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Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby Mister_J » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:59 am

Maybe you should read my other topics but I have a bad experience in psychiatry many many years ago. I can not work due to that and in Belgium you need to see a shrink in order to get a low illness fee.
I thought I had found a good shrink, had seen him for a few years now but now I have a serious problem.

In september I learnt about the fact that I had to leave my apartment. Even though it's the cheapest one, I cannot afford it anymore. We do have a system of social housing and some people have to wait 15 years to get an affordable apartment, others get it immediately. The social aid organisation told me: I would have to wait a long time even though I have to leave my apartment by the end of december.

I got in touch with a local politician. He promised me a cheap social apartment and earlier this week I could pick up the keys but once I arrived there, it turned out to be a big lie which means that I have to leave my apartment in three weeks ( and don't forget the week before X-mas there's not much people can do). I called my psychiatrist to talk about this and he said: the only option left to avoid getting homeless is psychiatry.

Before turning this into a "there must be other options", there aren't. I'm still in serious debt paying my psychiatric hospital bills from many years ago. So anything on the private market is so out of the question. I actually got this appartment because I paid three months of rent at once so the house lord didn't ask for any other aspects, but that's not going to happen now.

That bad psychiatric experience gives me nightmares, still after so many years. And the thought of being at a hospital and having no home is even worse because that means I would have no place to go.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:46 pm

Hello!
I am in the same position, and I have chosen to be a HOMELESS.
Do not hesitate to ask me for any advice s we coudl share.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby Mister_J » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:31 pm

Thanks you can give me some advice. I don't know where you live, I don't live in the US so the laws must be different.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:23 pm

Hello!
I do not live in US either- but it is the first reliable forum on that topic I could find till now.

As homeless ther is definitley at leasta alittle bit worse comfort as when living in appartments for menthally ill people.

To many to one bathroom, to one shower, to one toilet, too many in one room, some stink, some do not wash themselves, some snore...yes.

Unfortunately here is the same probelm: and I have chosen homeless, regardless on all that.

Remember, that "not all poors come form God". many of homeless are homeless because of commiting some certain crimes etc. What U can expect among them, God knws.

But the menthaly ill woman in the flat I lived before attacked another one with knife and police has been there, then she was translported to hopsital again.

So, U actually do nto loose too much.(at least u don't in my case. )

How about social flats, is it possible that U get some- is that the flat U actually lost?

How expensive are such flats in your country? Can U afford one at all?

Feel free to ask anything u want!

Wish u luck (and to me toom, to be honest!)
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:47 pm

I would suggest- have a look at the place where, homeless live, take a look about people and room wehre U might be, U don't have to stay, but U have right to see what U can expšect there - and tell us here how it seems.

Then we can all discuss it together.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby Mister_J » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:26 pm

you have to wait years to rent a social flat over here unless you have connections and by the way: last year a social worker helped me filling in documents for social housing. He "forgot" to send it to the right person and no one is blaming him for that which means I'd have to wait over and over again.

I have to leave one of the cheapest non-social apartments just because I can no longer pay the rent.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:29 am

I am in the same position, but I have chosen homelessness as variant and do all my efforts to find a job, INSPITE they said "I were permanently unemployable" becuase I am not and dot.

(But with such stigmatisation and the fact that I do not have social network arroun it WILL BE HARD, YES) So I really believe to be homeless as short as possible .

How about You? What is Your attitude about jobs in general?
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby Mister_J » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:30 am

I cannot have a job, I have a physical disorder at the moment. That's why I'm even more mad at those social aid organisations. They don't do anything for people being in a real tough position.
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:22 pm

Hello!
Would U mind to tell whichdisorder, if the question is not too intrusive?
If so, why do U try to avoid psychiatry again? Did they not treat U the best way? What about changing doctor or hospital?

People with menthal disorders can function fine if they are properly stabilised. Did they do it well?
Do U have any friends or relatives to help?
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Re: Back to psychiatry - I really don't want this- Help

Postby LittleTroubleGirl » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:44 pm

Do U personally, regardless of their opinion, think U woudl be able for any kind of work? What woudl U choose if U could?

How about unemployment in your country? Does it affect their decisions?

(I nmy case ,problem is that some patients who have shisophrenia or deep derpessions DO HAVE easy jobs due to certain institutions, but it goes for people who have better social netwrok then me.
I have been aliminated, and my complains to have a look over my results there were rejected, only a comment: you have been on psyhiatric department, noone would employ you!) But they employed some others, so? That is why I wanted to go t ocort and /or journalysts, but when I tried to attract someone noone found it interesting enough , so I am trying further- here, f.e.)

-- Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:48 pm --

How about homelesses?
Where are U now?
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