Psychologists and their issues

Am I the only one to notice most psychotherapists are troubled people?

While psychiatrists might be just greedy, incompetent and/or assholes, I don't believe so many of them are actually troubled people as often as psychotherapists are.

I wonder why mental health workers are usually so troubled themselves? I believe this marks for a high percentage of the abuse they create.

It is very common to see psychotherapists as "compensatory narcissists": and they found in psychotherapy a place where they can be respected, have power over others and a sense of superiority and control over other people - which they lack "in the real world" or feel they do.

I do believe many, many, MANY psychotherapists are indeed troubled people, usually under achievers, and that psychology itself it's no more than pseudoscience and graduating on it really just requires money - it's an easy subject with no real tests or filters for the unintelligent.

I don't know why people put to much faith into psychotherapy - you're just renting a "friend to talk to" claiming to have answers based on no scientific evidence. And said answers have no evidence of being useful. If just talking is enough, what's the difference of talking to a therapist or a Pepsi can?

All too often therapy issues stem not from psychology's efficacy and deficiencies, but from the emotional and cognitive problems of psychotherapist, who usually distort things way too much to his favor. I really feel most psychotherapists either follow a strict dogma blindly or go with what THEY think it's best: rarely you have someone doing a genuine effort whilst being a critic of himself - like any human does on any other job. I mean, it's about doing problem solving efficiently, in a respectful and clean manner. Most therapists seem to just whack you in the mind with their beliefs or agenda, in the way THEY consider best witout even evaluating why.

Not many real thinkers in psychology, really. Even the fathers of psychology followed this model. They just express their own subjective beliefs and goals, not really testing and validating them in a satisfactory fashion. It's like they want to control and shape minds basing themselves on their own frustrations, way more than they want to actually have scientifically proven mental health techniques.

I get the impression most people drawn to psychology are troubled people, looking for a way to "deform their reality" and twist it so they can still be as troubled but not feel like they are. Projection of their issues into clients is all to common.

From it's inception to most of the psychotherapists you see this day, I still think it's a pseudoscience shamelessly reinventing itself when criticism and money flow being to be a problem. People who get into it usually do not have the best intentions, and usually exploit the "mentor" role and people's hopes to make money. Their "great leaders" are so alike prophets who just write down what THEY think it's right, and then everyone that believes on their original bullsheet followed and tries to prove scientifically how it works, usually with very flawed experiments that nonetheless are being accepted. This is so much like the bad part of religion/cults, that scares me.

Shows how much unhealthy behavior runs on the basis of psychology and psychotherapy. It really seems like the worst kind of people get into the field. Bent on twisting things for their own interests, which usually are ###$ up ones like an specific need to have emotional validation through the control and influence of others.

What do you think? Do you also think this field, from the academic part, to the psychotherapy practicioners, is WAY TOO DAMAGED by the people with mental health problems (I'm not saying psychiatric per se, but just "unhealthy and damaged/damaging personalities" if you will)? Do you think a more strict policing of psychology studies should be done? Do you also agree that it's somewhat shady so many people adere to so many unproven psychotherapeutical approaches? 5 years of college should/would make one smart enough to be able to critisize the validity of many obviously ridiculous psychotherapy practices - not to mention NOT EVIDENCE BASED.

I keep getting evidence and feedback about how the psychotherapy field is usually a haven for troubled people and exploiters. Most are a mix of both.

-- Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:16 am --

Xanax will make my posts a bit messy, sorry.

Do you also agree that it's somewhat shady so many people adere to so many unproven psychotherapeutical approaches?

This irritates me, as I saw the effects it had on my brother. And after reading the long term effects and side effects, it's not a damn wonder so many would rather not be on medications.

IF there is a better method, and perhaps there is/ are through the various therapies and the mental training required, I'd go for that over any of the wonder pills. But I am really biased. I don't like anything messing with my system as it always makes me feel like crap.

Ibuprofen, and that's about it...some antibiotics when necessary, but anything else? *meh*

BUT....if I really had to? I might..but I will find another safer method and try everything else first.

I rather like my meat wagon as it is, and the gray matter is "normal" except for the odd bits but nothing that could harm anyone else or myself. Choice. So...yeah...hmmm..

Some psychologists have their issues, some have serious issues and you wouldn't want them around but they were intelligent enough to get a degree so many people think they're necessarily right because of that.

Once upon a time I visited a psychologist. She said: you irritate me because you don't listen to what I have to say. I listened all the time but in her humble opinion I didn't. She looked at me with scary eyes you only see in movies like "the exorcist". After a few sessions I said: now this is enough. She promised me not to call doctors without my permission. The third time she said: oh I called her anyway and she said you haven't been there in May. I have been there, I can even prove it. She told me: why are you lying? I paid and left. The next week she wrote me a letter: could we please plan one final session so you can tell me what I did wrong. I'll schedule you next wednesday at 6 PM. I was like: what the hell?
She was also German and had only lived here for a couple of years. Her Dutch was good enough to be a waiter but not good enough to talk about serious issues like mine.

For those having read my other topics: at the hospital where I was staying, I saw a psychologist every week. When I told her about the fact that the hospital traumatized me, she remained silent for about thirty seconds and then said: I understand it's hard but there are reasons why you are here and we're not gonna keep you longer than necessary.
On one hand it showed that the shrink is big boss.

Hmmm. I don't agree with inpiritus. I much rather try the meds approach than go through five years of psychological torture (psychotherapy) and most likely #######4 . I don't trust the psychotherapists and psychologists. Projection can be tough to spot without knowing more about the individual projecting. You're probably right. They could be projecting. Who knows?

My thing is I don't think I need psychotherapy number one, number two, I think it would just phuck my head up. Psychotherapy isn't always the best approach.

If I didn't like the way things were going, I wouldn't go back. Hell, I'd never go in the first place unless I was high as heck.

Do you really need this crap? Psychotherapy/therapy ? Why not just take meds and stay away from therapy?

On some serious sh*t, I have a freakin' alter who is more helpful, objective and insightful about me than any therapist I've ever met.

My illness is more stable than most whole psychologists.

I agree with this for the most part.

People who get into psychology tend to have problems themselves, which could be an asset but could also be be an outlet for their own need to dominate and control. I do think that there are well intentioned people in the field but good intentions can only go so far. But I also know that there are people who enter the field because they are opportunists who believe it's okay for them to push their own beliefs and agenda on those who are vulnerable. To wit - I know someone who is seeking a master's degree in psychology, to become a family therapist. Guess what? Her own marriage is screwed beyond all recognition. She's married to a manipulator that only cares for himself. Her own husband hates her and has thought about killing her. Tell me how someone who isn't in a healthy relationship herself can solve someone else's marriage problems, and I'll show you a unicorn that flies.