply ?

I just have paperwork regarding the commitment. I guess I could be hospitilized and taken out of the outpatient program if the doctor wanted to do that. But right now I am free in the community and the commitment was suppose to expire and he motioned the court for a stay of temporary commitment continuance until the court date where he may be trying to request another commitment which I believe there is no grounds for. I am just wanting all possible information on what to do.

I hope you keep posting and use what you learn from your experience to "pay it forward" by sharing information to help other victims of psychiatry and this wrenched system.

What is your advice? should I just leave this area to avoid possible recommitment? or wait and see what happens and try to get off?

Like Riccola posted. No one here is a lawyer. No opinions given above should be considered legal advice. Laws and their application will vary from country to country and possibly from state to state.

Your best advice is to contact a lawyer in your state. Or if there is a patient support or citizen's advice service. They may also be able to help. No one here can give more than opinions. But you shouldn't base your actions off "guesses" and non professional interpretations of the law. This is too important.

Thank you Ada, excellent advice

In any case consult professionals such as a lawyer. And as I have mentioned before DO NOT run away. Use all legal resources to convince the courts/hospital you are safe and not a danger. This is much easier than breaking the law. I don't want to see one more thing that psychiatry could use against you.

tropisms wrote:What is your advice? should I just leave this area to avoid possible recommitment? or wait and see what happens and try to get off?

Is leaving the area an easy thing to do ?

If you do that they win in a way cause they forced you from your home.

If you really think someone is going to come to your home simply moving even one block away without telling anyone a change of address would likely do the trick. WTF are these quacks going to do have the police going to do go door to door in the whole city ? Ya sure, I think not.

Get a PO box from the post office, UPS store if you need a mailing address.

Have you contacted your lawyer or public defender and do they have a plan for court ?

Ada is right, I am not a lawyer.

I can advise you however to never submit to tyranny and oppression without a fight. Make them earn it.

I understand your concern, however advising a member to flee is against the law which in turn is against forum rules. Even if the OP does flee, in todays age of surveillance and police structure all it takes is one psychiatrist nodding in front of the judge and they will find him. In any case fleeing should not be advised and is certainly not an option. Please do not advice illegal acts. Thanks

Riccola wrote: in todays age of surveillance and police structure all it takes is one psychiatrist nodding in front of the judge and they will find him.

I though I already covered this, the surveillance and police structure is scary but they still don't even have the resources to find millions of real criminals and absconding from psychiatry is about as low on the priority list as it gets.

Anyway I am not advising the OP to run away, but instead wins the court fight and shares how it's done with others facing the same battle.