I wanna found a new branch of Psych

Called Psychilogy.

Where you just do the mirror test, then go through the DSM openly, tell the person they are crazy and facilitate them through giving advice such as move to Europe.

SBBro wrote:Called Psychilogy.

Where you just do the mirror test, then go through the DSM openly, tell the person they are crazy and facilitate them through giving advice such as move to Europe.

Interesting idea.

A bit sparse on detail imo, I would like to know more. Also what is a mirror test? Forgive my ignorance

Its a self awareness test for animals but I think it could be implemented for humans, just google it.

I havent looked in to it and cbf to be honest, its just an idea but I wouldnt follow through with it because becoming self aware has only caused me more grief.

The problem with psych is science only knows a very small amount of how the mind works, I think they found new brain chemicals recently.

Psych literature is very dated, you would be shocked at even how much is and has been intentionally left out of psych. If it does not support mainstream views it is either discarded or suppressed.


But you raise a really good point. Self awareness. I would say at least half of those labeled as mentally ill have tons of introspectiveness, the rest have a considerable amount too. Where a psych does not like being questioned this creates tremendous conflict, it simply leads to the patient reaching the conclusion I am not heard. In my case treatment is derailed as in such cases where a patient is introspective his or her views being included in treatment must be essential. To deny a patients views, thoughts, feelings is to deny the patient all together. Hope and Healing become discarded.


No one can help diagnose themselves the way they can themselves. Even when clueless, they are the ultimate source of knowledge about themselves. Every human being is a professional expert on themselves, a PHD on their own existence.

Ive known others including myself who could apply the DSM better than a psych could.

Becoming more self aware takes skill, and it requires the patient be respected, that their experiences are normal.

My 2 cents.

By self aware I mean I found out I had a personality disorder. The psych nurse was like "you shouldnt say youre a disordered person".
A year before that my psychologist was saying how sociopaths make excellent leaders and lawyers and such, which is very true.

You cant diagnose yourself with a personality disorder, humans dont have self analysis ability. I accidently cheated and I am not saying how.

All finding out has done is made me more doubtful of my future and exacerbated the negative traits of my personality. I need to self facilitate my meaningless existence now.

Watch American Psycho, I will re-explain it again. The intro and ending is narrated by Patrick, thats what is important. The movie itself is all a presentation of gas-lighting. By the end of it he realised he was a psychopath and it only made him more miserable and he achieved nothing, He never dissected any girls, Paul Allen never died it was all his psychopathic fantasy in between narrations.

As a psychopath I ######6 laugh at all the mental masturbation over the movie.
All that ever mattered in the movie was the naration.

Now as part of Psychilogy I am gonna say this sub forum is a magnet for schizotypal personal disorder. Its a personality disorder that causes a patient to be a bit paranoid, and piece together conclusions there is no evidence for such as conspiracies or someone they know has it out for them.

The way you can tell if you are schizotypal is if you hallucinate when stoned or love the 4chan/x board or believe in UFOs. Pretty much if you believe in anything there is no evidence for besides mainstream religions then you can meet the criteria.

I think a lot of people here need to find a good psychiatrist, one with a good reputation.
Its not ######6 normal to think some organization is out to harm you, yes haldol is $#%^ so take risperidone instead, unhappy take zoloft, worried take valium.

###$ THE SYSTEM PSYCHILOGY!!!!11!!!

Those guys on 4chan deserve a whole academic discipline devoted to thier study.

Brilliant Post Riccola. Superb.
So much insight.
My experience with medical bureaucrats was exactly that.
You have captured it with poetic precision.
Bravo !

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because becoming self aware has only caused me more grief

Important distinction :
Being more aware of your pain and confusion is the First Step to Freedom.
I kid you not.

Ordinary people are obsessive about avoiding uncomfortable subjects.
They absolutely do not want to know about what ails them.

My assessment is that ordinary people are mental and emotional cripples,
and because they are moral cripples, too, they remain ordinary.

You are at an important decision point.
Perhaps the most important question for you, Ever.

No need to decide immediately ; take your Time.
Get it Right.

Take a sober view, piece by piece, until the picture starts to make sense.
Not too difficult, and you end up with something Magic.

The question is between 2 options.
Yes, there are in-betweens, but it boils down to 2.
Will you ? Do Whatever-It-Takes to solve the Mystery of Reality.?
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Yes or No ?
This chooses between 2 very different futures.
100% Your Responsibility.
It’s Entirely Up To You.

Personally, for myself, becoming a Reality Detective saved my life.
Highest possible recommendation.

So far I’ve invested 60 years into this Quixotic Quest,
and the benefits are unthinkably* good. *{Yes, there are realities beyond Thought}

For the recent 10 years, I have been mostly happy.
Real happiness, the satisfaction of a meaningful and purposeful existence.
Happiness increased by the social hygiene of avoiding interactions with the morally diseased*.
And remember : Happiness is the Absence of unHappiness.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .*{basically, everybody}.

I’m astonished at the depth of honesty in this forum.
No wonder the Stuffed-Shirts think you’re all mad !
{their horrible assumption is Freud’s Projection at work}

So, keep kool.
In your own mind, nothing is stronger than your decision.
Truly.

We all choose between ordinariness and impeccability.
Every day. Every task. Every thought.

I have the painful pleasure of a ridiculously High standard of Workmanship.

This works for me, and it’s getting better as I strive for excellence in all things.
Doing so opens every subject to meticulous detail and evolving Meaning.

This is how we transform our sense of Self from a bewildered primate into an unknown genius.
Have fun with this : as Jack Reacher says “The Best Revenge is to Live Free”.

In a romance with Knowledge, we know that the enchanting girl
is not going to walk out on us over some selfish unreasonableness.

Knowledge leads to true Freedom . . . eventually.
{quite opposite from the meaning of freedom when spoken by mainstream Politicians}

Freedom is fresh air to our spirit.

The price of freedom is Discernment, Courage, and Persistence.
These 3 personal standards are the keys to your own existence,
to the delicious totality-of-the-self.

Regards from the Cruxx

Thanks! And thank you for that beautiful post! I find it comforting. Well detailed, I imagine you spent a lot of time and effort.


Yahhh, I have to agree, there is a reason why white coats think we are nuts. You cant base reality on relative observations which white coats themselves have more control over than they realize to start with. White coats want to make followers out of everyone, probably because they are themselves are followers feeling uncomfortable about it but as you say need to project. To them everyone is insane, psychiatry itself warps a person's mind.


Unbiased hard Knowledge is the ultimate key. It will give you all the freedom, all the power to yourself and the rest of the world.

Bertrand Russell said:

The causes of the various kinds of unhappiness lie partly in the social system, partly in individual psychology - which of course, is itself to a considerable extent a product of the social system

Am I nuts? Or do I just not fit into the order of things.

No, you are not nuts IMO