I think our efforts are really working

something I am onto is proving that we will win this , I have rought it to the attention of some pretty high up places and my girlfreind makes mince meat of the culprits enlightening the quacks so to speak to higher worlds, really targeting in on destroying what makes my own shrink tick, I think I am winning they had me beat for a long time..

Should I be getting optamistic that I am defeating them with the help of highly evolved gods of the universe that exist in the universe, the universe is onto those fools they won't get away with playing out lies and $#%^ there mentality was easy to dissolve I think its working some would want to go back to how they were before, I first came accross a place to take all the psychiatrists on the planet to and then higher they are set up in cages I have been letting my psychiatrist out but she stwill stays n her cage bbut took her for a ride so she knows life exists out there...she said she's put people away for this thats why its o hard for her to deal with, I think I got her lol time will tell or if I am ready for magic to work, I also submi9tted a compalint letter too so maybe thatw will get some tracktion....

Take down one psychiatrist take down them all I say, they are hard to identify astrally but my girlfriend makeds mi9nce meat of what Icouldn't do by myslef in opening them up to a new world...had one psychiatrist in a void for a while we were at the end of the tunnel...he respected me for it though my psychiatrist on the other hand is a mess and stupid as.

All of the above posts etc. etc. etc... prove beyond a doubt that -YOU- have to be insane to get involved with the mental health industry. Let's put it bluntly, if -YOU- did nothing, would -YOU- be better off overall ?

I am not sure our theories, efforts, or misfortunes when dealing with the mental health field will ever work well enough to change anything. They are still forcing 100,000 + people into facilities daily with zero concrete proof that these people are mentally unsafe.

This stuff should be considered alternative medicine and the government should stop wasting money funding it. Until those things happen we are not winning.

It seems to me that the public only gets behind change when something bad happens to a famous person. 10,000 average people can be abused and mistreated and no one cares. But if one movie star gets victimized then everyone demands change. I remember the AIDS epidemic in the 80s. It wasn't until Rock Hudson got it when people really got behind an effort to find a cure. And then poor poor Magic Johnson got it. Problem is that most quacks are smart enough not to butcher someone who is famous.

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Copy_Cat wrote:

Roger1234 wrote:No scam. These meds are Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and noripinephrine reuptake inhibitors.

"Total scam, but that's alright, I believed it for years too cause I never thought to question it."

"The chemical imbalance theory cannot be proven. It is not possible to measure serotonin in the brains of patients without dissecting them. "

The chemical imbalance theory can be proven. If you would think about it. I'll use Effexor as an example, because I'm on 300mg. of it. Effexor is a serotonin and norepinephrene (that's gotta be spelled wrong)reuptake inhibitor. Google if you don't know what that means. Now, if someone who is depressed and effexor helps, then it's quite obvious that the person has either a serotonin imbalance and/or a norepinephrene imbalance. There are also drugs that can create an imbalance of serotonin such as MDMA. The theory is not way out there at all. There are different types of depression. Not all types can be treated with drugs. In fact it looks as though most depressions cannot be treated by drugs; either that or some people are treatment resistant.

Roger1234 wrote:
The chemical imbalance theory can be proven. If you would think about it. I'll use Effexor as an example, because I'm on 300mg. of it. Effexor is a serotonin and norepinephrene (that's gotta be spelled wrong)reuptake inhibitor. Google if you don't know what that means. Now, if someone who is depressed and effexor helps, then it's quite obvious that the person has either a serotonin imbalance and/or a norepinephrene imbalance. There are also drugs that can create an imbalance of serotonin such as MDMA. The theory is not way out there at all. There are different types of depression. Not all types can be treated with drugs. In fact it looks as though most depressions cannot be treated by drugs; either that or some people are treatment resistant.

That's not proof. Scientific proof is far more rigorous than that. The kind of reasoning you are espousing is the kind that used to be used to show that comets caused earthquakes.

The American Psychiatric Press Textbook of Clinical Psychiatry addresses serotonin deficiency as an unconfirmed hypothesis

This is from the official Effexor website

EFFEXOR XR is believed to treat depression and certain types of anxiety symptoms by affecting the levels of two naturally occurring chemicals in the brain—serotonin and norepinephrine.

They do not officially know how these chemicals work. They assume. (emphasis added)
https://www.effexorxr.com/about-effexor-xr.aspx

Cheze2 wrote:This is from the official Effexor website

EFFEXOR XR is believed to treat depression and certain types of anxiety symptoms by affecting the levels of two naturally occurring chemicals in the brain—serotonin and norepinephrine.

They do not officially know how these chemicals work. They assume. (emphasis added)
https://www.effexorxr.com/about-effexor-xr.aspx

Right. I looked up some studies and it looks like Effexor might be only 10% better than a placebo. Plus long term use of a brain altering chemical might make things worse in the long run. I have always been very wary of mind altering chemicals.

A growing body of research supports the hypothesis that antidepressants worsen the chronicity, if not severity, of depressive features in many subjects. Antidepressant therapy is often associated with the poorest outcomes. In a large, retrospective study in the Netherlands of more than 12,000 patients, antidepressant exposure was associated with the worst long term results. 72-79% of the patients who relapsed received antidepressants during their initial episode of depression. In contrast, only one of the patients who did not relapse received no antidepressants during or following the initial episode. (Weel-Baumgarten 2000)

http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants

My personal stance is that it's good to be wary and to be as informed as possible if you choose to take medications. I think it's a very personal choice for each individual. I'm currently finding benefit from mine, but I am well aware of the risks and the propaganda behind them.

Interesting article. I like that he cited actual evidence based studies.

"Total scam, but that's alright, I believed it for years too cause I never thought to question it."

"The chemical imbalance theory cannot be proven. It is not possible to measure serotonin in the brains of patients without dissecting them. "

The chemical imbalance theory can be proven. If you would think about it. I'll use Effexor as an example, because I'm on 300mg. of it. Effexor is a serotonin and norepinephrene (that's gotta be spelled wrong)reuptake inhibitor. Google if you don't know what that means. Now, if someone who is depressed and effexor helps, then it's quite obvious that the person has either a serotonin imbalance and/or a norepinephrene imbalance. There are also drugs that can create an imbalance of serotonin such as MDMA. The theory is not way out there at all. There are different types of depression. Not all types can be treated with drugs. In fact it looks as though most depressions cannot be treated by drugs; either that or some people are treatment resistant.[/quote]

[mod edit] So if someone who is depressed and weed helps, then it's quite obvious that person has a thc imbalance?