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Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:07 am

What Killed Robin Williams? Was He On Anti-Depressants (SSRI’s)?

http://truthman30.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-antidepressants/

Did Depression or Pharma Kill Robin Williams?
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby ScratchTicket » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:51 am

The fact that he couldn't get by without meds means the depression killed him, no matter how you look at it. The meds have warnings for a reason, and we only choose to ignore those warnings when trying to live without them is no longer worth it.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:05 am

ScratchTicket wrote:The fact that he couldn't get by without meds means the depression killed him, no matter how you look at it. The meds have warnings for a reason, and we only choose to ignore those warnings when trying to live without them is no longer worth it.


Not really, in rehab everyone is shuffled off to the doctor to be labelled and druggged within the first week. There is no "informed consent" going on.

Check this out,

"Far from the funny man who charmed millions, Robin Williams was gaunt and subdued in the last photo taken of him alive, as he battled the demons that would ultimately claim his life.

The photo, taken earlier this summer at a Lindstrom, Minnesota, Dairy Queen, shows Williams in the midst of his recent rehab stay at Minnesota’s Hazelden Addiction Treatment Center."

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/robin-williams-last-photo-minnesota-dairy-queen/

I relate that word subdued to psychiatric drugs, cause that's what they do.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby ScratchTicket » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:17 am

Checking yourself in as an in-patient is consenting. It's stating that you think your life has a better chance in someone else's hands. You're already that far gone by that point.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:37 pm

Robin Williams committed SUICIDE because all his supposed loved ones and his supposed friends etc. etc. etc., did not give a dam about him in his time of need... The vast, vast majority of SUICIDES (Violent and or Passive) can be stopped if the people around them give a dam and help them... WE stopped all SUICIDES (Passive & Violent) at the mental health rehabilitation work facility for over two years because WE gave a dam, and I don't mean the supposed mental health professionals who did not give a dam...
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:41 pm

ScratchTicket wrote:Checking yourself in as an in-patient is consenting. It's stating that you think your life has a better chance in someone else's hands. You're already that far gone by that point.


Didn't they teach you in group to make "I" statements ?

Anyway informed consent doesn't work that way, not everyone is "to far gone".

Every patient has a legal and ethical right to make the decision of what will or will not be done to him. After all, it is his body, and by law he is allowed to familiarize himself with every dangerous side effect a psychiatric medicine may cause.

Informed consent is an essential human right which was guaranteed by the Nuremberg Code and an ethical principle approved by the World Health Organization, the United Nations and even the US government. This is a human right that all human beings have under both international law and under US Constitutional law. Mental health professionals need to honor the ethical and human rights principle of informed consent. The human right to have informed consent is a right that even prisoners of war and convicted felons have and yet mental health patients, who have been charged with no crime, have been routinely denied this basic human right.

http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Informed-consent.html

http://medicalwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2011/11/psychiatric-patients-have-right-to.html
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby Razael » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:52 am

I thik psychiatry caused the suicide but I don't know anything....was he getting help? my case manager said he had manic depressive and wass him who chose to get treatmetn as on my hand I refuse and have a low opinion antipsychitry mindset about the situation, psychiatry would have degraded him into believing he suffered a mental illness etc a chemical ibalance and todtally brainwashed the poor guy, no wonder people suicide from dealing with pscyhiatric treatmnets...I have a theory that using pharmakia goes against natural order and aligning with the higher sleves and being truly free, we are given the tools in self-mastrery to overcome states of mind and karmic $#%^ going on, maybe a lot are unaware of this balancing of karma that is being done when we suffer, its our birthright and $#%^ we accumulate in life needs to be delat with, if you esc ape it with pscy drugs this must anger the gods and may aswell suicide, wasted life treating normal suffering with pscyh drugs....but I don't like people who like pscyhaitries moral authority to escape there problems, tough love.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby sixprime » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:15 pm

To me, it is absolutely clear that Robin Williams had bipolar disorder, not depression. I'm saying this simply because I recognize myself in his behaviour and comic style (very speedy and hyped up with lightning-fast improv) and his life (drug problems). Everyone in the bipolar forum seems to agree, and so does Carrie Fisher.

I noticed he checked in for treatment shortly before he died. In a remarkable coincidence, it has now come out that he confided that he was showing early signs of Parkinson's disease. It makes me wonder if it was actually tardive parkinsonism from antipsychotics that he might have been taking? That would make me suicide for sure, just like ECT killed Ernest Hemingway.

Now we'll never find out.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby Prairie gal » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:34 pm

I totally agree with sixprime that Robin Williams was bipolar.
It seems obvious to me and did even while he was still living.

Despite this, his life was very productive. I'm sorry he cut it short.
Not sure anyone is to blame, certainly not his loving wife and children.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, SSRIs again ?

Postby sixprime » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:47 pm

What blows my mind is that apart from Carrie Fisher's article in The Hollywood Reporter, I have not seen one single news story that made this connection. Now, of course, come all the op-eds that talk about how his death will "open a dialogue about mental illness" without being aware of what illness he actually had.

One of these articles (on the CBC no less) called his performances "manic" on three occasions (once in a caption) and then made no references to bipolar whatsoever.

boggle boggle boggle

I mean, where do they think the metaphorical use of the word manic came from?

Nobody is to blame. Bipolar is something you're born with and something you die with.
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