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Psych's worth based on so-called studies

Postby jdnewell » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:00 am

Of course Psych is worthless in my estimation and always will be, but some would say it has validity because the therapies, and maybe supposedly the diagnoses as well, are largely based on so-called 'studies'. I counter that with the allegation that all those studies are done on people that shrinks have already labelled (sometimes including some "normal" ones for controlled studies). Yet of all those myriad studies I'll wager that nary a one is designed to examine the validity of the labelling process itself. The subjects are already labelled! If you know of an exception then I want to hear about it, but I predict there is no water in that desert!
In reality there's only one true mental illness, and that's choosing Psych as your major.
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Re: Psych's worth based on so-called studies

Postby Riccola » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:15 pm

Nearly all the studies are rigged on special interests or funding. Anything inconvenient is swept under the rug. :( At least that's what I keep hearing and seeing. I have no reason not to believe it.
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Re: Psych's worth based on so-called studies

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:15 pm

Riccola wrote:Nearly all the studies are rigged on special interests or funding. Anything inconvenient is swept under the rug. :( At least that's what I keep hearing and seeing. I have no reason not to believe it.


My favorite example of sweep it under the rug,


"The selling of bipolar disorder stresses that the disorder takes a fearsome toll of suicides. And indeed the controversy surrounding the provocation of suicide by antidepressants has been recast by some as a consequence of mistaken diagnosis. If the treating physician had only realized the patient was bipolar, they would not have mistakenly prescribed an antidepressant. Because of the suicide risk traditionally linked to patients with bipolar disorders who needed hospitalization, most psychiatrists would find it difficult to leave any person with a case of bipolar disorder unmedicated. Yet, the best available evidence shows that unmedicated patients with bipolar disorder do not have a higher risk of suicide.


Storosum and colleagues analyzed all placebo-controlled, double-blind, randomized trials of mood stabilizers for the prevention of manic/depressive episode that were part of a registration dossier submitted to the regulatory authority of the Netherlands, the Medicines Evaluation Board, between 1997 and 2003 [28]. They found four such prophylaxis trials. They compared suicide risk in patients on placebo compared with patients on active medication. Two suicides (493/100,000 person- years of exposure) and eight suicide attempts (1,969/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the group given an active drug (943 patients), but no suicides and two suicide attempts (1,467/100,000 person-years of exposure) occurred in the placebo group (418 patients). Based on these absolute numbers from these four trials, I have calculated (see Figure S1 showing calculation, and see Figure 2) that active agents are most likely to be associated with a 2.22 times greater risk of suicidal acts than placebo (95% CI 0.5, 10.00)."

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/a ... ed.0030185

Here too: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15800158


We will justify coerced drugs on people labelled suicidal but shhh don't tell anyone the drugs make it worse. Just keep that one under the rug !!
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Re: Psych's worth based on so-called studies

Postby Riccola » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:08 pm

And of course the Risperdal lawsuit, where several years ago I told a psych this drug causes nothing but weight gain, ticks, on top of other side effects, only to be told its just rumors having no proof. Well as much as personal observation is up for being purged out of a patient in a psych's office a class action lawsuits are taking place.


http://www.drugwatch.com/risperdal/lawsuits/

http://www.risperdalclassaction.com/


Every single one of these drugs have side effects especially when ignorant psychiatrists can not diagnose properly just prescribing quantities in hopes of getting lethargic effects out of them. As one psych told me "be prepared to trade you psychological anomalies with physical anomalies" :lol: :lol: :(
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