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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Riccola » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:13 am

Razael wrote:thanks ricollla...hangin in......there..and copy cat too...its a good link

still not explaining what the iatrogenic illness really is, all the negative symptoms I have and life viod of interests like I said losing all interests in life and going down hill, all my bonzai tree's died now I just got mess of pots full of dead $#%^...not doing anything just sleep all the time and write a lot of emails to complaints commissioner and my case manager and the head pscyhiatrist at the service trying to e heard but its not working so I just gonne keep at them untilll I notice a change...pplus there is my fantasies about their treatmetn on the astral and interstellar they are all in cages with books they better read to be able to ever get out...made peace wtih warring lot and blamed my actions on the psychiatrist and iatrogenic illness that is probably most important that living like the iatrogenic illness for a long time does a lot of damage for when you remov3e the cchemical straightjacketing, chemical lobotomy and find taht dopamine runs more actively as greater abundance of dopamine receoptors now the brain has adapted to fight off the illness from the drugs...so you are screwed to come off the drugs too because it makes them think you are schizoprhenic and need a high dose or will become unwell...I did major catch up sessions when coming off them and blamed the psychiatrists for the war we had, I was also ###$ on Zeldox which was a big deal...insomnia and did some really $#%^ stuff like trash my apartment and do a runner from the wars and stuff that was overall the psychiatrists fault because I wasn't ready for visitation from what was actually higher beings but much the same as humans on earth, some other stuff too...sorry if that is triggering anyone, I recovered with sleep and know the difference in my state of mind and activity on the astral goes down, I since found breathing excercises for weird trips I get because mixing antipscyhoatic with marijuana and now have no problem, getting to meditation give pwoer back that they took away through being astral pests and scavangers picking on me ecause I am a sitting duck another astpect of the iatrogenic illness a sort of tardive pscyhosis of sorts, I would shake and was told this was my ascension by the post warring peacefull brothers that are tortureing the quacks and people from the service, they ddeserve it but they think they don't but they do, they ###$ my life and now I just gotta find balace in non iatrogenic state....for a while until I reach my evolutionary potential and what they are holding me back from, I can expct great things but they are holding me back.



id really try another hospital. This one is to mainstream, to stuck up. The fact they can ignore and man in such a way shows a deformed character on their part. You don't have to live with less than perfect mental health care. You are a patient and entitled not only to a second opinion but health care that works.


Ive read through a lot of your posts and all of them show a good understanding that you truly grasp mental illness along with poor treatment of it. You show a cohesive understanding which in no way tells me that you have a poor understanding of everything going on around you. Rather you are well aware, and they are shutting you up.

I have no doubt your are getting no where with your current treatment plan.


Any way, I read something about a hanging incident, what happened?
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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Razael » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:37 am

yeah the hanging incident left me traumatised remembering it, as well as a covered up road accident, both led to hosptial admission but I forgot what had happened to me, they wouldn't have listened anyway.

so I was hanging out at a mates place smoking bongs, and there was a guy from out of town, I asked how to tie a noose because thats what my cousin askked her dad before she committed suicide, and they took me out to the shed and tied a noose and asked if I wanna try it out, so they lifted me up from a stool and tied the rope to a bench and left me to die.....I got myself out with some difficulty and my freind shows up when I was playing with the noose finnishing off my beer, even got my foot in the noose and was playing with it, he said to gt back up there.....cant remember much after that excet they knew where they were going to bury me and wnet to the pub [I livedd in country town] ad a girl approacched me saying that she reckons I knew her ex, he was the guy from out of town and he had gone to jail for something horrible she didn't want to say why he went to jail, felt like that guy was after me and had feelings like Iknew what it was like to be jhung in a noose which I related to my cousin I was traumatised about....

so thats it, it was technically attempted murder, I thought it was a joke but remembering in 2011 I relaised it was serious and I am very lucky.
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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Razael » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:31 am

these suicidal thoughts are iatrogenic too....my astral girlfriend makes me not think like this, she helps me...lucky its not a way we can be together otherwise I would suicide, she doesn't like me thinking like that.
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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Riccola » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:35 am

Razael wrote:yeah the hanging incident left me traumatised remembering it, as well as a covered up road accident, both led to hosptial admission but I forgot what had happened to me, they wouldn't have listened anyway.

so I was hanging out at a mates place smoking bongs, and there was a guy from out of town, I asked how to tie a noose because thats what my cousin askked her dad before she committed suicide, and they took me out to the shed and tied a noose and asked if I wanna try it out, so they lifted me up from a stool and tied the rope to a bench and left me to die.....I got myself out with some difficulty and my freind shows up when I was playing with the noose finnishing off my beer, even got my foot in the noose and was playing with it, he said to gt back up there.....cant remember much after that excet they knew where they were going to bury me and wnet to the pub [I livedd in country town] ad a girl approacched me saying that she reckons I knew her ex, he was the guy from out of town and he had gone to jail for something horrible she didn't want to say why he went to jail, felt like that guy was after me and had feelings like Iknew what it was like to be jhung in a noose which I related to my cousin I was traumatised about....

so thats it, it was technically attempted murder, I thought it was a joke but remembering in 2011 I relaised it was serious and I am very lucky.



That's really creul. Whom ever did that should be persecuted under law. Its is attempted murder even if it was meant as a joke. Or not, I have no idea. I hope you stay away from those people they are very far from safe, next time they could actually kill you. They are dangerous, please keep away.

Im sorry no one is willing to listen. That would certainly traumatize anyone, and anything. I hope you find friends that can respect you and certainly not hurt you.

How are you doing as of now? Any better with psychiatry or status quo?
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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Razael » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:10 am

it happened in about 2003 so long gone are the guys taht did it, one went to jail for something else......the iatrogenic problem is that the psychiatrists don't pay any attention to stuff like that and forces me to keep bringing it up, sux I got really mad that my psychiatrist put the incident around thhe wrong hosptial admission and said someone merelly put a rope around my neck, trying to make me sound crazy...they say its only improtant to me and its not relivant to my treatmetns and diagnosis so they ignore it, but htis wass my ony problem that led to sleep deprivation.....that hanging incident landed me in hospital and nearly died in hospital and they didn't really record the allergy and what happened, my parents think I am making it up but my tongue contorted down my wind pipe and needed a tube stuck down my neck to reath for me, had out of body experience then a nurse could detect a weak pulse, they gave me ECT waking up from that....nothing was wrong with me..

yeah riccolla, not so good with the psychiatry front, still suffering on the injections making me dead, smoked some cannabis and my girlfriend astrallly helped me not feel suicidal anymore.

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I really wanted justice for that back in 2011 since traumatic stuff led to hospital admissions, not easy and I didn't get justice, they barely even acknowledge it, i think its important.
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Re: Iatrogenic helplessness in authoritarian psychiatry

Postby Razael » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:47 am

I got told I was on acid when I brought up the accident from aobut 2004, he maybe not remembber or blocked it out, I certainly forgot as soon as we heared the accident of the carivan we cut of avoiding head on collisison with a truck, they hit the truck and killed a family and we drove off because the idiot was drinking on P plates...I turned around to see all the dust and a wreckage amongst it, didnt really see but we heard it for sure, I blanked out and stared out the window wonding why he was driving so slow and why we got passed by our boss going really fast to let people know about it....I really want the driver to kick up a stink because it was never investigated, heared they blamed it on a sandbag on the road, I suppose I was the idiot who left a sandbag on the truck, we worked at a grain silo's back when I never used antipsychotic afteer my hospital admission that nearly killed me...but I wound up back in hosptial and now I get told I am tripping on acid when I try to find out about it from the driver...see this book appeared in the back seat and I wanted to know where it ended up. the book had strange writing. couldn't read it, someone said I should keep it, I regret not keeping it, some other stuff a round the time made me think I was interested in the symbolic lettering.....kinka magic, we cause an accident and a book appears in the back and nobody knew who it belonged to. i wish I had have kept it to find out what it means maybe find someone who could translate it, maybe it had magic powers///so after remembering that accident I had trips about the book being used to time travel and gave the posessor special powers....this really happened despite what my stressed justice seeking mind wass coming up with from the shock of remembering and reliving these times . #######4 its not important, they just ignore it..so this actually causes Iatrogenic problems associated to not being heard about these things, they really happened...I know it kinda blows it that a book magically appeared but this really happened../god knows how the authority let it go that the truck driver said another car was involved. he said we went through the truck. pity the carivan didn't slow down sooner instead of slaming on brakes at last minute that caused jacknife and into the truck I think. the idiot driver had to fix a broken tail light. I remember now that he was anxious about all that, what about the family selfish prick, maybe I should try to get the details, ###$ protecting him I want to see crash scene photography. I went to psych ward because my parents were worried, or I had resentmetns with familiar feeling of waking up, maybe I was traumatised, marijuana was blamed, drug induced pscyhosis apparently, but what about the accident. I remeided the driver trying to track down the book, heard through the eithers that he doesnt know if he'll ever forget about it, good. he should remember and regret and maybe some karma for what happened to me, or that is selfish what about the dead family, I think about it so why not the driver who only interested in keeping out of the way of the law.

back with the theme, my suffering still from this stuff is Iatrogenic, I would cry about the accident if not on antipsychhotic and get past it, now this stuff means virtually nothing but a constant thing to try to be given some respect about ....sorry to go on about the truama stuff in this, but I do suffer iatrogenic problems with the psychiatrist take on the whole deal, meaning its used against me, or they completely ignore it and that hurts.
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