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United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:56 pm

I thought of this topic because the TV news is all about the CIA torture report this week.

Of course the United Nations psychiatric torture report did not make any headline news on TV or in the newspapers.

The Special Rapporteur on Torture in March 2013 called for an absolute ban on nonconsensual psychiatric interventions, including restraint, solitary confinement, and nonconsensual administration of electroshock, psychosurgery and mind-altering drugs such as neuroleptics. He also urged repeal of legal provisions authorizing confinement and compulsory treatment in mental health settings, and said that detention on mental health grounds is unjustified. See the statement of the Special Rapporteur, his report, and the response by the World Network of Users and Survivors of Psychiatry, along with a call to action by CHRUSP. Note that the statement revises certain inconsistent positions that were left in the report.

More here http://www.mdac.info/en/05/03/2013/un-torture-expert-no-more-treatment-without-consent

Human experimentation without consent has been prohibited in any setting since 1947, when the Nuremberg Code, which resulted from the prosecution of Nazi doctors, set down 10 sacrosanct principles. The code states that voluntary consent of subjects is essential and that all unnecessary physical and mental suffering should be avoided.

Does any of this stop those 'doctors' from telling patients 'take these pills or else' ? NO.

Or else of course is restraint , forced injection and the threat usually includes the 'state hospital'.

THE RIGHT NOT TO BE TORTURED

• “No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.” (United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 5)

The labels “antipsychotics” and “antidepressants” are seriously misleading. The “antipsychotics” do not combat or cure “psychosis” or “mental illness”, and “antidepressants” do not combat or cure depression or the fraudulent diagnosis “bipolar mood disorder”. Psychiatric drugs (“medication”) chemically control and disable people -- sometimes permanently. Neuroleptics is a more accurate term for “antipsychotics”, it means “nerve-seizing”. These psychiatric drugs are much more powerful, debilitating and brain-disabling than the “tranquilizers” (benzodiazepines), which by the way are addictive. The neuroleptics and antidepressants frequently make people look and act apathetic, zombie-like as if they’ve been lobotomized -- even at moderate or low doses. These allegedly “safe and effective medications” always produce painful and serious “side effects”, some are health-threatening and brain-damaging; others are life-threatening. Consider these common effects: muscle cramps, dizziness, blurred vision, seizures, tardive dyskinesia (a permanent neurological disorder characterized by involuntary movements caused by the neuroleptics), tardive dementia, akathisia (constant restless pacing), nightmares, psychosis, parkinsonism, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS is a neurological disorder with a prevalence rate of 2%-3%, and mortality rate of 20%-25%), and sudden death. Tardive dyskinesia (TD), tardive dementia, NMS and parkinsonism are all signs of brain damage. Although TD was discovered and reported in medical journals in the mid-1960s, the psychiatrists covered up or failed to warn patients about this horrific neurological “side effect” for about 20 years until the 1980s. After a few weeks or months on such “medication”, most patients look and act like a zombie, apathetic, indifferent to their surroundings. Dr. Peter Breggin (1997; 1991), Dr.Lars Martensson (1998), and other professional critics have documented these horrendous effects. Many psychiatric survivor-activists and other critics prefer the label “chemical lobotomy”, it succinctly describes their zombie experience. In a psychoprison or psychiatric ward, virtually everyone gets drugged - “put on meds”. Or threatened -- “take your meds, or else”. This is also true of children who are admitted to psychiatric wards (LeFrancois, 2006).

Forced drugging compounds this abuse. Informed consent is a cruel sham since psychiatrists rarely if ever warn incarcerated involuntary and voluntary patients about common health risks and non-medical alternatives to the drugs. More often than not, psychiatrists coerce, threaten, or intimidate patients into consenting to “medication”

This is from http://www.radicalpsychology.org/vol7-1/weitz2008.html

Well that's my post, I lived this nightmare of the strip search , psychiatric incarceration, coercion and threats for very minor psychiatric offenses . My original complaint was anxiety and insomnia and in less than 2 years of beginning their "treatments" (pills, pills and more pills) I got much much worse and I am now showing up at emergency rooms with panic attacks and endured the inpatient torture chambers several times. Of course no one EVER asked what were you like before the pills or suggested alternatives, nope, no way, they just went directly to threats if I disagreed with the "need" for even stronger disable your brain and mind pills.

Something needs to be done, the most common defense I heard patients say to the abusers inpatient "I am going to sue this place" . I must have heard it 100 times so the doctors and staff must have heard it tens of thousands of times and since it rarely happens the threat is ignored and the human rights violations just continue unabated.

You must under duress swallow these pills so we can see what effect they have on the function of your mind and body = Torture Period.
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Riccola » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:47 am

As usual great stuff! Glad to see you added your take on it as well.

Thanks for sharing :D
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:10 am

Riccola wrote:As usual great stuff! Glad to see you added your take on it as well.

Thanks for sharing :D


Thanks guess I will share some more,

I left off with "Of course no one EVER asked what were you like before the pills or suggested alternatives, nope, no way, they just went directly to threats if I disagreed with the "need" for even stronger disable your brain and mind pills."

Scary thing was I forgot what I was like before those pills.

It was discovering 'anti psychiatry' , the truth, that saved me from possibly more years of this chemical nightmare. I didn't know when I started that 'low serotonin' was a fraud to sell pills.

I met an ex patient who told me about anti psychiatry and his misadventures with it , then I came across this book, The Myth of the Chemical Cure: A Critique of Psychiatric Drug Treatment
http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Chemical ... 0230574327

Those things combined with my resentments over being given Zyprexa and getting sick from it and getting sick from the pills before that and the inpatient abuse was enough for me decide to turn my back on psychiatry forever.

I still had to deal with quitting alcohol but that was easy once off Remeron and Zyprexa and Dexadrine and Clonopin. and all the other crappy mixes I endured.

I will never forget when I first started reading those books , WTF ! that's how psychiatry really works !!!! I can't give credit to any one thing ,the psychiatric mistreatment also strengthened my resolve never to go near them again.

It was a long road back , its not like I just said no more pills and was fine the next day. I should write my recovery story one day. its difficult to put into words but it took at least a year for the anxiety to go away to just start functioning 'normal' . I didn't even know 'normal' was coming at the end of the first year. Thought my condition in the beginning was the new normal and expected only mild improvement. In year 2 improvements continued. Now a few years later I look back and my psychiatric days seem like a bad dream.

This label and that label you can never get better... F them , I am living proof its not true.
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Riccola » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:16 pm

I believed in psychiatry until I began seeing it first hand for myself. At that point I knew how broken everything was. I never met so many heartless, sadistic and arrogant people trying everything they could to push pills some of which they knew Ive had negative reactions to. Ive never met so many people who say 'Im hear to listen' yet don't listen. I have personally seen people get worse, Ive gotten worse... I am still recovering from psychiatry.


All in all a pattern emerged to me . Psychiatry was nothing more than a system to profit off of human beings. It is not required psychiatry actually work, all is required is a system that sells treatment. Treatment that often violates medical ethics and human rights. Because your patients are the most helpless people in society, abuse goes unanswered.

In the case of "Free John Rohrer", his experiences are not some exceptionally rare freak of misfortune. Id say his experiences happen to many people, and often are common. What the complaints express are not made up, rather typical for inpatient psychiatry and behavioral health centers. And yes, I would never have believed the accusation of staff instigating conflict but I personally have witnessed it to many times to count. Some paces do in an effort to keep patients in longer, ESPECIALLY behavioral health units.


I always laugh when I see psychiatric hospitals and inpatient clinics sectioned away from medical hospitals. I never knew, until I figured that symbolism out. Psychiatry is not real medicine. :lol: :lol:

For a long time Ive considered writing a book about my personal experiences. I keep skirting it off thinking who would read it. Now Im not so sure.

I think you should Copy_Cat if you really want to. Every story is worth its weight on paper in gold. Silence only occurs when no one can speak out. Just my opinion.
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:44 pm

Riccola wrote:Silence only occurs when no one can speak out.


This site is dedicated to all the people who were harmed or killed in UHS facilities . They speak for those who have no voice, to protect others from experiencing the pain they endured. http://watchinguhs.wordpress.com/


Universal Health Services, the largest operator of freestanding psychiatric centers in the United States.

4Q Profit at Universal Health Services Jumps 42%
For the entire 2012 fiscal year, UHS posted a FAT bottom line. Profit was up 11.4 percent to $443.4 million. Revenue increased 3 percent to more than $6.96 billion, and UHS’ adjusted EBITDA stood at $1.23 billion. As of Dec. 31, UHS also has more than $1.4 billion in assets.

For the first six months of fiscal 2014, profit at UHS increased 6.7% to $289.7 million. Net revenue was up 7.5% to $3.9 billion. UHS said it expects full-year earnings per diluted share will fall between $5.55 and $5.85, compared with a much lower initial estimate of $4.80 to $5.10 per diluted share.

Shares of UHS closed at $97.54 Thursday. Over the past three months, the company's stock has risen almost 25%.

Meanwhile when I had the misfortune of being in one of there hellholes they call a 'hospital' I could not call my family because these profit hungry bastards won't provide "long distance" calls outside the area code from involuntary patient telephones.

Total compensation for Alan Miller, CEO and chairman of King of Prussia, Pa.-based Universal Health Services, swelled 27 percent last year, from $9.85 million in 2010 to $12.5 million in 2011, according to documents from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/co ... ps-27.html

As long as we are talking about the United Nations and torture, as far as I am concerned Alan Miller is guilty of crimes against humanity . See http://failuretocare.com/uhs-in-the-news/
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Riccola » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:03 am

Thats a lot of detailed info, but none the less interesting.

Thanks :)
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:16 am

Riccola wrote:Thats a lot of detailed info, but none the less interesting.

Thanks :)


I think it's just outrageous that it continues.

June 28, 2014

A five-year study involving 497 homeless people with mental health or addictions problems in Vancouver found that, when provided free apartments, most people “stabilized their lives and coexisted peacefully with their neighbours,” according to the Vancouver Sun. The Mental Health Commission of Canada has been leading the “Housing First” randomized control trials in five cities, and issued its report on Vancouver this week. Additionally, for every $10 invested in providing housing, the study found an average savings of $8.55 in avoided use of social services. “For the difference of $1.45, the participant went from living a chaotic life on the street, to living inside and starting to address challenges such as mental illness, addictions, terrible health, poverty and poor quality of life,” reports the Vancouver Sun.

Link to more on this http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Participants+with+mental+illness+addictions+thrive+after+being+given+apartments+five+year+national/9979290/story.html

I am way to tired to try and do the math on all this but the psych industry makes billions and billions with there revolving doors when I believe they know that if some of those billions went to housing to help people instead of revolving doors to enrich the industry the mental illness homeless "crisis" would come to an end. But so would profits of UHS , pharma , the prison industry...

Homelessness just pisses me off. There is no reason for it with modern building techniques.

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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:34 pm

Karl Kraus once epigrammatically put it that psychoanalysis is the disease it purports to cure.

Likewise, I would say that involuntary psychiatry is the disease it purports to cure, the evil it purports to remedy.

Whatever the dubious evils it is said to remedy, they are not so great as the evils inherent in the social arrangement between psychiatric slave-master and slave. It is simply a business whose dubious profits do not cover the costs, and it offends against all the finest sentiments of which man is sometimes capable.

It reduces human beings to mere means in the service of other people's ends. This was one of the hallmarks of chattel slavery. It is also one of the hallmarks of psychiatric slavery, the both being merely different species of the same genus.
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Re: United Nations: Involuntary psychiatric treatment is torture

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:45 pm

Riccola wrote:I believed in psychiatry until I began seeing it first hand for myself. At that point I knew how broken everything was. I never met so many heartless, sadistic and arrogant people trying everything they could to push pills some of which they knew Ive had negative reactions to. Ive never met so many people who say 'Im hear to listen' yet don't listen. I have personally seen people get worse, Ive gotten worse... I am still recovering from psychiatry.


All in all a pattern emerged to me . Psychiatry was nothing more than a system to profit off of human beings. It is not required psychiatry actually work, all is required is a system that sells treatment. Treatment that often violates medical ethics and human rights. Because your patients are the most helpless people in society, abuse goes unanswered.

In the case of "Free John Rohrer", his experiences are not some exceptionally rare freak of misfortune. Id say his experiences happen to many people, and often are common. What the complaints express are not made up, rather typical for inpatient psychiatry and behavioral health centers. And yes, I would never have believed the accusation of staff instigating conflict but I personally have witnessed it to many times to count. Some paces do in an effort to keep patients in longer, ESPECIALLY behavioral health units.


I always laugh when I see psychiatric hospitals and inpatient clinics sectioned away from medical hospitals. I never knew, until I figured that symbolism out. Psychiatry is not real medicine. :lol: :lol:

For a long time Ive considered writing a book about my personal experiences. I keep skirting it off thinking who would read it. Now Im not so sure.

I think you should Copy_Cat if you really want to. Every story is worth its weight on paper in gold. Silence only occurs when no one can speak out. Just my opinion.


Indeed. Psychiatrists are just parasites feeding off of human suffering. It is often said that a society, in the final analysis, must be judged by how it treats the most vulnerable of its citizens. According to that standard of judgement, human society should be thoroughly ashamed of itself, and human nature stands equally indicted, because no anthropodicy can possibly explain away the evidence furnished by the history of psychiatry of man's, at its best, cavalier attitude to human suffering, and at its worst, outright sadistic attitude.
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