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-WHAT'S NEXT-???

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:44 am

What's next for human beings with serious mental illness??? A cure for mental illness, never happen, to much money being made off of YOUR suffering... Put everybody with serious mental illness in jail and that way YOU are out of sight and then out of mind, never happen, it cost to much money to house in jail all the people with serious mental illness... Etc. Etc. Etc...

The easy and cheap way to solve this problem is to make the drugs that people with serious mental illness take everyday to have deadly side effects, such as SUICIDE, passive and or violent.... Over 90% of human beings with serious mental illness think of SUICIDE everyday until they commit suicide of some kind to end their suffering...
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Re: -WHAT'S NEXT-???

Postby Riccola » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:44 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:What's next for human beings with serious mental illness??? A cure for mental illness, never happen, to much money being made off of YOUR suffering... Put everybody with serious mental illness in jail and that way YOU are out of sight and then out of mind, never happen, it cost to much money to house in jail all the people with serious mental illness... Etc. Etc. Etc...

The easy and cheap way to solve this problem is to make the drugs that people with serious mental illness take everyday to have deadly side effects, such as SUICIDE, passive and or violent.... Over 90% of human beings with serious mental illness think of SUICIDE everyday until they commit suicide of some kind to end their suffering...



You bring a sad reality to light, its horrific but true. Unless some monumental change takes place our prisons and streets will remain ware houses for the mentally ill while tax payers spend billions on managing these people who only decline further. Most of the drugs mentally ill take aren't even prescription drugs prescribed by psychiatrists, rather street drugs to self medicate. They either waste away to nothing (a passive suicide), commit actual suicide, or eventually end up in prison. Nobody listens to these people, the are used in every way and nobody is willing to pay for their treatment, even one as simple as regular outpatient psychotherapy. Its not until they act out and are then shoved in prison where nothing good comes. Prisons are geared to punish, but punishing a person who is much to ill to know right from wrong does nothing. Some are in prison over nothing more than drug offense, which is also very sad.


I think the shift has come from psych hospitals becoming notorious for abuse, notorious for milking insurance companies. So much so word has got around and no one wants to pay or seek treatment anymore. Some do indeed want treatment and look for it, but chances are unless the person is deemed insane by a court only after they have commit a crime they wont get any treatment.

All great points

To those who are not familiar with the crisis this is one article I think is good to read up on:

http://rt.com/usa/mental-illness-jail-hospital-281/
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Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:52 am

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:Over 90% of human beings with serious mental illness think of SUICIDE everyday until they commit suicide of some kind to end their suffering...


I was on youtube and saw a video of the abuse of the mentally ill in jails and prison that's just to nasty to even post.

It's like they keep them alive (suicide precautions) just to be able to keep torturing them, the "suicide precaution" itself was one of the tortures, it was just horrible.
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Re: -WHAT'S NEXT-???

Postby sixprime » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:12 pm

What's next is Lobotomy 2.0
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Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:55 pm

The mental health experts and professionals etc., were using LOBOTOMIES for almost fifty years. Now they use DRUGS to have almost the same affect as a LOBOTOMY, the future will have physical LOBOTOMY and or a DRUG LOBOTOMY... This is why SUICIDE can be a blessing, before YOU CURSE me out, think about all the options YOU have...
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Postby Riccola » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:32 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:Over 90% of human beings with serious mental illness think of SUICIDE everyday until they commit suicide of some kind to end their suffering...


I was on youtube and saw a video of the abuse of the mentally ill in jails and prison that's just to nasty to even post.

It's like they keep them alive (suicide precautions) just to be able to keep torturing them, the "suicide precaution" itself was one of the tortures, it was just horrible.



Its like some one somewhere wants them to be abused. Its so sick, evil, wrong yet goes on every day. I never understood that. Why is it these people are always a giant punching bag for abuse? I will never understand that, NEVER.
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Postby Riccola » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:33 pm

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:The mental health experts and professionals etc., were using LOBOTOMIES for almost fifty years. Now they use DRUGS to have almost the same affect as a LOBOTOMY, the future will have physical LOBOTOMY and or a DRUG LOBOTOMY... This is why SUICIDE can be a blessing, before YOU CURSE me out, think about all the options YOU have...


They just don't know how to help these people nor do they care. They see these people as defective from the start, so somehow disabling them to be more "manageable". Now they just recklessly drug them to the point they become to tired to do anything eventually destroying them physically. It has nothing to do to cure them or even treat them. Its to warehouse them for profit, and tranquilize them so they end up being like a piece of furniture requiring minimal attention. No one makes an effort to help them.

And they see that. They see they are in a world that abuses them to capitalize. A world that cant help them, doesn't hear them nor understands them. Your pain, your suffering, your problems becomes someone's home, car, someone's paycheck. In such a world the mentally ill reach a conclusion that the only way out is suicide, either immediate or gradually through substance abuse.

One of the notions that needs to change among, many, many, many is that mental illness is even a defect. Yes it has horrible symptoms, no doubt about it, but its respect, kindness and compassion that improve their condition not abuse. Give these people are psychiatrist that will listen, one who can think and a community where they feel valued just for existing and they will flourish.


Semi off topic but I thought this one was a good read:

http://www.innertapestry.org/articles/v ... lness.html
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Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 pm

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:The mental health experts and professionals etc., were using LOBOTOMIES for almost fifty years. Now they use DRUGS to have almost the same affect as a LOBOTOMY, the future will have physical LOBOTOMY and or a DRUG LOBOTOMY... This is why SUICIDE can be a blessing, before YOU CURSE me out, think about all the options YOU have...


I won't curse you out.

After the video I saw of what goes on behind the psychiatric locked doors where no one is looking, or ever looks SUICIDE sure could be a blessing. I was ashamed to be an American after seeing that video. My tax dollars being spent on torture and giving these sadists a nice little playground for themselves.

Here are some mild videos of behind locked doors 'treatment".

Homicide at Bridgewater State Hospital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxpf0OLk4qU

Families outraged over treatment of patients at Bridgewater State Hospital

http://www.wcvb.com/news/Families-outraged-over-treatment-of-patients-at-Bridgewater-State-Hospital/25885376
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Postby Riccola » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:30 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:The mental health experts and professionals etc., were using LOBOTOMIES for almost fifty years. Now they use DRUGS to have almost the same affect as a LOBOTOMY, the future will have physical LOBOTOMY and or a DRUG LOBOTOMY... This is why SUICIDE can be a blessing, before YOU CURSE me out, think about all the options YOU have...


I won't curse you out.

After the video I saw of what goes on behind the psychiatric locked doors where no one is looking, or ever looks SUICIDE sure could be a blessing. I was ashamed to be an American after seeing that video. My tax dollars being spent on torture and giving these sadists a nice little playground for themselves.

Here are some mild videos of behind locked doors 'treatment".

Homicide at Bridgewater State Hospital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxpf0OLk4qU

Families outraged over treatment of patients at Bridgewater State Hospital

http://www.wcvb.com/news/Families-outraged-over-treatment-of-patients-at-Bridgewater-State-Hospital/25885376



Massachusetts is notorious for abusing the mentally ill for decades. In fact there was even a lawsuit against the state years back. Forget the details but it was well known. Came out that abuse was actually common on their hospitals. I really don't understand it... then again its a system that knows they can get away with it.
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Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:01 am

Riccola wrote:Massachusetts is notorious for abusing the mentally ill for decades. In fact there was even a lawsuit against the state years back.


You mean this ?

1989 "Nightline" report about the Massachusetts facility that houses mentally ill people with the criminally insane. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/video/horrors-bridgewater-state-hospital-23129454

Riccola wrote:Came out that abuse was actually common on their hospitals. I really don't understand it... then again its a system that knows they can get away with it.


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