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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Cruxx » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:12 am

Quote : "That's why a shaman's/teacher's job is to teach goodness and how to understand/appreciate all people, NOT reveal the secret knowledge. It is useless for people of 'normal perception' to know all about the things they will never be able to see (before they die)."

Hi Mystica,

I am publishing Forbidden Knowledge
and the background to its invention & imposition
because we are all entitled to the opportunity to strive
for an adventure worthy of our heritage as offspring of the Creator.

What destroys us is ignorance, not knowledge !
There is nothing in the profundities of knowledge that can put man’s authentic interests at risk !

Those who are trapped in domestication and conformity are dupes,
dupes of social hierarchies and deceitful doctrine.

And I refute the idea that I am somehow obliged to appreciate all people.
This is a nonsense.
The degradation of psychopathic cruelty is not something to savour,
but is something to extinguish - as a necessity of social hygiene.

Yes, being trapped in this world is a test. A test of character & intelligence.

Freedom is meaningless in any hierarchy,
because freedom is trumped by rules,
and de-valued by status and influence.

Any hierarchy intends our submission.

Giving everybody a chance to recognise the truth of their situation
and to fight their way free of that predatory confusion
is something I offer, because of loyalty to my fellow humans.

But for the grace of heightened awareness and personal courage,
those docile sufferers are what might have become of me.

What is important about the way we receive information is that we become convinced to act !

The secrets of initiation are symbols of the arrogance of the ancients, keys without a door,
they will get us nowhere.
We can spend our life pursuing secret initiations, and when we finally obtain them,
we’ll discover we have nothing useful.

Our purpose is to evolve, to contribute to the evolution of all-that-is.
By mastering our magical awareness, and by doing what needs to be done.
Enough to be going on with.
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby mystica » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:15 am

Interesting, well, evolution does make sense if every soul is to be freed.

And learning is perhaps not 'cheating' but can be futile with most people.

And I refute the idea that I am somehow obliged to appreciate all people.
This is a nonsense.
The degradation of psychopathic cruelty is not something to savour,
but is something to extinguish - as a necessity of social hygiene.


I've been reading alot about psychopaths today, a lot of my friends, relatives, acquaintances are.. You need to understand they do not choose to be one and therefore are not guilty of it, nor need be exterminated, hated etc. Perhaps this is their punishment from their former lives, to live with a condition which connects their happiness with other people's misery. And to avoid these strives and recognize and stop all damaging behavior is the greatest punishment imaginable; to rob a person of such a big chunk of his personality.

I guess our job is to help them do that - find happiness without hurting others. But it's their job to realize what they are and despite their first intentions, take others' interests into account in a trained and to them unnatural way (which we're to show them). I'm trying to accept the fact that both my parents are unrecognized psychopaths so believe me I know how hard it is. It's like forgiving a serial murderer/rapist.

In the end, we're not 'the judge' but their actions will affect the aftermath, so we can actually help.
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Cruxx » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:11 pm

Evolution makes sense.
Nothing to do with the impossibility of freeing every "soul".

Forgiving those that make a career of harming others is really dumb.
It changes nothing, except inflating your own sense of holier-than-them.

Forgiveness allows the psychopath to continue their cruelties and deceptions,
while laughing up their sleeves at a cheap powerless imitation of Jesus.

Forgiveness makes decency and generosity worthless, meaningless, futile,
by giving the same outcome for those that cheat and spoil everything they touch.

Forgiveness annihilates the natural justice of consequences.
That is what you are advocating.

Forgiveness is part of the parasites' strategy for rendering mankind stupid and docile.
Docile and Stupid is how the farmer wants their human livestock.
And New Age Luvvies are propagating the hidden agenda of the predators on Mankind.

The Lakota had a law [one of very few laws]
"Death for the first proven Lie"
Not as punishment for a rotten morality,
but as a pragmatic and effective method of social hygiene.

That way they weeded out the psychopaths before they injured the trust and goodwill
that is a prerequisite for living without the dysfunctional carpet-legislation
that the whiteman has imposed on everybody.

Think about how it would change everything if there were no liars.

No need for cynicism, suspicion, defensiveness.
That is one aspect of the freedom the whiteman destroyed,
while calling them savages, exterminating the Bison that fed them, and stealing the land.

The Lakota had no police, no prisons, no taxes
for thousands of years, a stable society in which freedom
was more than an empty word in the mouths of politicians.

The idea that we can heal the spiritually dead
is as absurd as a God-of-Love torturing innocent unBelievers Forever.

You want to heroically help ?
Help yourself by thinking clearly.
Getting rid of nonsense ideas is heroic.
First things first.
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby mystica » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:52 pm

So what do you plan to do? There's many too many of them, you know that? It's actually our system which praises psychopathy, in fact the few 'normals' I know are all dying and unable to sustain themselves, unable to perform morally corrupt work etc.

Isn't it your responsibility to detect their lies and remove them from your life?

No need for cynicism, suspicion, defensiveness.


Is there a need for it now? Of course this happens all the time..

while laughing up their sleeves at a cheap powerless imitation of Jesus.


... but even with 30 psychopaths and their 'livestock' laughing at me, I still know I'm not the one who has to do bad and lie to make my day. Will they cost me financial opportunities? Yes. Are my parents trying to get rid of me while using me as the reason for their misery in front of their livestock friends? Yes. But what can I really do about it? And what are you going to do about practically everybody in control - the politicians, cops, ... will you complain of psychopathy to its finest examples?

What is it that they can rob me of apart from my time until I figure what's going on? And my livestock friends who choose themselves to follow them instead?
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Cruxx » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:44 am

What I plan to do - does not include futile activities.
I put effort into what works,
and that does not include trying to persuade the traitors-to-mankind to reform themselves.

I do not agree with your use of cynicism, suspicion and defensiveness.
All those reactions are self-defeating.

What is it that they can rob me of apart from my time until I figure what's going on?

Robbery is about more than your limited allocation of time.
The key is your energy, your life-force.
While your energy is depleted by the predators, your awareness lacks the fuel to move to a higher perspective.
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby mystica » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:31 am

Ok so you listed things you aren't planning to do and believe me I do know trying to convince them to stop is useless but I wanna know what is it that you say works better? Take in account the fact that there's not 1 in 100 but more like 80 in 100 of them...
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Bailey14 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:21 pm

Beyond the thinkable, lies the unknown.
90% of the universe, 90% of it's mass anyway, is invisible to modern science.!
and Everybody Is Not-Looking At It.
Very strange, to ignore 90% of the whole universe, as if it were a lifeless desert.


This thought always excites me, to think "what is out there what we do not know about" etc, and that there are things out there that humans can not see or even possible think about; as humans lack the required senses and perceptions.

But that's the beauty of it, we will never know because we don't have the ability to 'see' and observe this (whatever it is) so we have to use our imagination.

An interesting theory I found is from the documentary "DMT - The spirit molecule", which suggests that the drug DMT connects the 'Spirit world" to reality. This is associated with the pineal gland within the brain (also known as the third eye) which is responsible for producing natural DMT and melatonin (hormone that promotes sleep). I not only find the theory interesting but the fact that it reminds me of schizophrenia - the hallucinations, grandiosity, bad sleeping patterns etc.. I wonder if schizophrenics release more natural DMT or have 'abnormal' pineal gland functioning.

Btw you say 'if schizophrenia does even exist', in a sense no mental illness exist as everyone experiences mental illness differently, with different symptoms/severity of symptoms - in essence everybody suffers from a mental illness. Mental illnesses are not valid nor reliable. They are just given a name to categorise symptoms, so that it is easier to understand and treat.

P.s. I don't really like your style of your writing, so didn't read all of it. (I am more of a get to the point kinda guy)
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Cruxx » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:35 am

Mystica :
Your insistence that I disclose my activities and long-term strategy
for countering influences that are harmful to Mother Earth and to Mankind
does not take account of the complexity of the variables and of my proposed solution,
nor of the difficulties of making them comprehensible to the uninformed.

Are you wanting to participate ?
Or are you just looking for a weakness to attack ?
How about you declaring your position on what needs to be done ?

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P.s. I don't really like your style of your writing, so didn't read all of it. (I am more of a get to the point kinda guy)

Bailey 14 :
When one is expounding ideas that are unfamiliar to the reader,
it is appropriate to develop the concept with information and reasoning.
Unwillingness to be thorough in any subject is certain to cause misunderstanding and error.

This short-cut lazy attitude is a lack of Sobriety, and given that lack, you would be much safer to stay well away from the shamanic sacraments that throw open the doors to the 2nd Attention.

The realm of dark matter is no place for careless adventurism - exploring it is perhaps the most dangerous of career options.
Especially dangerous for those whose hubris inclines them towards over-confident haste & carelessness.

Here, I am writing for those whose awareness is leaking, and who are told by materialists that their inexplicable ordeals are merely an illness of the mental faculty, for which there is no effective mainstream remedy.
Having had to come to terms with my own heightened awareness, I pass on what worked for me
in coming to terms with the disruptive forces that torment those who have perceptions beyond the pedestrian.

Your belief that humans lack the capacity to perceive in the realm of dark matter is dead wrong.
We are trained to ignore and fear the unknown,
and those who fail to conform with that strategic blindness are denigrated and dismissed as loonies.

Strange mix of enthusiasm and cynicism in your post.
Raises questions about what you are wanting to achieve . . .
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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Re: An Anti-Psychiatry Success

Postby Cruxx » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:49 am

Postby mystica » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:52 pm
So what do you plan to do? There's many too many of them, you know that?

Hi Mystica,

Did you see the difference in my response to Zig ?
Because Zig made an effort, gave me something I could easily work with.

Having considered your questions, this is my attempt to meet your requirement.

First : Among the human beings, to ask a direct personal question is a rudeness,
an aggression, an intrusion into the privacy of one’s relationship with oneself.

The direct personal question is the way of the whiteman.
The rapist of the land, the denier of Womanhood.
The exterminator of the human beings.

Consider how much you devalue yourself, living by whiteman ways.

So much un-necessary pain and stress is caused by the whiteman’s ways,
the book-worshipping and law-worshipping that cripples our concepts, stifles our freedoms.
Compulsively turning us all into conformists, instead of Innovators of New Horizons.

You want something that works for you ?
Get rid of your whiteman thinking. All of it. Throw it Out. Every opinion. Yes.

Start a new reality map, based on your own investigations.
Run it in parallel with whatever you have.
Begin with a metaphorical blank-page, with only the personally-verified admitted.

Replace opinion [belief] with perception.
Be a master detective : seek a Higher Truth . . . seek a Higher Purpose for yourself.
Observe a gradual change in your mood as your skills and discipline and understanding improve.

Working for your Self – as a detective, as a poet, in romance with Knowledge - is Satisfying.

Learn the old ways, and live by the values of a high civilisation ;
from there you will no longer fight your spirit.

An excellent synopsis of healthy values, well suited to working from,
was written by Charles A. Eastman (Ohiyesa) in 1901.
An edited version of Eastman’s essay is available on Private Message request.

And my livestock friends who choose themselves to follow them instead?

I use the term livestock to illustrate the perspective of those who prey on mankind.
That illustration should not be interpreted as my own perspective on mankind.

I know what we are capable of . . .
the potential of awareness that so few among us take as a serious challenge.
And I respect that un-Used Potential, even though I am dismayed by the abdication of sovereignty that is consented-to by the overwhelming majority of individuals.

Even the most disgusting degenerates started out with the potential to be magnificent.
They chose badly, under the influence of the predators’ propaganda and their misleading impulses,
and by making decisions from their demented self-importance.

If we can break the treacherous influence of the predators amongst us,
the balance of the worldwide affliction will have radically changed.
George Monbiot is publishing some excellent practical proposals for people to consider.

Those who follow the urging of the predator are not your friends.
Humans have no capability for friendship while ever they are obsessed with their self-importance,
{a moral illness that is characteristic of the present Tonal-of-the-Times,
and of the fixation of the assemblage point at the position of self-reflection}

Changing the Tonal-of-the-Times is potentially the method of mass-change
by which the degradation of mankind can be brought to an end,
and allow us to collectively make proper use of the magical heritage of human awareness.

Doing so is no trivial task, especially working alone, as my circumstance temporarily dictates.

Meanwhile, our individual escape into sanity & perceptual-competence is essentially a solitary task.
Paradox is where thinking gets most interesting.
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